Anger, France pedophile trial

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Anger, France pedophile trial

Postby Peachtree Pam » Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:15 am

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hooded figures

Postby jenz » Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:14 am

No information emerged in the trial which untangled the web of paedophiles, the circuit of the funds used, the identity of the organisers, the identity of the "hooded figures", or the location of the photographs and videos taken during the criminal exploitation of the children. plus ca change? <p></p><i></i>
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Protected abuse - international aspects

Postby Peachtree Pam » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:12 pm

Jenz,<br><br>Don't know if you saw this series by Dave McGowan on the international protected pedophelia rings:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/Pedophocracy/child_sexual_abuse_in_Brussels.htm">www.the7thfire.com/Politi...ussels.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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information

Postby zDxv » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:55 am

Thanks PP. I did not know this site, though most of the material I have seen from other sources, it is good to see it all presented together. To sum up:- in the sphere of vicious crimes against children and young people by organised groups 1. only a very smal percentage are ever investigated. most plaintiffs find they get nowhere. (the UK police have a policy of not investigating complaints which they say result from 'recovered memory", whatever they take that to mean. 2. of this small percentage very few result in prosecution. 3. in prosecuted cases it has always been the small fry who are brought to book, the bigger fish have the net holed by their friends, or bump off the fishermen. 4. organised abuse and r.a. form of it, are used as political, financial and industrial blackmail to subvert democatic process and accountability. 5. org. abuse and r.a. are used to create funds , bigger than illegal drug trade, which in turn can be processed through favoured accounts to subvert fair free trade, genuine meritocratic moves, and be used for black ops etc. 6. a surprisingly large number of people are interested in the vicarious violence of the extreme pornography produced, and it further de-sensitises them, so that a considerable percentage themselves offend directly. 7. the techniques of the criminals are such that no ordinary citizen can protet his own family if they are targeted. 8. r.a. is linked to most criminal activities, including removal of witnesses. 9. the destructive effects on survivors causes a great burden on society, exploding welfare costs and costs of offender institutions for those who were abused as children and went on to offend the society which did not protect them. 10. the accumulation of these effects is undermining our society. 11. the few cases which come to court given the selectivity of media reporting merely serve to further dupe the public into thinking that things are under control, and that it happens a long way from them, to people who are not like them. What have I left out? <p></p><i></i>
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Sexual abuse

Postby Peachtre Pam » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:38 am

Don't think you left out anything. It is especially horrifying that an ordinary family, like that of Johnny Gotsch, can be targeted. It is one of the saddest stories I have ever read about, and look how his mother and father got nowhere trying to bring the perpetrators to book. <p></p><i></i>
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ordinary families

Postby jenz » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:53 pm

and many, many others, known only to support groups if at all. the vulnerability of ordinary families to this type of crime is total, abduction being only one of the ways in which a child is obtained. I abstracted in my list, left out the pain and horror for the victims, the direct victims and the indirect ones, family and friends, and the destruction wreaked on their lives. <p></p><i></i>
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