Arrest made in JonBenet Ramsey murder case

by **chiggerbit** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:40 pm

More old details of the case here: <a href="http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/index_1.html">www.crimelibrary.com/noto...dex_1.html</a>

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:44 pm

From Karr's <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/adeec5f0d0049159/8e2c15293ff84be0?lnk=st&q=PowerWurks&rnum=9&hl=en#8e2c15293ff84be0">Usenet posting history</a>: From: an516222 - view profile Date: Thurs, Mar 7 1996 12:00 am Email: an516...@anon.penet.fi Groups: alt.missing-kids If it would help anyone on this newsgroup, I have the complete data base of the National Center For Missing and Exploited Children. I downloaded it from their website. Their URL is http://www.missingkids.org If you don't have web access, I'd be glad to help. My name is John Karr, creator of PowerWurks; a world wide support organization for kids, teens and college students. At this time, it is an e-mail based crisis feedback program. I have alot of plans for the future, like an 800 hotline and more. All my plans revolve around kids. I am very concerned about the well being of all young people. I'll do anything I can to help find a missing child. I have 3 children of my own and I don't know what I would do if they were taken from me. Please don't hesitate to ask for my assistance. I can't send the huge data base to you but I will share any information that might help you. Please respond via e-mail to PowerWu...@aol.com For quicker response, *don't* address e-mail to an516...@anon.penet.fi. Sincerely, John Karr PowerWurks Support/Feedback/Security PowerWu...@aol.com http://members.aol.com/powerwurks/index.htm <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.parents-teens/browse_thread/thread/82817c6a418bce6f/f3ebe3eceff7515e?lnk=st&q=PowerWurks&rnum=14&hl=en#f3ebe3eceff7515e">from alt.parents-teens</a>: Do You Care About Kids? Only 1 message in topic - view as tree From: PowerWurks - view profile Date: Sat, Mar 23 1996 12:00 am Email: PowerWurks <PowerWu...@sonet.net> Groups: alt.parents-teens Not yet rated Rating: show options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author Dear Parents, Of course you care about kids and so do I. My name is John Karr and I am the father of three. If I can help your kids or you, in any way, please feel free to contact me. I talk to kids worldwide about their problems or just offer my friendshi p to a young person who feels like the world has forgotten them. I want to tell you about my organization, PowerWurks. PowerWurks is a support organization for kids, teens and college students, that provides personal response feedback on any subject they want to d iscuss. We provide a safe and private environment where young people can freely and comfortably express their thoughts and feelings on any subject. No subject is banned from discussion. All conversat ions are strictly confidential and that's a promise!! At this time, it is an e-mail based advice and crisis program. I have alot of plans for the future, like an 800 hotline and more. All my plans revolve around kids. Sincerely, John Karr PowerWurks Support/Feedback/Security PowerWu...@sonet.net http://www.sonet.net/usr/powerwurks/index.htm

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:47 pm

<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/k12.chat.elementary/browse_thread/thread/4a00c87318c1686a/094e9bcbb10a6649?lnk=st&q=PowerWurks&rnum=17&hl=en#094e9bcbb10a6649">from k12.chat.elementary</a>: From: PowerWurks - view profile Date: Tues, Feb 6 1996 12:00 am Email: powerwu...@aol.com (PowerWurks) Groups: k12.chat.elementary Not yet rated Rating: show options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author Is sex among people under 10 a rarity or common place? http://members.aol.com/powerwurks/romance.htm Or send an e-mail to PowerWu...@aol.com PowerWurks Support/Feedback/Security PowerWu...@aol.com

by **Asta** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:48 pm

Some oddities I've thought about, besides it's obvious bogus-ness. It talks of beheading the child. Hmmm. Shades of Iraq. Foreign faction. Again, shades of them pesky terrests. Victory! S.B.T.C -- Saved by the Cross? Subec Bay Training Center? Wasn't John Ramsey stationed at one time at Subec Bay when he was in the service? (I will try to find out about that.) What kidnapper leaves a 31/2 page note...make that essay. The author had time to write it, in fact, I remember there being a couple of initial drafts found, am I correct?

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:52 pm

<a href="http://groups.google.com/group/k12.chat.elementary/browse_thread/thread/4a00c87318c1686a/094e9bcbb10a6649?lnk=st&q=PowerWurks&rnum=17&hl=en#094e9bcbb10a6649">also from k12.chat.elementary</a>: Do You Feel Like No One Cares About You? All 2 messages in topic - view as tree From: PowerWurks - view profile Date: Sat, Feb 10 1996 12:00 am Email: powerwu...@aol.com (PowerWurks) Groups: k12.chat.junior Not yet rated Rating: show options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author Someone does care about you. PowerWurks is a support organization for young people that provides personal response feedback on any subject that you want to discuss. We provide a safe and private environment where you can freely and comfortably express your thoughts and feelings on any subject. No subject is banned from discussion. All conversations are strictly confidential and that's a promise!! PowerWurks Support/Feedback/Security PowerWu...@aol.com http://members.aol.com/powerwurks/index.htm

by **sunny** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:56 pm

I wonder who else belonged to the PowerWurks "organization"? (PowerWurks? wurks for who?)

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:05 pm

"Powerwurks" seems a secular version of the internet lure <a href="http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/08/arcadian-fields-forever.html">"Arcadian Fields Ministries."</a> I wonder how many others exist, and to what degree they may be networked.

by **professorpan** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:14 pm

One other quirk: Karr has apparently stated that he drugged JonBenet. The tox screening revealed no drugs or alcohol in her system.

by **professorpan** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:22 pm

<a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1104AP_JonBenet_Suspect_Resumes.html">seattlepi.nwsource.com/na...sumes.html</a> SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1104AP_JonBenet_Suspect_Resumes.html">seattlepi.nwsource.com/na...sumes.html</a> Karr a globe-trotting teacher in resumes By BURT HERMAN ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER SEOUL, South Korea -- The American school teacher arrested for the killing of JonBenet Ramsey apparently claimed to have a globe-trotting history of teaching assignments in online resumes he purportedly posted to seek work abroad giving English lessons. The resumes of a John Karr are posted on at least two Web sites based in South Korea and Los Angeles. They appear with the picture of a man who strongly resembles 41-year-old John Mark Karr, who appeared before reporters Thursday in Thailand a day after his arrest. Karr admitted he was with JonBenet when she died in 1996 and claimed it was an accident, a breakthrough in a case that many thought would never be solved. The resumes suggested Karr traveled the globe teaching as a private tutor and at schools in Europe, Asia and Central America the past several years, though none of the positions the resumes claim he held could be immediately verified. One English-language institute where Karr's resume was posted removed it from its Web site Thursday in response to a reporter's query, citing concerns about bad publicity. The Seoul-based GnB English institute said it never employed Karr and that the Web page on which he posted his resume was open for postings by anyone looking for teaching jobs. "We have never even interviewed him," said Um Dae-jin, an official at GnB in Seoul. The resume was posted June 22, 2005, and has a photo of Karr in a blue and yellow sweater crouching down at a table next to a young girl. The posting says Karr worked in Seoul as an English teacher for children ages 6-12 and that duties included "conducting classes as the sole teacher in the classroom, making assignments and issuing grades." No school name was given, and South Korean immigration officials declined to confirm if Karr had ever entered the country. According to the site, Karr also worked as a volunteer English teacher at a school in Heemstede, Netherlands. The resume also claims Karr was employed "in some of the most prestigious schools in the United States, working with children from high-profile families" between 1996 - the year JonBenet was killed - and 2001.  At a Los Angeles-based Web site for recruiting English teachers to serve abroad, a resume with Karr's name on it features the same photo as the Korean site and similar wording. No date of the posting is given, and the company running the site couldn't be immediately reached for comment. The resume says Karr was in Asia from 2001-02 and lists additional teaching work from 2004-05 in Honduras. It also says Karr taught English to executives in Costa Rica. The posting also says Karr worked as a private teacher and caregiver in Germany and the Netherlands, apparently for three families with young children from 2002-03. The posting doesn't name the German cities where he worked but later mentions Munich and Stuttgart as places he had visited. Prosecutors in both of those cities said Thursday that they had no record of any investigation involving Karr. The posting also boasts of travels to many other cities, including London; Paris; Amsterdam, Netherlands; Zurich, Switzerland; Milan, Italy; Osaka, Japan; Seoul, South Korea; Sydney, Australia; Singapore; Taipei, Taiwan; and Istanbul, Turkey. In addition to teaching, the resume says Karr can play several unspecified musical instruments, that he writes poetry and also has acting ability. From 1981-96, the resume says Karr ran a private rental business and restored Victorian mansions.

by **Dreams End** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:24 pm

Actually, I think that usenet stuff should be sent to the boulder police, in case someone there is actually investigating the case. You'd think they would do such searches as standard procedure but maybe not. Does sort of make Karr look like a pathetic lone operator. I mean, what parent would take his offer, with no qualifications listed other than "caring about kids" and send their kids to talk about their problems? Online, no less. As for psalm 118...I think the bible was actually opened to a different psalm but psalm 118 was referenced because of the ransom note. The psalm I think the bible was opened to was something about vengeance about a friend who has betrayed or something like that. Interesting that the Ramsey's did live in Atlanta together before moving to Boulder.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:35 pm

Like so many other stories being thrown out to distract from (insert latest state crime against humanity here), this smells to me like a strategically-timed 'psycho-political event' meant to provide to the masses a sense of relief as Justice Accomplished For Our Kids Against the Savages. Just like the recent replay of the Bojinka multiple plane crash plot prevented by The Powers That Be and "here's your silver bullet, ma'am." Turned out that the British weren't on the same page with the US Department of Homeland inSecurity which needed some domestic distraction fast. So this is the kind of tabloid catharsis that can give the impressionable the impression that 'there is hope for our future in the face of so many horrors.' Seems quite calculated to me.

by **sunny** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:36 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Like so many other stories being thrown out to distract from (insert latest state crime against humanity here),<hr></blockquote> Well, it sure has knocked out coverage of the court decision against warrantless wiretaps.

by **Col Quisp** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:39 pm

I thought Fleet White was John Ramsey's friend? Why is he saying this: (quoting Prof. Pan) On November 17, 1999, Fleet and Priscilla White wrote a lengthy letter to the University of Colorado Board of Regents complaining that "that Mr. Tracey has (1) selfishly and irresponsibly used his position as a professional educator on the faculty of the University of Colorado to secure a commercially beneficial arrangement with the prime suspects in an ongoing murder investigation, (2) attempted to generate favorable public opinion for the Ramseys using biased, misleading and sensational television programs clumsily and unconvincingly disguised as academic work product, and (3) engaged in dishonest deceptive conduct in performing advocatory services for the Ramseys." The whole thing is vewy vewy stwange. I heard on the news this morning that the Ramseys never locked their doors because they lived in such a safe area, with only one homicide per year. I think the patsy has been brainwashed. He does bear a striking resemblance to Oswald. Well, at least it's a distraction from the ME apocalypse.

by **Avalon** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:49 pm

"The attorney said the Ramseys learned about the suspect a least a month before Patsy Ramsey's death on June 24 after a battle with ovarian cancer. "It's been a very long 10 years, and I'm just sorry Patsy isn't here for me to hug her neck," Wood said. It seems to be a known idiom, but in the context of JonBenet's death it creeps me out. <a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060813034842AAtTfgH">answers.yahoo.com/questio...842AAtTfgH</a>

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:54 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>John Mark Karr's correspondence with a professor who made documentaries on the JonBenet Ramsey case was key to his arrest in the decade-old slaying, a private investigator was quoted as saying. Karr, 41, arrested Wednesday in Bangkok, began an exchange of hundreds of e-mails with University of Colorado journalism professor Michael Tracey four years ago, revealing critical information about the 1996 killing of the 6-year-old beauty-pageant star, investigator Ollie Gray told the Rocky Mountain News. '(The suspect) talked about being there, about doing this and doing that, and knowing this and knowing that,' Gray said. 'He had a whole bunch of things that didn't come out before. It wasn't part of what the media was allowed to get at before.' Tracey produced three documentaries on the Boulder, Colorado, case and contended the girl's parents, John and Patsy Ramsey, were unfairly viewed as suspects. He worked closely with Gray, who had been hired by the Ramsey family, alongside former Colorado Springs police detective Lou Smit. Karr became interested in Tracey's documentary 'Who Killed JonBenet Ramsey?' and started an e-mail correspondence with him, Gray said. He said Tracey eventually became disturbed by Karr's writings and was encouraged to continue corresponding with him.<hr></blockquote> Who is "investigator Ollie Gray?" I'd like to know more about him as well as Karr who has an alibi. Hmmm. Emails are really the prime evidence against "the suspect?" Are they authentic or could they be generated to frame Karr? Did the moth that flew too close to the flame get opportunistically burned? Anyone remember how Claude Allen was suddenly booted from the White House as a domestic advisor with criminal charges against him for things appearing on his credit card bills and he didn't understand how they got there? DOH. Now I've forgotten all about Lebanon...

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