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Homeland Security -- Brian Doyle, predator/offender

Postby nashvillebrook » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:18 pm

Homeland Security press secretary, brian doyle uses his work cell phone to solicit sex from a child.<br><br>Another Homeland Security official -- Frank Figueroa, special agent in charge of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Tampa -- and former head of HOMELAND SECURITY's OPERATION PREDATOR which supposedly tracked down sexual predators (and apparently gave them jobs), masturbates for ten minutes to a teenage girl in a suburban Tampa mall food court. <br><br>then there's Homeland Security agent Michael Burks caught in a DATELINE NBC televised sting! <br><br>so, rigorous intuitors -- what's up with all this shit? any ideas why the Department of Homeland Security would attract or produce so many perps? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Homeland Security -- Brian Doyle, predator/offender

Postby sunny » Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:29 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>any ideas why the Department of Homeland Security would attract or produce so many perps?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>Because Homeland Security is a boondoggle and third string neocon, pervy hangers-on are being thrown a biscuit. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby chiggerbit » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:38 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The posters at that site disregard her testimony</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><br>Whew, amygray1, I'm only about a third of the way through that interview. ( www.forumsforjustice.org/...php?t=3971). Can you tell me why the posters at that site discount Nancy's claims? She would seem to have a lot of documentary support for her claims, if those photos/faxes hold up to scrutiny. Also, what is the original source of the interview, and how did it end up at that site?<br><br>What the heck am I missing here? What's missing?<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://vincentbridges.com/?p=83">vincentbridges.com/?p=83</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"...District Attorney Alex Hunter has turned over new information to Boulder police and the FBI that he says could provide a major breakthrough in solving the 3-year-old JonBenét Ramsey murder case.” Hartman continues, writing that “the information is from testimony and documents provided voluntarily by a 37-year-old California woman who was brought forward by Boulder attorney Lee Hill. The woman said she has suffered a lifetime of sexual and physical abuse, beginning at age 3. Her story, if true, could mean the Ramsey case is tangled in sexual abuse and involves more people than originally thought. Hunter said he finds the woman to be ‘very believable.’ Boulder police detectives, however, aren’t so sure. ‘Even if only 15 percent of what she says is true,’ Hunter said, ‘this case warrants investigation. And if Boulder cops don’t want to do it, I will take the case to the US. Attorney.’ ”<br>And now, two weeks later, after Boulder detectives have questioned the informant and her therapist in California, long time Boulder County District Attorney Alex Hunter has decided to not run again for relection ending a 28 year career. On March 9, he issued a short and terse statement to the effect that he was ending his reign as District Attroney. No reason was given, certainly none related to the on-going investigation of child sexual abuse and JonBenet’s death. Did the breakthrough in the case break Alex Hunter?<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 8/19/06 9:58 pm<br></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby sunny » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:32 am

Two quick observations before I go back and continue reading: If it can be corroborated that the man who was convicted of molesting Krebs actually died in her mother's house, that should have told the police a lot about the nature of this woman's family.<br><br>Aspen sure is coming up a lot in this transcript. Wonder what Scooter Libby and Judy Miller were <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>really</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> doing there? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:43 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Because Homeland Security is a boondoggle and third string neocon, pervy hangers-on are being thrown a biscuit.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>They strike me as America's equivelant of the SS Officers. The only await more freedom(or lack of) to act upon the aggressions they're currently barred from unleasing on civilians. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:43 am

I remember reading an article that Fleet had acknowledged knowing the Krebs family. Nancy Krebs was written off as being mentally ill. <br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=amygray1>amygray1</A> at: 8/20/06 12:11 am<br></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:48 am

Sorry, screwed up this post. I am trying to learn how to paricipate in the forum. Please ignore <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=amygray1>amygray1</A> at: 8/20/06 12:13 am<br></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby amygray1 » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:12 am

"Can you tell me why the posters at that site discount Nancy's claims? She would seem to have a lot of documentary support for her claims, if those photos/faxes hold up to scrutiny. Also, what is the original source of the interview, and how did it end up at that site?"<br><br>It has been about a year since I read through all the posts on that forum but if I recall, during the last interview, the police completely disregard Nancy's testimony. I think that she had some dates wrong. As for the posters on that site, I think that they hold the majority view in regards to mind control or organized sex rings. That is, they find it unbelievable. IMHO, her testimony seems to corroborate what other victims have said.<br><br>You asked how it ended up at that site. I read all this a long time ago but I think that this was the reason:<br><br>Another Jonbenet researcher had a crime forum in regards to the case. This researcher was a big supporter of Nancy Kreb's account. I believe that this researcher even provided a safe house for Nancy when she was interviewed in Colorado. Apparently the two sites were at odds because of their opposing views on the case. I think that the person who posted the interview was attempting to show how "ridiculous" the Nancy Krebs story was. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=amygray1>amygray1</A> at: 8/20/06 12:25 am<br></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:20 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I think that she had some dates wrong</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br><br><br>OMG, what did they do, ask her what she ate on January 24th, 1973? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:43 am

I notice that the cops interviewing her keep the tape running even though they pretend to be giving her and her support person(therapist?) a break. Not kosher. Lousy tape job, too. Very lousy. They should have asked for their money back on that equipment. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby sunny » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:44 am

After I finished the transcript, I read through some of the comments and followed a link to an earlier discussion. All of the commenters, including "Tricia" the administrator, claim that Krebs has been discredited, but provided <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>no evidence whatsoever</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that this is the case. All they can say is she is "disturbed." Well, duh. Who wouldn't be after what she claims happened to her?<br><br>Seems it would be an easy thing to prove connections to the White family, phone calls, etc. Does anyone know of a more recent analysis of this aspect of the case? (I guess that is the 6 million $ question, isn't it?) <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby sunny » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:48 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Lousy tape job, too. Very lousy<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Lousy interview as well. They should have let her tell the story as she wished, with minimum interruption, taking notes of specific questions and asked them at the end of her tale. All the interruptions did was cause her anxiety; many trains of thought were lost and some were never revisited in any comprehensive way.<br><br>I would love to know what has become of Nancy. I hope she's well, bless her heart. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:54 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I think that the person who posted the interview was attempting to show how "ridiculous" the Nancy Krebs story was.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><br>And just how did this person come by this transcript? Much, way too much ineptness, utter incompetence, possible ethics violations in this case. What a fuck-up. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby chiggerbit » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:02 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Lousy interview as well.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Probably the result of there being WAY more information than cops are usually trained to take in. Long history, with multiple perps, that took the therapist years to gather, and now this gal is expected to condense it for them? Hmmmph. Also, seems like an awful lot of people in on the interview, makes it confusing, for her, for the interviewers, and for the reader. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Nancy Krebs 37 yr old California woman

Postby sunny » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:13 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://66.98.176.96/~tricia/forums/showpost.php?p=42203&postcount=1">66.98.176.96/~tricia/foru...ostcount=1</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Read the linked forum post. This "Tricia" person is desperately trying to discredit Krebs, repeatedly asserting she is lying without offering a scrap of documentation. All the while <br><br>The fact that Lee Hill's life has apparently been destroyed is the most shocking information contained in the post. Read the following and tell me- do you think Lee Hill simply went nuts, or was he in fear for his life?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Lee Hill was afforded all kinds of publicity when Nancy Krebs came into Boulder with her outlandish story. TV, Newspapers, Radio. He seemed to be the darling of the media if you will. <br><br>Then on Aug. 2002 Lee Hill allegedly held a loaded gun to his wife's head. He was arrested. He was released on bond, which included the stipulation of, "No contact with weapons of any kind." Legally maneuvering took place. He was again arrested. Evidence was suppressed. The battle continued on. <br><br>Yet not one media outlet has covered the Lee Hill story except his first arrest in Aug. 2002. No big headlines warning the people of Boulder that this once great attorney, who brought the "mystery witness" into their lives, is on the lam and is armed. Nothing. Their silence is deafening. <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.boulderweekly.com/archiv...2/newsspin.html">www.boulderweekly.com/arc...sspin.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>(scroll for the Lee Hill story) <br><br>Could it be the media is embarrassed by how they embraced Hill and now just want him to go away? Barrie Hartman of the Boulder Daily Camera should be mortified at how he backed Hill and Krebs. Yet not a word from that ace journalist Barrie Hartman. <br><br>Here is where the story stands as of today. <br><br>Lee Hill was arrested on June 25th 2003. Driving without a license, no insurance, more importantly, Lee Hill's bond was still in effect, which meant NO CONTACT WITH WEAPONS. Lee Hill was found with over 25 knives in his car. Many homemade it appears. Also Lee Hill had filed down a key ring full of keys to deadly points. Once again he was arrested and his weapons confiscated. He was released and a few days later, inexplicably, he was allowed to collect his weapons and leave. Why the BPD gave Lee Hill back his weapons is beyond me. He was under an order of the court not to have any. But they did. He jumped bond and hasn't been seen since. <br><br>WHY? What is Lee Hill running from? His license to practice law is no longer valid. His life was not going well but why make it a million times worse with this kind of behavior? What did have to gain? <br><br>Could it be that Lee Hill is running from someone? Someone who is displeased with how Lee Hill might have handled things in certain cases? Did Lee Hill blow it and this made certain people angry? <br><br>Or has Lee Hill plainly flipped his lid?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>I would like to know who "Tricia" is.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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