LSU hurricane expert on CNN just estimated 100,000 drowned

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LSU hurricane expert on CNN just estimated 100,000 drowned

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:55 pm

OK <br>I'll repost it<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4530407&mesg_id=4530407">www.democraticunderground...id=4530407</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 8/31/05 3:53 pm<br></i>
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Re: LSU hurricane expert on CNN estimate 100,000 drowned

Postby Dreams End » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:30 pm

Watching the same reports.<br><br>This guy Cafferty asked for feedback on the question: what to do with looters. I wrote in and asked why CNN was so obsessed with looting from businesses that had been totally destroyed...especially since a lot of that looting is of food, clothing and other necessities.<br><br>I also said "please put people ahead of property." Meserve used that exact phrase about 10 minutes later. Maybe a fluke since she obviously couldn't have read that email directly and I admit it wasn't the most original alliteration.<br><br>I also asked if psyops was still working at CNN, given how they keep hitting this looting theme over and over again. Naturally, I figured my email would not get read.<br><br>Here's the worst part: there's still NO ONE dropping drinking water into these areas. Right now FOX NEWS...that's right FOX, has been on the air (their main anchor...good looking but kinda creepy guy...don't know his name) PLEADING with the police, come to exit 235 on hwy 10. There are thousands who don't know where to go. He shot down a level below to a woman with a child who looked just about dead from heat exhaustion and dehydration. He talked directly to someone from the state police and PLEADED with her to send someone down. She simply did not even acknowledge his plea...just said "we're busing people out." Wouldn't tell him where people were to go. Unbelievable. <br><br>So FOX is not obsessing about looting, which is a natural, predictable, and absent violence COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT PART OF THE DISASTER, while CNN continues to harp on it. One reporter even said "looters are causing 'chaos'." No, that would be HURRICANE KATRINA.<br><br>I actually asked this Cafferty dude what they were doing with this looting obsession...trying to justify shoot to kill curfews? trying to downplay the humanity of those left behind? I don't know. It looks like they are backing off that a bit as I think Cafferty's emails went against their theme. He did read one where a viewer said "turn Superdome into a jail." Unbelievable.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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computer-model estimate

Postby Starman » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:41 pm

Thanks for the link -- Among the comments, re: the immaculate idiocy of the World's Worst Reporter, Blitzer <br>-- what a fucking pathetic excuse for a 'news' reporter <br>-- he didn't ask for a clarification. I take it it was an estimate for those actoss the whole affected area of flooding and storm-surge destruction -- utterly appalling. God I hope it isn't true, but realistically, it might be higher, especially with consequences in the days to weeks to come with spread of disease.<br><br>Catch the bit where CNNs Blitzer was talking with a policeman who reported the downtown Bourbon and Canal clothing-store fire, Blizer was asking questions that he knew more about because Blitzer was in much-better news-communication, such as re: the levee situation. The policeman didn't even have radio-contact with his dept! I mean, how stupid is THAT? I almost think FEMA should commandeer news-resources and use them to coordinate communication. I mean, don't the police have independant-powered radios?<br><br>Blitzer seems to want to push the 'looting' situation, when the far more immediate problem, as everyone gently tries to remind him, is the human safety issue with needs and disease. What a fuckin' idiot.<br><br>I began thinking yesterday that much of the damaged region is reminescent of bombed-Iraq, with people -- perhaps a couple million or more -- living without running water and electricity and fuel and fresh-food. The 'Gulf war' vs the 'Gulf storm' -- do you think perhaps SOME people might reflect on the hardship US policies have caused the people in Iraq, now that they're facing some similiar issues re: repair of horribly-damaged critical infrastructure -- although without the added chaos of terrorism and a shooting-war? Innocents all, who do the most suffering.<br><br>Terrible.<br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 10,000 additional National Guard to augment security

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:59 pm

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Re:Our Nation Is In Great Danger

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:10 pm

from CrackpotAmerica<br><br>Our Nation Is In Great Danger <br><br> In the wake of this disaster, we are all bearing witness to the competence of our nation’s institutional response. I am afraid that this response is less helpful than it is indicative of the gross incompetence and arrogance of our President’s agenda. Further, those private institutions that have received great benefit over the past six years are serving to remove their facade of charity and compassion by their meager offerings to this devastated landscape.<br><br>The immense consequence of the President’s quest to cut funding to FEMA coupled with his complete disregard for any tangible plan for emergency preparedness will now be experienced by our entire nation. Yet, there is no mention of it thus far in the mainstream.<br><br>The President in his great narcissism has not walked a single yard of this broken soil since the storm has passed. As people scrambled upward in their homes to save their very lives, the President opted to enjoy a sliver of sweetly frosted cake on a sunny tarmac and attend a town hall meeting to discuss matters of no relevance to the immediate crisis. <br><br>While the Coast Guard worked to chop holes out of roofs to save men and women in their potential last moments, the President opted to commemorate Japan’s surrender, strumming a guitar with a boyish posture.<br><br>His only attempt to console a wounded region was to credit himself for offering federal relief and a few drops of oil, which would have been released had he drowned in an attic himself. <br><br>His benefactors, the huge companies that have been granted billions of dollars in tax relief, have begun responding to this tragedy by offering the equivalent of pocket lint to the effort. It seems that billions upon billions of dollars in annual revenue only merit an average of $1 million in relief from companies such as Wal-Mart, GM, and various oil companies, a stark reflection of the horrid decadence of all who have benefited from the President and his contempt for the citizens of this nation.<br><br>Many of our representatives will hold their tongues about the deplorable state of our nation as a result of the incompetence, distain, and complete separation from reality the President and his constituency has shown. However, I have great hope that at the very least, the greater nation and in its vast diversity will at last face the reality of what this despicable administration has done to us all.<br><br>It is difficult for the typical American to imagine that our nation can be so devastated that things such as revolt, violence and even revolution could reach their doorstep. I believe that a huge component of our national culture is a certain sense of insulation from the horrific chaos we witness around the globe and in the third world. But here we are, on the brink.<br><br>Be warned.<br><br>Be warned that the immediate future for all of us will be difficult. Be warned that the system of control established by the President will be thrust upon us with great intensity; not for the purpose of stabilizing the unrest of our nation; but for the sake of maintaining the fruits of his sinister actions thus far.<br><br>It will not be discussed over the next few weeks, but a national crisis is coming. As a direct result of the actions of the great narcissist, we will all be subjected to the ramifications in his place. <br><br>There will be national fuel shortages. There will be acts of violence and desperation as the availability of certain “luxuries” is taken away from us. There will be martial law. There will be Martial law for no legitimate reason other than keeping the voice of America silent. There will be massive layoffs.<br><br>There will be hopelessness.<br><br>The President does not have the integrity to persuade the American people to make personal sacrifices to serve the greater good. His constituents know this. And so, he will try to control all of us from above, choosing who must sacrifice and who may not. Although he has no voice, he has power and will use it covertly to suit his whims.<br><br>If there was ever a time for us to get up and fight to save our nation, that time is now.<br><br>First, I urge all of you to look around your homes and scrounge up any amount of loose money, clothing, and essentials and donate them. Go to your local Red Cross or the Salvation Army with your offerings. While you are there, please give blood if you have the ability. Do whatever you can to help. Every penny, every blanket, every spare room that can hold someone counts. I am not wealthy either, but I am going to do what I can.<br><br>Secondly, as the situation improves for the people of the south, please do whatever you can to send the message to your government that you demand the removal of this President and his administration. It is time that he suffers an inkling of the consequence for his arrogance. <br><br>I fear that if he remains in office, our nation will not have the opportunity to heal itself in our lifetime, if ever. Whatever you feel about these words, please do not ignore the logical conclusions we can draw from this cancer on our nation. For, we are beginning to witness them at this very moment.<br><br> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x22396">www.democraticunderground...=106x22396</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: BUSH'S PLAN FOR PEACE IS THE PEACE OF THE COMMON GRAVE

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:15 pm

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Re: BUSH'S PLAN FOR PEACE IS THE PEACE OF THE COMMON GRAVE

Postby heath7 » Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:02 pm

Oh God! I just heard the president say that the infrastructure is broken, and we must fix it. I could've sworn I've heard that from him before. Hopefully he is more sincere this go round. <p></p><i></i>
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"He's the son of a Baaaaaad man"

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:38 pm

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The Gulf hasn't been right for a while....

Postby Fearless » Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:23 pm

Remember the huge marine life die-off not long ago?<br><br>The ridiculously high 93 degree temp of the Gulf surface?<br><br>Can HAARP be used to heat large bodies of water, enabling the formation of super-storms?<br><br>I have questions.<br><br>Why do I have the same emotions today that I felt after I realized 9/11 was an inside job? Yet another psyop?<br><br>Record gas prices? Cui bono?<br><br>I saw this theory on another board. It gave me the chills. Maybe I just need more sleep. It just couldn't be possible. Could it? <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Gulf hasn't been right for a while....

Postby Seventhsonjr » Wed Aug 31, 2005 9:48 pm

What we need now is a war on the terror of global warming.<br><br>The terrorists are the corporations and the financial institutions which promote the pollution of our globe.<br><br> The people who support it, the dupes and simps and lemmings in their suv's and humvees, the flag waving fascists, the false Christians and evil supporters of death like Pat Robertson, the antiChrist follower, the Republicans and Dems alikew who failed to rise against the global terrorism of the corporate "infrastructure which made this sheol occur --- all of these are responsible for this Holocaust and the Holocausts, the Shoahs, the whirlwinds to come.<br><br>We MUST start saying it over and over and over:<br><br>WE are to blame for this.<br><br>WE are to blame for this.<br><br>WE are to blame for this.<br><br>Because we did not resist sufficiently the coup d'etats which have stolen our nation. From JFK to RFK to Reagan's assassination rendering him ineffective in the sights of the BFEE operative and Bush family friend, to MLK, Malcolm, Allende and Che.<br><br>This is OUR legacy as a Nation. Necrophilism. Hate. Greed. Denial. Repression. Oppression.<br><br>We sat idly by and watched it all on television until the howling winds and toxic floods were up to our throats and our children were drowning in their beds and suffocating in our yards and playgrounds.<br><br>WE made this.<br><br>Americans made this.<br><br>You and I made this happen by our complacency and negligence.<br><br><br>Don't blame Bush.<br><br>We LET Bush do this.<br><br>Blame US.<br><br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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I admit it

Postby Fearless » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:27 pm

I was in denial for a long, long time. I didn't want to believe it. Our government would never lie to us!<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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We are to blame for this...

Postby darkbeforedawn » Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:44 pm

Seventh, I am sorry, but you are now just saying what the elites hope we all feel: that we are in some bizarre way deserving of their abuse and victimization. Blaming ourselves is not productive. Vowing to change is. I admit to being a victim of their lies, of the culture television has created, of a society where everyone is unhappy and constantly trying to feel the void with "things"...I do not admit to causing it. I would rather it had been otherwise. Now that I perceive the horrible nature of this enterprise, I want to change it, but I still am not to blame. <p></p><i></i>
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word

Postby human » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:31 am

hey seventhson... i agree with you this time....<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>perhaps you should add to your mantra.... "And WE can change this".....<br><br>maybe a bit more complete....<br><br><br>one<br>human? <p></p><i></i>
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words

Postby albion » Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:10 am

perhaps 'responsible' is better than 'blame.' we are <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>responsible </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->for this. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: words

Postby Dreams End » Thu Sep 01, 2005 3:25 am

The LSU expert was interviewed again...this time on Larry King. He didn't say exactly the same thing but King left what he did say uncommented upon...actually, switched off of him rather quickly.<br><br>He said: 80 percent left before the storm. 250,000 or so remain. 20 - 30,000 in shelters plus a couple thousand rescued leaves a LOT of missing people. <br><br>I don't know where the 80 percent number comes from. This expert was quoting city or state officials and simply taking them at their word. <p></p><i></i>
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