Creating or Steering Hurricanes - is it possible?

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Creating or Steering Hurricanes - is it possible?

Postby whipstitch » Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:31 pm

I've been doing some research on the net to see how credible this is. Here's some of what I've come up with so far. Some are redundant to what has been posted elsewhere. One thing is for sure - I certainly don't remember seeing pentagrams inside the eye of hurricanes when I was growing up...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/uploaded_images/Isabel-MSFC-2003-737681.jpg">www.enterprisemission.com...737681.jpg</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>============================<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/1997/t042897_t0428coh.html">www.defenselink.mil/trans...28coh.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>DoD News Briefing Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen Monday, April 28, 1997 - 8:45 a.m. EDT <br><br>...[other scientists] are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. <br><br>=============================================<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-517">www.govtrack.us/congress/...l=s109-517</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>S. 517: A bill to establish a Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes<br>Introduced:        Mar 3, 2005<br>Sponsor:        Sen. Kay Hutchison [R-TX]<br>Status:        Introduced (By Sen. Kay Hutchison [R-TX])<br>Last Action:        Mar 3, 2005: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. (text of measure as introduced: CR S2025-2026)<br><br>=============================================<br>What is that 'beam'?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/images/katrina-eyewall-4-08-28-2005.jpg">www.noaanews.noaa.gov/sto...8-2005.jpg</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>=============================================<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn7929">www.newscientistspace.com...?id=dn7929</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Satellite images of Hurricane Katrina indicate the storm experienced several "hot tower" clouds during its development, say NASA.<br><br>Thunderstorms surround the eye of hurricanes and hot towers are tall rain clouds that reach far above the rest of the hurricane near the wall of the eye. They stretch at least to the ceiling of the troposphere – the atmosphere's lowest layer. The heat in the "hot tower" is generated by water vapour condensing into liquid water.<br><br>The hot towers, also known as convective bursts, are significant because scientists think they could be a precursor to a hurricane intensifying, a process that is still not well understood.<br><br>"We think they may form right before storms intensify – and intensity change is one of the Holy Grail processes,” says Marshall Shepherd, deputy project scientist of the Global Precipitation Measurement Mission (GPMM) and research meteorologist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Green Belt, Maryland, US. “Over the years in hurricane forecasting, we've gotten fairly good in forecasting where the storm's going to track."<br><br>But predicting hurricane intensity is not as easy. If people in coastal cities could get a better warning of when hurricane winds speeds are about to increase, they might be able to prepare their communities for a stronger storm.<br><br>Supercharged pistons<br><br>The vigorous convection of the hot towers releases a lot of energy in a short amount of time into the centre of a hurricane, acting like supercharged pistons in the hurricane's engine. This can result in a lower surface pressure, which causes the wind speed to increase.<br><br>This is what appears to have happened with Katrina. As well as the GPMM images, the Tropical Rainfall Measuring Mission (TRMM) satellite, run by NASA and the Japanese space agency, also saw at least two hot towers. The tower closest to the eye’s wall measured 16 kilometres high. Soon after the TRMM image was taken, Katrina intensified to a Category 4 storm on the Saffir-Simpson scale. <br><br>================================================<br><br>Summer 2005 Hurricane Season Animation: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mpg/126449main_katrina_fred_animation.mpg">www.nasa.gov/mpg/126449ma...mation.mpg</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>=====================================<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/wsj/access/22578219.html?dids=22578219:22578219&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT">pqasb.pqarchiver.com/wsj/...MTS=ABS:FT</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Malaysia to Battle Smog With Cyclones", <br>By Chen May Yee<br>The Wall Street Journal<br>Nov 13, 1997<br><br>"KULA LUMPUR -- Malaysia's war on smog is about to get a new twist. The government wants to create man-made cyclones to scrub away the haze that has plagued Malaysia since July. 'We will use special technology to create an artificial cyclone to clean the air', said Datuk Law Hieng Ding, minister for science, technology and the environment. The plan calls for the use of new Russian technology to create cyclones -- the giant storms also known as typhoons and hurricanes -- to cause torrential rains, washing the smoke out of the air. The Malaysian cabinet and the finance minister have approved the plan, Datuk Law said. A Malaysian company, BioCure Sdn. Bhd., will sign a memorandum of understanding soon with a government-owned Russian party to produce the cyclone."<br><br>"Datuk Law declined to disclose the size of the cyclone to be generated, or the mechanism. 'The details I don't have', he said. He did say, though, that the cyclone generated would be 'quite strong'. Datuk Law also declined to disclose the price of creating the cyclone. But, he said, Malaysia doesn't have to pay if the project doesn't work."<br><br>=============================================<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/wsj/access/4304655.html?dids=4304655&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS">pqasb.pqarchiver.com/wsj/...S&FMTS=ABS</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Rain, Rain, Go Away, Go Soak Someone Less Willing to Pay<br>By Ignatius, Adi<br>The Wall Street Journal<br>Oct 2, 1992<br><br>Elate Intelligent Technologies Inc, a small Russian company, promises that, for a fee, it can control weather patterns over a 200-mile range for $200 per day. Commercial director Igor Pirogoff says that the company has pioneered "weather extortion," in which it can guarantee outdoor organizers perfect weather. The company was founded by physicist Lev Pokhmelnykh, and its reputation for accuracy is mixed. A test-run also provided mixed results.<br><br>==============================================<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/harnessing_weather.html">www.americanfreepress.net...ather.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>HARNESSING WEATHER<br>ALLEGATIONS SURFACE THAT U.S. & RUSSIA HAVE TECHNOLOGY TO MANAGE HURRICANES<br><br>By Mike Blair<br><br>Author Sydney Sheldon said, “The old adage that everyone talks about the weather but no one does anything about it is no longer valid,” in an afterword to his fascinating novel Are You Afraid of the Dark?<br><br>“Today,” Sheldon continued, “two superpowers have the ability to control weather around the world: the United States and Russia. Other countries, probably China and North Korea, are working feverishly to catch up.”<br><br>As this article was being written the after effects of Hurricane Katrina were still being felt in the southeastern United States, after it caused billions of dollars in damage along the Gulf of Mexico coast, and the death toll from the killer storm was still being tabulated.<br><br>Could this devastation have been avoided? Could Katrina itself have been avoided as a death-dealing hurricane?<br><br>The answers to both questions are probably “Yes.” The ability of Russia and the United States to create storms of this magnitude definitely exists.<br><br>The big question that remains is, why, then, wasn’t Katrina stopped before it devastated three states—Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi—along the Gulf Coast?<br><br>There could be any number of reasons, but all would be mere speculation, as the fact is nothing was done to stop Katrina.<br><br>Those who doubt that Katrina, or any other hurricane, could be stopped—or created—can find substantiation in a long-forgotten article by Chen May Yee in the Nov. 13, 1997, issue of The Wall Street Journal.<br><br>The article recounts an offer by the Russians to aid Malaysia to create a typhoon to dissipate a pall of smoke that hung over the country—and still does—caused by the burning of large sections of the rain forests in Indonesia and Sumatra.<br><br>To quote from the article: Datuk Law Hieng Ding, Malaysia’s minister for science, technology and the environment at the time, said his country “would use special technology to create an artificial cyclone to clean the air.”<br><br>The article went on to say that a Malaysian company, BicCure Sdn. Bhd., would sign a memorandum of understanding with a government-owned Russian company to create a cyclone that would cause torrential rains and thus cleanse the air over Malaysia of the smoke and ash.<br><br>What Russian company was the Malaysian official talking about?<br><br>On Oct. 2, 1992, The Wall Street Journal reported that a Russian company, Elate Intelligent Technologies, Inc., has weather control equipment for sale and uses the advertising slogan of “weather made to order.”<br><br>Igor Pirogoff, director of the company, said “Elate is capable of fine-tuning weather patterns over a 200-squaremile area for as little as $200 U.S. per day,” the newspaper reported.<br><br>A year before the article was written, Hurricane Andrew caused $30 billion in damages as it plowed through the South. Pirogoff said Andrew could have been turned into “a wimpy little squall.”<br><br>According to a UN pamphlet, titled Basic Facts about the United Nations, which was published in 1994, the world body negotiated the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques in 1977. This “prohibits the use of techniques that would have widespread, long-lasting or severe effects through deliberate manipulation of natural processes and cause such phenomena as earthquakes, tidal waves, and changes in climate and in weather patterns.”<br><br>Getting back to Malaysia, where the potential for creating or dissipating cyclones seems to have made its first appearance, there was never any follow-up to the stories about Elate and whether in fact the cyclone was created, although it was approved by the Malaysian government.<br><br>A call by American Free Press to the Malaysian Embassy in Washington found no one there with any knowledge of the subject.<br><br>However, there was more success when the Malaysian delegation to the UN was contacted in New York. There, a spokesman claimed to have no knowledge of the creation of a cyclone, but was willing to discuss weather control in his country.<br><br>The official said that, by using weather control technology, rain could be created and was being created over the nation’s capital of Kuala Lumpur.<br><br>He said that often rain was created over the city to cleanse the air of the smoke emanating from Indonesia, and particularly Sumatra.<br><br>He indicated he did not know if the technology being used had been obtained from Russia, but it would appear that such technology to create rain on demand would not have been developed in a Third World country like Malaysia.<br><br>There have been numerous reports in recent years about strange changes in the jet stream, which have created alterations in the weather.<br><br>In 1982 a report by a Pentagon researcher, identified as L. Ponte, noted that “the Soviets have made advances in bending the all-important jet stream that sweeps across Siberia to set global wind patterns. By using explosive devices in the jet stream, scientists are trying to make it dip and rise in a wave that could replace the frigid Siberian winters with milder air from the South.”<br><br>How this would affect weather in other parts of the world was not reported by Ponte, but there have been dozens of reports since his 1982 report about changes in the jet stream’s normal behavior.<br><br>In 1996, a group of seven U.S. Air Force officers, who had prepared a research paper about weather warfare, issued a report, which concluded that there was technology under development that would provide “warriors of the future” with the means to control the course of military conflicts, including through the use of weather modification.<br><br>The study also states that manipulation of precipitation, storms and fog could improve America’s own weather but could also involve controlling the ionosphere to guarantee U.S. dominance of worldwide communications.<br><br>Is major weather control really possible? Is weather manipulation a means of conducting war? If not, why in 1977 did the United States, the then-Soviet Union and dozens of other countries believe it was a good idea to enact a UN treaty banning weather manipulation as a means of conducting war?<br><br>In the afterword of his book, Sheldon concludes:<br><br>“Weather is the most powerful force we know. Whoever controls it can disrupt world economies with perpetual rainstorms or tornadoes; wipe out crops in a drought; cause earthquakes, hurricanes and tsunamis; close world airports and cause devastation on enemy battlefields. “We could all sleep better if a world leader said, ‘Everyone talks about the weather, but no one does anything about it, and it was true.” =====================================<br>Soviet Weather Engineering over North America<br><br>This taped presentation, which was made in 1985, is included for historical reference purposes only. Since then, the technology has been developed into more rigorous longitudinal EM wave interferometry, which is the exact nature of those earlier weather engineering weapons. The foundations of scalar electro-magnetics are well explained in this presentation. (Beardon)<br><br>VIDEO: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://209.113.172.33/sovietweather.rm">209.113.172.33/sovietweather.rm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> (195MB)<br><br>=====================================<br>Richard Hoagland on recent Hurricane Manipulation<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane1.htm">www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane1.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/2005/08/hyperdimensional-katrina.html">www.enterprisemission.com...trina.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/2005/09/hyperdimensional-katrina-new-evidence.html">www.enterprisemission.com...dence.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>====================================<br>Weather Wars/ Scott Stevens<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.weatherwars.info/bio.htm">www.weatherwars.info/bio.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>====================================<br>Tom Beardon / Scalar Weapons<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cheniere.org/">www.cheniere.org/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>(currently appears that server is slammed)<br><br>====================================<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.enterprisemission.com/weblog/uploaded_images/Isabel-MSFC-2003-737681.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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re: Creating or Steering Hurricanes: Possible?

Postby Starman » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:09 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.brojon.org/frontpage.html">www.brojon.org/frontpage.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Brother Jonathon Gazette<br>HAARP's Schedule for August:<br>8/3 4 hrs<br>8.18 1 hr<br>8/12 1 hr<br>8/13 13 hrs<br>8/14 2 hrs<br>8/15 3 hrs<br>8/16 7 hrs<br>8/17 7 hrs<br>8/18 5 hrs<br>8/20 5 hrs<br>8/26 6 hrs<br>Note: This is a LOT of activity!<br>It might be instructive to compare Katrina Storm development with these times of HAARP power-up activity. Katrina essentially developed into a tropical storm on 8/24. In the 10 days preceeding, HAARP had been online and in high-power mode for 29 hours. This MAY be very significant, helping to explain how Katrina may have been deliberately pumped-up and steered. I'm not suggesting this actually occurred, merely offering information to help analyze whether such a thing is possible.<br>And, this is not to say that HAARP is the only facility that might be connected to weather manipulation -- It's pretty-well been established that Russia has had a major microwave transmission capability for the past 10 if not even 20 years, and it's probably likely that China and perhaps other countries have some degree of capability with facilities as well. This IS an important and intriguing topic that is well worth more investigation.<br>NOTE: The 8/26 HAARP activity of 6 hrs at high power (assumed) moderately correlates with storm increase from Category 1 to Category 3 at 9:00 GMT on 8/27: A more detailed side-by-side and map-coordinate comparison with the storm's progress from its earliest beginning might be very instrauctive. Such details are likely available with some patient net research. (I'm time-strapped.)<br>Katrina Storm Details:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://weather.latimes.com/tropical/at200512.disc.html">weather.latimes.com/tropi....disc.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>Tracking Info For Hurricane Katrina <br>Time_______Lat___Lon__Wind(mph)__Pressure__Storm type <br>------------------------------------------------------------------------ <br>21 GMT 08/23/05..23.2N 75.5W 35 1007 Tropical Depression <br>03 GMT 08/24/05..23.4N 76.0W 35 1007 Tropical Depression <br>09 GMT 08/24/05..24.0N 76.4W 35 1006 Tropical Depression <br>15 GMT 08/24/05..24.7N 76.7W 40 1006 Tropical Storm <br>21 GMT 08/24/05..25.6N 77.2W 45 1002 Tropical Storm <br>03 GMT 08/25/05..26.0N 78.0W 50 1001 Tropical Storm <br>09 GMT 08/25/05..26.2N 78.7W 50 1000 Tropical Storm <br>15 GMT 08/25/05..26.2N 79.3W 60 997 Tropical Storm <br>21 GMT 08/25/05..26.1N 79.9W 75 985 Category 1 Hurricane <br>03 GMT 08/26/05..25.5N 80.7W 75 984 Category 1 Hurricane <br>09 GMT 08/26/05..25.3N 81.5W 75 987 Category 1 Hurricane <br>15 GMT 08/26/05..25.1N 82.2W 75 981 Category 1 Hurricane <br>15 GMT 08/26/05..25.1N 82.2W 80 981 Category 1 Hurricane <br>15 GMT 08/26/05..25.1N 82.2W 100 971 Category 2 Hurricane <br>21 GMT 08/26/05..24.8N 82.9W 100 965 Category 2 Hurricane <br>03 GMT 08/27/05..24.6N 83.6W 105 965 Category 2 Hurricane <br>09 GMT 08/27/05..24.4N 84.4W 115 945 Category 3 Hurricane <br>15 GMT 08/27/05..24.5N 85.0W 115 940 Category 3 Hurricane <br>21 GMT 08/27/05..24.6N 85.6W 115 945 Category 3 Hurricane <br>03 GMT 08/28/05..25.0N 86.2W 115 939 Category 3 Hurricane <br>06 GMT 08/28/05..25.1N 86.8W 145 935 Category 4 Hurricane <br>09 GMT 08/28/05..25.4N 87.4W 145 935 Category 4 Hurricane <br>12 GMT 08/28/05..25.7N 87.7W 160 908 Category 5 Hurricane <br>15 GMT 08/28/05..26.0N 88.1W 175 907 Category 5 Hurricane <br>21 GMT 08/28/05..26.9N 89.0W 165 902 Category 5 Hurricane <br>03 GMT 08/29/05..27.6N 89.4W 160 904 Category 5 Hurricane <br>09 GMT 08/29/05..28.8N 89.6W 150 915 Category 4 Hurricane <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://weather.latimes.com/tropical/at200512.track.html">weather.latimes.com/tropi...track.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>The initial scale was developed by Saffir while on commission from the United Nations to study low-cost housing in hurricane-prone areas. While performing the study, Saffir realized there was no simple scale for describing the likely effects of a hurricane. Knowing the utility of the Richter magnitude scale in describing earthquakes, he devised a 1-5 scale based on wind speed that showed expected damage to structures. Saffir gave the scale to the NHC, and Simpson added in the effects of storm surge and flooding. <br>The five categories are, in order of increasing intensity: <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saffir-Simpson_Hurricane_Scale">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saf...cane_Scale</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>Don't know why they are calling it a Cat. 4, IT IS STILL WITHIN Cat. 5 in the mb and storm surge issues, and at Cat. 4 in sustained winds. <br>Cat 5 classification: <br>Sustained winds &#8805;70 m/s &#8805;156 mph &#8805;136 kt &#8805;250 km/h <br>Storm surge &#8805;19 ft &#8805;5.5 m <br>*****<br>Initial google search results on 'HAARP, Katrina':<br>HAARP and Hurricane Katrina - Above Top Secret Conspiracy CommunityDiscusion about HAARP and Hurricane Katrina in the Above Top Secret website discussion forum Fragile Earth. 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But with my research on the background of HAARP technology, it was pretty clear that ...<br>portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/323753.shtml - 101k - Sep 4, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages <br><br>IMC Brazil - katrina e antena HARPkatrina e antena HARP By ... 04/09/2005 At 01:59 .... HAARP HAARP. a alguns anos em uma revista cientifica etadunidense, foi exposta uma materia sobre um ...<br>www.midiaindependente.org/en/blue/2005/09/328762.shtml - 22k - Sep 4, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages <br><br>Want to Steer a Hurricane? <br>Title: HOW TO STEER A HURRICANE, Scalar Wars, The Brave New World of Scalar Electromagnetics <br>Author: sheeple_wake_up_service <br>Date: 2004.09.13 07:00 <br>Description: Engineering the weather is duck soup [because they have had less powerful 'haarp' ionospheric heaters for a long time]; they tested that over the U.S. in 1967, and entered upon continuing operations over North America on July 4, 1976 as a grim kind of KGB "Bicentennial Gift" to the United States. Here's how it is done with several interferometers. First, the interferometers can deliberately make "high pressure areas" (cool the air so it shrinks and its "footprint" pressure on the ground increases because its density increases) and "low pressure areas" (heat the air so that expands and its "footprint" pressure on the ground decreases because its density decreases). Well, if one makes the highs and lows where one wishes them, and judiciously and somewhat slowly moves them along a given path, these highs and lows will entrain the jet streams and thus "steer" the weather. "For the past six months I have been undergoing the greatest paradigm shift I have ever had to go through. It has rattled my nerves and shaken my bones. This intense adjustment of my "world" has come about by studying the information given by Col. Tom Bearden at his website Cheniere. The new knowledge there has necessitated a total revision of my ideas about physical reality, the world we live in, and the future of humanity. This paradigm shifting even actually made me dizzy on certain days as I tried to absorb and digest Bearden's vast amount of information. I am not a scientist at all, just a layman, and I have little comprehension of the math and high physics of this new science called "Scalar Electromagnetics." But there is a great deal of information at Cheniere which needs to become common knowledge as fast as possible, for the sake of the survival of life on earth. To that end I have put together this small primer... <br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297337.shtml">portland.indymedia.org/en...7337.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>Charley - Scalar Electromagnetics Used? <br>By Michael Edward <br>World Vision Portal.org <br>8-30-2004 <br>When Charley was approaching Jamaica, the oddest thing took place. It was following a direct line path through the center of Jamaica, but suddenly it made a perfect arched curve to the south, and ended up back on its original course after it had swung around the island. That was just as odd as the sudden right-hand turn it made into Charlotte Harbor. There's no doubt that since hurricane paths have been recorded over the past 200 years, no hurricane ever acted like Charley did or had ever followed such an erratic path. This was one of the biggest reasons Tampa was the predicted landfall area. <br>There are lots of unanswered questions about Charley... <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/08/296031.shtml">portland.indymedia.org/en...6031.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>*****<br>The Insane are running the Asylum 29.Aug.2005 15:34 <br>readerofstuff link <br>Last night on my local Fox's affiliate the meterologist, Sue Palka, commented that Katrina was taking an odd turn, one that she couldn't explain, but then she wasn't required to, and it was just an off hand comment. But with my research on the background of HAARP technology, it was pretty clear that the globalists have targetted this area for destruction. Looks like they also get to further restrict our oil and jack up the price with the added bonus, for they are Luciferians, of sacrificing poor people with the misfortune of not understanding the danger these sickos pose with their weather control. <br>***<br>FEMA wants damage, loves excuses to extend police state instead of risk demotion 29.Aug.2005 16:27 <br>eme link <br>AS KATRINA "HOVERED": <br>"As Katrina hovered over New Orleans for more than eight hours attacking with long, shuddering gusts, then pausing, as if taking a breath, and lunging and blowing once again with all its might, the 10-story City Hall, a rectangle of glass and steel built in the 1950's and other tall buildings swayed and flexed like cruise ships in a rough sea." <br>Another quote from the article: the below policeman and governor sound like Rumsfeld to me, gloating over "unstoppable terror, just prepare and suffer it, we are not going to do much, though we promise you we will pound the terorrists, er, you, afterwards." <br>Instead of helping out, they wait it out until afterwards. Then you get guys like this: <br>"a military officer had told them earlier, "Realistically, we're not going to be able to save everyone."" <br>"The governor also said that he had instructed law-enforcement agencies to treat looters "ruthlessly." The rules of engagement "will be as aggressive as the law allows," he said." <br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/29/national/">www.nytimes.com/2005/08/29/national/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>30stormcnd.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1125354629-kFZUjdB2gW1ni5HtZDI/gQ <br>WRONG. What you can do: change FEMA into a proper pre-PROTECTION and EMERGENCY PREPARATION AGENCY, instead of MERELY A FASCIST CONSTITUTIONAL SUSPENDING EMERGENCY RESPONSE agency. Originally, the unpalatable name for FEMA was after all the "Federal Emergency Military Authority." FEMA has power to countermand all independent media stories when it "federalizes" an area. <br>FEMA models "emergenies, responses, public reaction management, population control" instead of "locating dangers and pre-preparing", they have had all this data, they know where the most vulnerable "soft underbellies" of the USA are for interactions between earthquakes/weather and human infrastructures. Instead, they wait for them to happen instead of vitiating the dangers beforehand. Why is that? <br>I additionally read else where: lots of arm twisting on federal level by Mayfield and others to get maximum dislocation before storm even hits. Federal officials repeatedly called the New Orleans Mayor to order them all out over and over. Other federal officials gleefully have stated "wow, we really get to try out the million-person concentraion camp now." Great guy there, huh? <br>***<br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article309223.ece">news.independent.co.uk/wo...309223.ece</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>"police with automatic weapons" <br><br>Denise Bollinger, a tourist from Philadelphia, took pictures of the looters. She said: "It's downtown Baghdad. It's insane. I've wanted to come here for 10 years. I thought this was a sophisticated city. I guess not." [! Don't blame people, what a crazy woman. 4/5 of their city is 10-20 feet underwater, no food, refuse to publicly evacuate them before, etc. And American Blacks in the deep south, particularly New Orleans and Louisiana, are in one of the more institutionalized white racist caste states of the U.S. Louisian went from cotton plantations to oil/chemcial plantations without much social change. U.S. white elites have always experimented on "their" black populations with cold eugenic glee. Tuskeegee experiments in Alabama in the late 1930s intentionally infecting black prisoners with syphillis while denying medical attention and only watching and documenting them die? etc. The pre-Hiroshima atom bomb test on mostly black military dockworkers at Port Chicago in 1945. They flew in people connected with the atom bomb from Los Alamos to Port Chicago, Califorica, to write the official report on the explosion. No voting rights for blacks in the south until the late 1960s. Now, after a 30 year hiatus, the South has a high tech Jim Crow legal structure--with full complicit knowledge of white elites in the U.S. who twiddle their thumbs as electronic vote fraud via Diebold and others provide vote padding for a one party state and vote substraction for competitors: an electronic Jim Crow is in the south particularly in Georgia and Florida already.... The U.S. south, and much of the U.S. urban cities in the north--is effectively back in a "new and improved" 1950s, racially speaking in terms of civil rights demotions. Many elder whites in the deep south can still remember a time in their living memories when people simply beause of their skin color were denied the right to vote, were victims of state supported vigilante violence and economic discrimiantion, and learned to flee any KKK 'police forces' coming their way for their own safety.] <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article309222.ece">news.independent.co.uk/wo...309222.ece</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>****<br>Starman <p></p><i></i>
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scalar tech or nonsense?

Postby lurker » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:44 pm

This guy thinks beardens maths is flaky.<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://quantumfuture.net/quantum_future/thoughts_1.htm"><br>Bearden and Hoagland<br><br>Critical Notes on Tom Bearden and Richard Hoagland<br>By Arkadiusz Jadczyk<br></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://quantumfuture.net/quantum_future/bearden.htm">Alt link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Me I dunno.Wish i did.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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another critical view of bearden

Postby lurker » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:54 pm

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Re: Creating or Steering Hurricanes - is it possible?

Postby Qutb » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:41 pm

Thanks lurker. You should lurk less and post more! Though I wish I hadn't clicked on this thread, because now I have to find time to read this stuff and educate myself on the science involved. <p><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:black;font-family:century gothic;font-size:x-small;"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br></p><i></i>
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bearden and the oil companies

Postby lurker » Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:54 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread9268.html">who is mr bearden really?</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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from other thread

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:09 am

Looks like typical infighting in the scientific community Went to lurkers link and read the critique of Bearden. Not impressed. At the best, it looks like a typical bickering contest between research scientists, that their model is more accurate than the other person. Worried about who will get the "credit".<br><br>In many ways the link appears to me to try and baffle the reader with poorly written/organized BS over accuracy of models (i.e. how many decimal points etc...) and the fact that scientists who support Bearden can be discredited, due to flack from the rest of the scientific community. Typical BS that occurs when a new theory shake up the old theories. Some scientists don't like being wrong.<br><br>Many models of processes are simplified and are still be able to be used to predict behaviour. Removing air friction from falling still gives a good indication of how fast an object will fall, but it is not mathematically "correct".<br><br>"Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized In the first it is ridiculed, in the second it is opposed, in the third it is regarded as self-evident".<br><br>It's amazing how some topics get a lot of flack thrown their way.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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re:"it's amazing

Postby rain » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:34 am

how some topics get a lot of flack thrown their way"<br><br>yep, but now that they're announcing their little PR team for their 'experimental' interests, if something does go 'wrong', not only is the 'science' highly contentious (or is that plausible deniability), but it can all be blamed on a "failure of intelligence".<br><br>(Anna, how's the martian tally?)<br> <p></p><i></i>
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this is a different link spyvsspy in another thread

Postby lurker » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:56 am

that link is not about hoagland its somebodys research on the background of bearden.another dodgy character.i would like someone with a maths or science dgree to give an informed viewpoint <p></p><i></i>
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re: they're announcing

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:01 am

I'm sure with the latest trend this tech will be privatized and given to companies behind Bush. More corporate welfare with major federal money, to research tech that is already on the shelf. Another way of getting funding for the real black ops. Time to make money on the simple stuff such as rain or sunny days. Earthquakes, tornados, and hurricanes are of course impossible at today's techonolgy level. They still have to keep the real magic secret. <br><br>When will the religious meme be pushed on society, after the next few hurricanes (1/2 way through the season), and a few earthquakes, the populace will believe anything. Think of all that real estate that can be eminent domained, nevermind the useless eaters that won't be around, "why trouble my beautiful mind with those thoughts", just think of those new private golf clubs and resorts that we'll make money on. <p></p><i></i>
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scalar tech or nonsense?

Postby lurker » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:03 am

i am open to the idea of scalar and weather modification tech but mr bearden and mr hoagland seem to have very dubious connections to intelligence /oil companies/liars and their backgrounds and track records are very dubious to me so i cannot take this stuff uncritically.I am trying to deduce what the psyop is here.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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debunking

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:13 am

How come people who attack this topic, avoid the items that are documented in MSM. Where is the attack on Secretery of Defense Cohen, UN treaty, D. Kunnich cosponser on ban of space based weapons (inc. weather control, oh thats right he's a liberal wacko), Wall Street Journal report on Malaysia cyclones, Military plans for weather domination. If the gov is establishing a weather department, what technology is out there. It doesn't seem like they are going to invest in cloud seeding operations and the real stuff will be slowly released over time, as determined by tptb. <br><br>I also seem to remember that the head of the Japanese sect/cult predicted the exact date of the Kobe earthquake. (excuse can't remember all details but given time I could search for it).<br><br>These topics are carefully avoided, and only the web based sources are attacked. Of course that may be part of the plan. Put the info out there, since it will get out, but make sure the gatekeepers can be discredited in the public eye. Control the argument. <p></p><i></i>
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found this on liberty forum

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:47 am

Interesting on liberty forum there is a thread about Bearden's site getting hammered. <br><br>Hmmm, info wars being fought, see below:<br>India Daily News<br>Weather Manipulation<br>Mon Sep 5, 2005 20:42<br><br>The new buzz word among weather manipulators is guiding a storm after it is formed. The technology of guiding storms after it is formed uses electromagnetic force fields created around the center if the eye of the storm or cyclone or Typhoon.<br><br>A new cyclone and typhoon season is starting worldwide. Different country?s weather bureaus have started predicting typhoons and cyclones all over the world. However, some weather scientists strongly believe that there will be covert attempts by different nations to create cyclone as an experiment and also attempts to control them artificially.<br><br>The most modern method of artificial weather manipulation involve artificial ionization of earth?s atmosphere between 15,000 and 30,000 ft. and above. Manipulating the ionosphere and use of controlled solar-terrestrial interactions can create much larger effects. Scientists are realizing that the earth?s weather is controlled by Sun's natural Electromagnetic Radiation reaching the earth. The Sun?s Radiations and Ultraviolet Rays have to cross the ionosphere to reach the earth.<br><br>There are early indications that the solar radiations and flares are directly responsible for planetary weather changes. And Solar flares and levels of radiations are caused by bombardment of cosmic rays on the Sun from either a distant massive black hole or a star-cluster caused by the collapse of thousands and thousands of stars in a small space.<br><br>Computer models obviously focused on the ionosphere, which acts as a filter for the solar radiations to reach the earth. If one can manipulate and control the filter, it becomes a potential source of massive weather modification. That is what the computer simulation models found. Controlling the ionosphere potentially allows weather control. The algorithmic variation of ionosphere can create the magic in a massive scale.<br><br>There are many methods of controlling the ionosphere. It is the process of artificially manipulating ion density in the ionosphere. High power transmitter and antenna array operating in the HF(High Frequency) range is one of the methods. There are lots of literature on that in the Internet and declassified scientific research journals.<br><br>However, the recent trend is in using super conductors in space satellites to generate intense high intensity electromagnetic flux.<br><br>Experts are predicting that this season, the high intensity electromagnetic flux will be used to generate far more violent weather patterns. Interestingly. Counter measures are in place too. Something called reverse electromagnetic flux can neutralize the adverse violent weather pattern.<br><br>Countries have studied last year weather manipulation patters and unpredictable weather sequences. These countries are ready this year with appropriate counter measures.<br><br>Copyright ? 2004-2005, Indiadaily.com<br> <p></p><i></i>
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more infowars (anti-hurricane)

Postby spyvsspy » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:07 am

From liberty forum (science) more infowars.<br><br>Simulating black holes to counter artificial hurricanes<br><br>India Daily Technology Team<br>Sep. 4, 2005<br><br>According to some scientists, a covert war is being fought in the world by creating and guiding artificial hurricanes. It requires enormous amount energy to do this unless the technique can coincide with powerful solar winds. The energy can also be tapped from the hyperspace radiation through appropriate openings through Fermions.<br><br>Scientists all over the world are eager to find counter measures that can neutralize these alleged artificial hurricanes.<br><br>The clue came from black holes. According to Karl Schwarzchild, as a solution to Einstein’s field equation, space-time around an spherically symmetric black hole has a defined point based on r=2M – a point called “even horizon”. Not even light can escape beyond this point. It is the inevitable singularity at the black hole’s center.<br><br>If someone tries to get into this black hole approaching radially, the entity will slow down gradually. Eventually it would appear to take her an infinite amount of time to cross the event horizon.<br><br>Scientists are simulating putting an artificially created hurricane into an artificially created black hole. What really would happen to the hurricane is that it would stall completely and then the event horizon can be moved into a safer area in the ocean so that the hurricane can be systematically dismantled.<br><br>If a hurricane is created artificially, it is also guided to make sure it is guided to the right area. Once the artificial hurricane is entrapped within the counter measure of the black hole, the adversary’s guidance mechanisms will also be absorbed by the clack hole.<br><br>The biggest question is how a miniature black hole can be simulated around the artificial hurricane. The answer comes from the same technology used in creating the hurricane in the first place. If the magnetosphere and the ionosphere can be manipulated appropriately and the incoming solar winds used, a simulated black hole can be created to the extent that it can contain the artificial hurricane.<br><br>        <p></p><i></i>
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while washing the dishes ...

Postby rain » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:35 am

just a quick thought -<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/Laura-Knight-Jadczyk/mass_mind_control.htm">www.cassiopaea.org/cass/L...ontrol.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>oh and, 'covert war' - that's bunk. ok. mostly bunk.<br><br>more washing, mopping, d.d. to do. later.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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