Might Katrina have been caused by a WMD?!

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Might Katrina have been caused by a WMD?!

Postby dana » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:14 pm

... has it been a test run? I've just come across this information:<br><br>109th Congress, S. 517: A bill to establish a <a href="http://tinyurl.com/as9nw"><strong>Weather Modification Operations and Research Board</strong>/<a>, and for other purposes, was introduced March 3, 2005, by Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas). The text of the bill, with the resulting act to be cited as the Weather Modification Research and Technology Transfer Authorization Act of 2005, was read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. <strong>The bill states that the act is to take effect October 1, 2005.</strong><br><br>Could the US military simply have jumped the gun with an August experiment? Or has a foreign power fired a shot across our bow?!<br><br>? ? ? ! ! !<br><br><br>I can't vouch for the validity of 'Wing TV' as a source, but there's <a href="http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/katrina.html"><strong>this</strong></a>, too.<br><br>. <p></p><i></i>
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sorry about the links ...

Postby dana » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:31 pm

Weather Modification Operations and Research Board<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://tinyurl.com/as9nw">tinyurl.com/as9nw</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Katrina: Another Deliberate 9-11?<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://69.28.73.17/thornarticles/katrina.html">69.28.73.17/thornarticles/katrina.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: sorry about the links ...

Postby dbeach » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:40 pm

hi dana<br><br>russkis had the technology in the 1970s and this was a HAARPICAINE or SCALAR <br><br>Who launched it?<br><br>Why would bush disturb his war effort oil supplies and hit New O??<br><br>IMHO <p></p><i></i>
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Re: sorry about the links ...

Postby Anonymous » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:46 pm

"Why would bush disturb his war effort oil supplies and hit New O??" -- dbeach<br><br>"Russian journalist Sorcha Faal writes: Russian Military Analysts arereporting today that a 'significant' portion of the US Navy Armada thathad been heading towards their country's devastated southern regionshave turned towards South America".<br><br>Venezuela's Electronic News<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=45817">www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=45817</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: sorry about the links ...

Postby dana » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:08 pm

hi dbeach<br><br>I posted the question because I hoped to learn what others might have to say, here. I was rattled by idea that such legislation should be on the slate, in the first place [such weaponry was outlawed in 1976]; I was struck, also, by the timing of the bill's publication in relation to the storm. <br><br>Let me throw out a few thoughts, then.<br><br>... If a Weather Modification Operations bill is about to be enacted Oct 1; ie, the technology made public and accorded legitimacy, I could well imagine a pre-emptive "demonstration" on the part of a foreign power. By way of warning [ we've been behaving so badly, I'm almost surprised we haven't been "warned" already ], hitting us where it hurts most: a strategic port. If Russia were the culprit, I think it'd be safe to assume that the US would be vvvery careful how it responded and would keep the matter well under wraps. In addition, a "hint" of the sort, precluding any recognition of it, could not be used as a pretext for attacking Iran. <br><br>The delay in FEMA's reaction could then, potentially, be explained by a paralysis in the upper echelons, as they waited to see whether more might not be on the way, concerned as the Admin has said it is about simultanous acts. <br><br>So much for the shot across the bow. <br><br>As for reasoning behind a possible false flag operation, involving a strategic port, the more I think about it, it's difficult to see a solid motive. Perhaps damage to the infrastructure was underestimated [ must be difficult to "dose" a hurricane ... ]. Perhaps the benefits of shocking the bejeezus out the entire nation and experimenting with population management outweighed the disadvantages of the damage, confident that repairs could be made [ subcontracted ] quickly ... <br><br>These are flimsy pretexts, though, I grant you. <br><br>Thank you, dbeach, I guess we can consider that aspect debunked [ sigh of relief ].<br><br>The first theory could stand, though.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: sorry about the links ...

Postby dbeach » Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:09 am

"Why would bush disturb his war effort oil supplies and hit New O??'<br><br>OK so Who benefited? Russia cuz now iran attack is on hold..Somaybe russia hits NewO. and the stumbling bush response is real BUT bush knows that Martial Law has been handed to him and now thhe fast minds behind bush think its party time..call hallbutton..get the locals involved . Beachfront property..endless tax dollars come on??<br>Spinning away<br><br><br>martial law will now condition sheeple to troops and police having more power . <p></p><i></i>
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Re: sorry about the links ...

Postby dana » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:24 am

In *any* case, dbeach, the opportunities that have come BushCo's way are "perfect", falling together neatly for the vilest of exploitation. It is of course BushCo & Cronies who are set to benefit first and foremost, on both political and financial levels.<br><br>You're undoubtedly right, if what you're suggesting, obliquely, is that we don't need to contemplate an extra layer of hypothetical dastardliness, as matters stand; we have plenty on our hands as it is. Yet given that we've been made to understand that our gov't is capable of actions that go well beyond our wildest imaginations, I believe it is important to raise and to discuss even the most way-out of scenarios that may come to mind.<br><br>But short of new evidence to support the question I brought up, the subject may not warrant further discussion.<br><br><br><br>PS: I hadn't seen Anonymous' reference to Venezuela before posting my last comment. -- Ak. .... Let's hope that international opinion will be effective in helping us step back from the brink ...<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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U.S. Meteorologist Says Russian Inventors Caused Hurricane

Postby anonymous » Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:45 pm

"A meteorologist in Pocatello, Idaho, claims Japanese gangsters known as the Yakuza used KGB inventions to cause Hurricane Katrina, WirelessFlash reported Thursday.<br><br>"Scott Stevens says after looking at NASA satellite photos of the hurricane, he’s is convinced it was caused by electromagnetic generators from ground-based microwave transmitters.<br><br>“There is absolutely zero chance that this is natural, zero, ”Village voice quoted Stevens as saying after Katrina’s landfall, pointing out suspiciously rectilinear shapes in the satellite-photoed hurricane clouds. <br><br>"The generators emit a soundwave between three and 30 megahertz and Stevens claims the Russians invented the storm-creating technology back in 1976 and sold it to others in the late 1980s. <br><br>"Stevens says the clouds formed by the generators are different from normal clouds and are able to appear out of nowhere and says Katrina had many rotation points that are unusual for hurricanes. <br><br>"At least 10 nations and organizations possess the technology, but Stevens suspects the Japanese Yakuza created Katrina in order to make a fortune in the futures market and to get even with the U.S. for the 1945 bombing of Hiroshima. <br>        <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/09/08/kgbkatrina.shtml">www.mosnews.com/news/2005...rina.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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well there ya have it folks

Postby rain » Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:07 pm

we've been told who can't do it, but a couple of guys with transistor radios can.<br><br>well I feel stupid. should have seen it coming.<br><br>"You wont know who to trust"<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: pickin' the fruit

Postby hanshan » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:08 pm

<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Create and or manage an event of unimaginable horror, so that you can then assume the leading role of savior.<br>----------------------<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.stadtfestwien.at/2004/upload/files/StrangeFruit1_presse.jpg" target="top">Haldane's Law</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br>The Universe is not only queerer than we imagine;<br>it is queerer than we CAN imagine.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Among the gnostics, gnosis was first and foremost a matter of self acquaintance which was the goal of enlightenment. Later, Valentinius, more usually called Valentinus, taught that gnosis was the privileged <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosis" target="top">"knowledge of the heart"</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> or "insight" about the spiritual nature of the cosmos, that brought about salvation to the pneumatics - people who believed they could achieve this insight.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:xx-small;">....</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: U.S. Meteorologist Says Russian Inventors Caused etc

Postby dana » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:16 pm

Anonymous, ... your reference remains in the domain of "he says, she claims xyz ...". I think we need to do better than that [ says she, thinking of herself, tooooo ]. <br><br>The Mosnews article's closing remark: "get[ting] even with the U.S. for the 1945 bombing of Hiroshima". Hmm. Jeez. I smell a rat. <br><br>This is Open Season for special-interest scenari of all sorts, foreign and domestic. Because I am not personally in a position to provide information from sources for which I can vouch with full confidence, I'll hand the mic over to dbeach, anonymice and others to publish and expand on the knowledge they seem to possess.<br><br>A propos 'knowledge', the other day I asked a personal friend, a geophysicist, editor at a renowned scientific publication, whether he thought the natural dynamics of tectonic plates could be "nudged" so as to produce a timely tsunami, for ex. He rolled his eyes skyward and said: 'Loada shit'. ... But then went on to add that, if the plates were on the verge of slipping anyway, the process *could* be sped up by a matter of weeks, perhaps months. On the other hand, he's no intelligence expert; he's devoted to humanitarian science and the evaluation of civil scientific inquiry.<br><br>Meanwhile, the spooks aren't about to paint a picture for us. <br><br>What next, then.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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PS

Postby dana » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:31 pm

... more importantly with what means are we to investigate covert science and respond to eventual threats to humanity. <p></p><i></i>
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re: w/ what means?

Postby hanshan » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:39 pm

<br><br><br>great question/no clue<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://lvo.wr.usgs.gov/" target="top">Caldera</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.geo.cornell.edu/geology/GalapagosWWW/Genovesa.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.alanpalmer.org.uk/images/caldera.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:blue;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:xx-small;">....</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Patent in 87; 18 years of R&D

Postby spyvsspy » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:46 pm

Patent in 1987. Eastland and his work have been the basis for this development. After 18 years of R&D and lots of black op money, I'm sure progress has been made. Project still in existence, recently upgraded to a 1 gigawatt of power output. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, something is up with the HAARP, Eastland, Tesla nexus. <br><br>Eastland is the main scientist behing HAARP. Here is an excerpt from his patent.<br><br>patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/n.../4,686,605<br><br><br><br>This invention has a phenomenal variety of possible ramifications and potential future developments. As alluded to earlier, missile or aircraft destruction, deflection, or confusion could result, particularly when relativistic particles are employed. Also, large regions of the atmosphere could be lifted to an unexpectedly high altitude so that missiles encounter unexpected and unplanned drag forces with resultant destruction or deflection of same. Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns or altering solar absorption patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device. Also as alluded to earlier, molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that positive environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence. For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc. concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased. Similarly, environmental enhancement could be achieved by causing the breakup of various chemical entities such as carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrous oxides, and the like. Transportation of entities can also be realized when advantage is taken of the drag effects caused by regions of the atmosphere moving up along diverging field lines. Small micron sized particles can be then transported, and, under certain circumstances and with the availability of sufficient energy, larger particles or objects could be similarly affected. Particles with desired characteristics such as tackiness, reflectivity, absorptivity, etc., can be transported for specific purposes or effects. For example, a plume of tacky particles could be established to increase the drag on a missile or satellite passing therethrough. Even plumes of plasma having substantially less charged particle density than described above will produce drag effects on missiles which will affect a lightweight (dummy) missile in a manner substantially different than a heavy (live) missile and this affect can be used to distinguish between the two types of missiles. A moving plume could also serve as a means for supplying a space station or for focusing vast amount of sunlight on selected portions of the earth. Surveys of global scope could also be realized because the earth's natural magnetic field could be significantly altered in a controlled manner by plasma beta effects resulting in, for example, improved magnetotelluric surveys. Electromagnetic pulse defenses are also possible. The earth's magnetic field could be decreased or disrupted at appropriate altitudes to modify or eliminate the magnetic field in high Compton electron generation (e.g., from high altitude nuclear bursts) regions. High intensity, well controlled electrical fields can be provided in selected locations for various purposes. For example, the plasma sheath surrounding a missile or satellite could be used as a trigger for activating such a high intensity field to destroy the missile or satellite. Further, irregularities can be created in the ionosphere which will interfere with the normal operation of various types of radar, e.g., synthetic aperture radar. The present invention can also be used to create artificial belts of trapped particles which in turn can be studied to determine the stability of such parties. Still further, plumes in accordance with the present invention can be formed to simulate and/or perform the same functions as performed by the detonation of a "heave" type nuclear device without actually having to detonate such a device. Thus it can be seen that the ramifications are numerous, far-reaching, and exceedingly varied in usefulness.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: who benefits?

Postby spyvsspy » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:59 pm

Not sure who did it. Could be Bush, could be Putin, or china. We're not playing well with others right now. Or maybe a foreign country nudged it, so it wouldn't hit NO and tried to save the city.<br><br>In any case, Bush and company will stand to make obscene profits on corporate welfare used to rebuild NO without all of the useless eaters. Republican urban renewal. The high level dems are also involved and know enough about what is going on. They are the "good" cop vs the repuke "bad" cop. In anycase, profit will be made, and NO will be rebuilt and sanitized. Expect to see some Pat Robertson memorials etc...<br><br>Also got rid of useless eaters, drain on society. The survivors are rounded up and controlled. Perfect test cases for FEMA. Waiting for the first FEMA camp riots, or escapees (provacteurs) that will be used to demonize these people. Maybe gps chipping is the solution to keep tabs on these guys. Enough incidents in the news and the public will demand chipping for detainees. First they came for the ... <p></p><i></i>
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