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BBC News site on New Orleans....

Postby gaj86 » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:10 pm

Strangeness. My dad reckons that there were tons of articles about NO this lunchtime, but when he went to show me now, there's nothing there at all... I can't find anything anyway, not even under "world" ! Just thought I'd say... <br><br>Cover-up, anyone?<br><br>www.bbc.co.uk/news <p></p><i></i>
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Re: BBC News site on New Orleans....

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:18 pm

It was on the front page this morning when I last checked the BBC and it has been there for the whole week...<br><br>For some reason they've moved it from the front page - guess the UK is losing some interest. It is still on the Americas page ( <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/default.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...efault.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ) and you have the Katrina special page ( <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/americas/2005/hurricane_katrina/default.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_de...efault.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> ) <p></p><i></i>
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BBC Coverage - Katrina

Postby Byrne » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:34 pm

Yep, I checked the BBC New website earlier today & there was an article that was headlined something along the lines that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>...there was NO major risk of disease associated with any contact with the toxic water.... </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> I remember at the time that this didn't sit well with the headlines I watched on BBC Breakfast TV this morning, stating that the authorities were now moving in to evict any remaining residents who had stayed.<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The TV clip showed gangs of Police/army battering down residents doors!!</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Sure enough, the article on the BBC News website stating the low risk of disease etc. has now gone........... <p></p><i></i>
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Yes - the f#cking article has been wiped!

Postby Bismillah » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:39 pm

This is incredible - I have never known anything like it in five years of reading BBC news online. I've sent off a letter of complaint and I'd advise others to do likewise. They can't be allowed to get away with this.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint.shtml">www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/...aint.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The alleged "deadly toxic soup" was the whole justification given for the evacuation of the so-called "holdouts". <br><br>See also:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.leninology.blogspot.com/">www.leninology.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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map of pre declared disaster areas

Postby somebody » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:41 pm

you've got to see this! hmmm, I bet this will tell us a lot. I don't know just what yet, but it will be something. We can all bet on it.<br><br>Don't know how to copy the pic of map, maybe someone can help me out here. But here's the link, you'll have to scroll down a bit. thanks<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/">www.whatreallyhappened.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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p.s. loading slow

Postby somebody » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:47 pm

the page is loading pretty slow, they must be getting a lot of traffic. even americablog is linking them. a lot of different blogs are coming together getting the truth out. before, i would have never dreamed of mentioning whatreallyhappened.com to anyone on americablog, yet i read them both. hey, the truth is the truth no matter where it comes from. hope not too off topic for this thread. <p></p><i></i>
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No panic. The report is still there...

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:49 pm

The BBC only shows a selection of the reports on the pages. If the report is more than a day old it tends to disappear in the archives. So the only thing which has happened is that it was archived and you can find it by searching for it.<br><br>Here it is:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Evacuation 'not disease driven'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>The evacuation of survivors from storm stricken New Orleans is not justified by the risk of disease from stagnant water, say health experts.<br><br>They say the threat of outbreaks of diseases such as cholera from the water is low. <br><br>However, the poor living conditions and difficulty in getting medical care to any who fall sick are reason enough for people to be moved from the area. <br><br>The city's mayor ordered the forced evacuation of the 5,000- 10,000 residents thought still to be living in New Orleans despite the lasting effects of Hurricane Katrina. <br><br>(...)<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Allaying fears</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>However Dr Jean Luc Poncelet, head of the World Health Organization's emergency preparedness and disaster relief programme in the US, stressed that the risk of serious disease was still relatively low. <br><br>(...)<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4223290.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4223290.stm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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oh yea?

Postby somebody » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:53 pm

Looking for the link:<br><br>"NORMALLY, ONE wouldn't expect a small environmental magazine in Canada to discover a shocking reality of the New Orleans hurricane disaster that seems to have escaped notice.<br><br>It seems that a toxic landfill site on which housing was built in central New Orleans is now under floodwaters with the potential to pollute and contaminate portions of the Gulf Coast.<br><br>Despite the overwhelming international coverage of Hurricane Katrina's lethal attack on southern U.S. states, it is the current issue of Solid Waste & Recycling magazine that unearthed an environmental hazard that has the potential of being an underwater Love Canal.<br><br>CNN and Fox News have now been alerted.<br><br>Something called the Agriculture Street Landfill (ASL) is located on a 95-acre site in central New Orleans.<br><br>It is registered as a "Superfund site" (whatever that is) on the federal government's national priorities list of highly contaminated sites requiring cleanup and containment. But nothing has been done.<br><br>Instead of removing the mass of toxic waste 50 years ago, the site was covered with clean soil and houses and a school were built on top of it.<br><br>Not only was municipal garbage dumped there, but for decades industrial wastes from service stations, manufacturers, and chemical facilities were put there.<br><br>In the 1940s and 1950s, the site was routinely sprayed with DDT, but in 1962 some 229,300 cubic metres of excess fill was removed because subsurface toxic fires kept erupting (and got the site known as "Dante's Inferno").<br><br>According to the editor of Hazardous Waste magazine, the ASL site -- now under water -- will almost inevitably leach toxic effluent into the floodwaters, with the potential of inflicting unpredictable damage on the coast, and those that live there -- a possible environmental catastrophe." <p></p><i></i>
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Evacuation 'not disease driven'

Postby Byrne » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:55 pm

Yep DrDebugDU, that was the article....<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Evacuation 'not disease driven'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>How does that sit with the forced evacuation of residents?! The images on the BBC TV this morning were of squads of men dressed in black riot gear, ramming down residents doors.<br><br>Hardly a.... <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>'Is anyone in there, we're here to help you, approach??</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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link

Postby somebody » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:58 pm

here's the link to torontosun.com<br>buried TOXIC WASTE DUMP. don't quite get where it is.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.torontosun.com/News/Columnists/Worthington_Peter/2005/09/05/1202432.html">www.torontosun.com/News/C...02432.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Evacuation 'not disease driven'

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:01 pm

The BBC put it on the Health page and not on the Katrina page.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>How does that sit with the forced evacuation of residents?! The images on the BBC TV this morning were of squads of men dressed in black riot gear, ramming down residents doors.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well the snipers were fake as well and so was the shooting at the helicopter etc. They want to create a panic. It's the politics of fear. You make people afraid and then you can get away with stuff like that. They have been doing it for years and it is the same plan executed over and over again.<br><br>Problem - Reaction - Solution<br><br>First you create an artifical problem<br>Then you wait for the negative reaction from the people demanding that something is done<br>And the last point is offering the solution to the non-existing problem. <p></p><i></i>
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location of superfund site in NO

Postby somebody » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:06 pm

"For those who care, or know New Orleans, the contaminated ASL is bounded on the north by Higgins Blvd. and the south and west by a railroad right-of-way. The eastern boundary is Clouet St. to Press and Montegut Sts.<br><br>That means nothing to me, but it is roughly midway between Lake Pontchartrain and the New Orleans business district and the French Quarter. "<br><br>And that are is under 3 ft. of water according to the article. Sounds horribly dangerous to me. And like maybe some railway owners are going to get a huge bailout possibly from their friends in very high places. All according to plan. It's always all about money and disregard for any human life.... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: location of superfund site in NO

Postby gaj86 » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:24 pm

I read the problem-reaction-solution thing on David Icke's website last night, although we've discuss it in Sociology too <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>But I'm a little confused now... what is the solution they're trying to offer here? I mean, what did they want to introduce so badly that they caused all this for?? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: location of superfund site in NO

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:39 pm

The possible solutions:<br><br>1. A test case for martial law<br>2. Opportunity to strengthen Homeland Security and make it an even bigger apparatus with even more power<br>3. Get rid off Posse Commitatus which prevents military from domestic law enforcement<br>4. Activate Patriot Act<br><br>Another very important thing is of course money. The big money is made during disasters and not during periods of calm and peace. During disasters the economy shrinks which means that money will be more concentrated in fewer hands. You already see that in the "Who benefits" thread that the usual suspects like Halliburton, Blackwater, Fluor etc. are scoring the big contracts. <br><br>The oil threads discuss the possible impacts on the oil industry which has already closed 420,000 (Shell) (1) + 563,000 (the other companies (2) ) of daily barrels of crude oil production. This meant that they could claim a shortage of 1,083,000 daily barrels and thus drive the price up. Next 60,000,000 barrels were released internationally (by the same companies) and that lowered the price and drove the stockmarkets up even though none of that oil could possible have arrived in the US yet, so there was never a shortage to begin with.<br><br><br>Sources:<br>(1) <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BF7E49D16%2D0EF9%2D4D05%2D89DF%2D6020DC6793BE%7D&siteid=mktw">www.marketwatch.com/news/...iteid=mktw</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>(2) <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://asia.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2005-08-28T003656Z_01_N27143680_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS-ENERGY-KATRINA-DC.XML">asia.reuters.com/news/new...INA-DC.XML</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>(3) <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/06/AR2005090600312.html">www.washingtonpost.com/wp...00312.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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I think I've got it

Postby somebody » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:58 pm

Ok, here's the deal. My spelling and grammar is/are/whatever, pretty bad, so please overlook all that. And I hope everyone will overlook that in the future too!! So here goes:<br><br>All these things such as rebuilding contracts, etc. just don't seem like a big enough payback for them, to me. <br><br> BUT, if they had their own MAJOR port that they controlled under the guise of Fatherland, oh I mean Homeland security, they can transport in all the drugs (like the shipment that was headed to Iraq and I suppose was to be transported back to the US on military carriers WITHOUT being questioned or searched) and whatever else they wanted to smuggle in with pretty good protection. Could control the flow of some oil, food, to boot. <br><br> Also, they will rebuild casino's and make NO all "happyland" again, because of course they need money laundering facilities. Both of those things are BIG BUCKS! <br><br> And they'll use the "superfund" toxic waste site as the excuse (too bad they didn't clean it up before) to get everyone out, and who can argue with that? The insider bastards in charge of all of this will benefit greatly for many, many years to come with that arrangement. <br><br>They knew that "sometime" a big storm would hit NO, and that their levee's wouldn't hold, and made sure no major repairs were done to them, to insure the devastation. right? All they had to do was wait.<br><br> They are evil for sure, but it's always about the money. Without any regard to anyone, anywhere, be it Cental America, the Middle East, or here. I still want to know the railroad line that the Carlye Group bought several months ago. I think it was in TX, but not certain. Oh, and some business are exempt from mandatory evacuation in NO, right now as we speak.<br><br>that is all...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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