not an invitation to RAPE ME

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Re: not an invitation to RAPE ME

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:34 am

Everyone's name associated with this has now been dragged through the mud by some member of the media or another.<br><br>It's a bullshit true crime story like OJ. We have now successfully replaced 90% of news with true crime stories, celebrity gossip, sports, weather and fluffy "human interest" stories.<br><br>I went to Duke, so I "get" to have an opinion on this. If you did not and you're not from North Carolina, ask yourself why the fuck you even know about this? How many rapes have happened in your state in the past 3 months? But I guess they didn't have black strippers and rich white college athletes pitted against each other, huh? Or did they? Do you even know?<br><br>The one good thing to come of this is that it has forced Duke to have a dialogue about this crap. When I went to Duke, 90% of the students lived and partied on campus in co-ed quad housing. Nobody could have gotten away with even hiring strippers under the circumstances. Two frats had their charters revoked for allegations of sexual "trains" even though the women involved (drunk "little sisters") didn't want to press charges, and the frats I had friends in both had off-campus "smokers" that consisted of lighting up cheap cigars and watching some laughably bad super-8 pornos. That's the worst I ever saw or read about at the time, but I heard about a number of date rapes (that were reported only through the grapevine) and most of the time a jock was the culprit. <br><br>My guess is that many if not most of these lacrosse guys are ultra-privileged sexist scum. However, I don't know how many of them are ultra-privileged sexist scum, and I don't know how many of them are rapists. Rape is rape and rapists are rapists whether the victim was a stripper or drunk or whatever. However, media circuses are also media circuses. I think one can deplore all three (rape, rapists and media circuses) at the same time. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=stickdog99>stickdog99</A> at: 4/23/06 7:43 am<br></i>
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Re: not an invitation to RAPE ME

Postby RB1 » Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:52 am

CyberChrist,<br><br>So, please define exactly what clothes make one safe around you Christian males?<br><br>Formal evening wear is out. Party clothes are out. Swimwear is out. Casual clothes are out...<br><br>...and clearly, by the way the priests have been treating alter boys, full body length robes are out. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: not an invitation to RAPE ME

Postby RB1 » Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:35 pm

Spare me the "pity poor little picked-on Duke" speech.<br><br>Duke... the University lung cancer built. All that neo-Gothic architecture bought and paid for by tobacco money.<br><br>Duke... one of the cornerstones of preserving Southern white elitism in the South.<br><br>Duke... notorious for decades for the lack of opportunities for minority students<br><br>Duke has represented the worst the American South had to offer for most of it's history.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: not an invitation to RAPE ME

Postby stickdog99 » Sun Apr 23, 2006 6:42 pm

If you think the worst things about Duke from the 1970s on have anything to do with the ancient history you posted, RB1, guess again.<br><br>Sure, Duke's faux-Gothic facades were built with tobacco money on the shoulders of poor tobacco farmers and cancer ridden mill workers. And the United States exterminated 98% of Native Americans.<br><br>But Duke isn't even a Southern institution by any standards of the South, and it hasn't been for well over three decades, at least. Both the student body and the faculty are 80%+ displaced Northerners.<br><br>Duke has had more students from NY, NJ and New England alone than from the entire South for at least the last 30 years. Duke's faculty is 90% Ivy League educated because Duke has been an Ivy League wannabe ever since its regents and trustees found out they could make a mint selling Duke as a "hot college" for rich preppies who want to party a little and who can't quite get admitted to Harvard, Yale or Stanford.<br><br>Duke is run like a giant corporation, and there are a lot of highest level "executives" at Duke who are making a KILLING. All of Duke U's land has long since been bequeathed, and the cost of labor and rent in Durham, NC is a lot less than at any of the other top 10 schools Duke competes with. But Duke doesn't pass any of its savings on to its students, instead pricing Duke as a "bargain" (to the kids of Northeastern elites) because it's only 95% as expensive as "comparable" universities located in places like the SF bay area and one of nicest neighborhoods in Boston. Duke is a veritable money making machine, going so far as to disallow all student business ventures within its walls (unless, of course, a student somehow gets a good thing going around these restrictions and Duke can step in and get a big cut of the action).<br><br>Duke is located in Durham, NC, a poor town that is racially divided down the center. Duke's imported Northerners generally treat Durhamites the way that Guiliani's biggest Manhattan contributors treat New York City's homeless population. For years, Duke has responded to Durham problems like poverty with silly canned food drives and crime by further sealing up Duke's campus with a huge force of double standard rent-a-cops. <br><br>Durham's "justice system" is even worse. When I was there, it consisted of a bunch of cops who would traverse any black neighborhoods except the most crime ridden ones, picking up poor folks for offenses like loitering and gambling and throwing them in the pen. If you were a Duke student, they would throw the book at you, but if you played their game and paid the right tied in lawyer enough, you'd invaribly be able to plea yourself down from that dreaded "career-killing" felony once your parents ponied up a few thousand more to pay your negotiated fine.<br><br>I could go on an on and on. Race relations at Duke are poor. Duke makes all sorts of money grubbing admission exceptions for the uber-rich. Duke's commitment to economic diversity still lags far, far beyond its commitment to filling its coffers. I used to watch idiot Duke frat boys making toasts and singing songs of praise to that "great statesman" Ronald Reagan. And so I'm wondering, RB1, exactly where did you get the idea that I ever gave a "pity poor little picked-on Duke" speech? Nothing I said in my first post said I thought Duke was getting a raw deal from anyone, and nothing I said in my first post was non-factual. In fact, I said that one good thing about this event was that it's forcing Duke to confront a few of its demons.<br><br>Your reply, at least as it applies to my post (as well as Duke University from the 1970's onward) is fundamentally ignorant. I mean, Duke stands for the worst of the South? PLEASE! Duke is basically a bunch of Johnnie-come-lately Yankee carpetbaggers gouging a bunch of rich Yankee Republican parents. The only thing South about it is its location.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=stickdog99>stickdog99</A> at: 4/23/06 4:45 pm<br></i>
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Re: not an invitation to RAPE ME

Postby CyberChrist » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:56 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>CyberChrist,<br><br>So, please define exactly what clothes make one safe around you Christian males?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>RB1,<br><br>So, please define what makes you think I am one of those "Christian males".<br><br>(rest of ad hominem crap ignored).<br><br>Not a great way for you to make your first post. <p>--<br>CyberChrist<br>http://www.hackerjournal.org<br>My brain is hung like a horse.</p><i></i>
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