Pedophiles Love Star Trek?

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Pedophiles Love Star Trek?

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:24 pm

Found this over at the Huffington post, thought it was interesting, if odd.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ellen-ladowsky/pedophilia-and-star-trek_b_5857.html">www.huffingtonpost.com/el..._5857.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>clips<br>"The LA Times recently ran a story about the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit, which contained a mind-boggling statistic: of the more than 100 offenders the unit has arrested over the last four years, "all but one" has been "a hard-core Trekkie."'....<br><br><br>"..... Star Trek paraphernalia has so routinely been found at the homes of the pedophiles they've arrested that it has become a gruesome joke in the squad room. (On the wall, there is a Star Trek poster with the detectives' faces replacing those of the crew members). This does not mean that watching Star Trek makes you a pedophile. It does mean that if you're a pedophile, odds are you've watched a lot of Star Trek.<br><br>This is not the first time Star Trek has been linked to bizarre sexual practices. Those involved in the Heaven's Gate mass suicides in Rancho Sante Fe in March 1997 also purported themselves to be avid Star Trek fans. One may recall that the cult forced its members to wear unisex clothing, had a strict policy of celibacy, a ban on all sexual thoughts, and eight of the members had surgically castrated themselves.<br><br>So why would sexual deviants be attracted to Star Trek? The link between Star Trek and pedophilia is obscure, even to the detectives in the sex crimes unit...."<br> <p></p><i></i>
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It's gotta be the unforms n/t

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Re: Pedophiles Love Star Trek?

Postby Project Willow » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:01 pm

Weird, my father was also a Star Trek nut.<br><br>Source + grain of salt here:<br><br>Springmeier & Wheeler claim the later versions of Star Trek were used to trigger MC survivors, but I haven't heard any other confirmation. (Boeing, however, is a whole other ball of wax.) <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>"When I left Star Trek in 1968 it was a disaster. It was a failure as far as the network was concerned." That is because it didn’t make money. Hollywood tells us it makes these movies because they are what the public want and that they have to go where the money is--the closer truth is that Hollywood makes movies that push an agenda--Hollywood makes movies that Hollywood wants to make. And since Star Trek was part of the NWO’s mind-control, the show and it successors had to go on.<br><br>How important is Star Trek? A witness has talked about Boeing workers sneaking off their jobs and hiding in the tunnels underneath the huge Seattle Boeing plant so they could watch Star Trek shows. This enormous Boeing plant is used for rituals and mind-control. This Boeing building is enormous, for it is where they have assembly lines to build the huge jets, like the 747s, 707s, etc. An extensive maze of tunnels lays underneath the main building, large enough to accommodate all the tens of thousands of workers on any shift.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.whale.to/b/sp/12.html#Star_Trek,_The_Next_Generation_">www.whale.to/b/sp/12.html#Star_Trek,_The_Next_Generation_</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Pedophiles Love Star Trek?

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:30 pm

The article kind of ricochets off of this without really using the word, that I could see. The show was always pretty misogynist. What I'm wondering is if pedophiles see sex/intimacy with women as dangerous, toxic, therefore view children as sexually, intimately "safe". Still doesn't quite expalin it, though. <p></p><i></i>
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Whoa there

Postby Avalon » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:40 pm

Whoa there.<br><br>Could I ask that people posting articles that cry out for a little more context maybe explore that and post some further links before having people do instant analysis based on an incomplete understanding of the actual situation?<br><br>I followed some of the links here. The original LA Times article seems to be in their pay archives now. But some articulate and observant commentary and followup suggest not only that the figure originally given by the police was hyperbole, but that there are some specific issues regarding that police unit that should be factored in.<br><br>Check out Ernest Miller's 2 followups at Corante:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.corante.com/importance/archives/2005/05/04/star_trek_and_pedophilia_claim_followup.php">www.corante.com/importanc...llowup.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.corante.com/importance/archives/2005/05/30/hopefully_the_last_post_on_the_star_trekpedophilia_connection.php">www.corante.com/importanc...ection.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The Maclean's article:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.macleans.ca/topstories/justice/article.jsp?content=20050530_106573_106573">www.macleans.ca/topstorie...573_106573</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"One of the things they will be looking for is reports of suspects with sci-fi collections, especially Star Trek. Seto hypothesizes that the pedophiles might be using their toys and memorabilia to groom victims -- a view that Blanchard shares. "They have to adapt their strategies," he says. "Just like a regular heterosexual guy sets up situations to get women in sexual proximity."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Is there a world where "Wanna see my autographed Shatner photo and play Enterprise with my Kirk and Yeoman Rand dolls?" is a productive grooming tool? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I don't find the Ladowsky article at Huffington to be terribly useful or perceptive, but Miller's research and the comments at his blog are far better explorations of the issue.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Factoid time

Postby Avalon » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:02 pm

"Weekly viewership [of Star Trek The Next Generation] is in the 20 million range, bring in the most desirable of demographics."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.trekdoc.com/trivia.htm">www.trekdoc.com/trivia.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Star Trek did have the first Black-White kiss on television [aired on November 22, 1968], but it did not have the first inter-racial kiss. That was on I Spy, in the episode 'The Tiger,' shown on 1/5/66. The kiss was between Kelly Robinson (Robert Culp) and a Vietnamese woman named Sam (France Nuyen), with whom Kelly had clearly previously had a romantic relationship. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://people.ssh.fi/tri/hack_man_guide/episodes/PLATO_S_STEPCHILDREN.html">people.ssh.fi/tri/hack_ma...LDREN.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.trekdoc.com/trivia.htm">www.trekdoc.com/trivia.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Honest, I had to look these up, I'm not a Trekker. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Issac Asimov's Son, the Biggest Child Porn Processor In CA

Postby proldic » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:33 pm

HOW DAVID ASIMOV, THE BIGGEST CHILD PORN PROCESSOR IN CALIFORNIA SKATED AWAY FROM FEDERAL PRISON WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM HIS FRIENDS <br><br>by Kathryn Dixon <br><br>David Asimov, of Living Oak Court, Bennett Ridge, Santa Rosa, the son of the late science fiction writer Isaac Asimov, was sentenced on March 28, 2001 to six months' home detention with electronic monitoring and three years federal probation for possessing child pornography...Asimov who was charged with four federal counts of possession of child pornography with each count carrying a five year sentence, pled guilty to two counts in a plea bargain deal. There was no forfeiture of any of Asimov's assets in this case, despite his owning a home in Santa Rosa purchased in 1996 for $375,000, and despite his receiving $3,000 per month from his father's estate. <br><br>How did Asimov, who possessed one of the largest stashes of pornography in California, skate away from federal prison? A look at the players yields the answer.<br><br>Asimov's child porn stash was so big many child victims and perpetrators would have taken a fall, had Asimov been zealously prosecuted at trial.<br><br>Asimov would probably have escaped detection, if he had not taken his personal computer to a store when its scanner and color printer malfunctioned. A technician working on the machine discovered images of children engaged in sexual acts with adults...Asimov's case is not the only case where tips about child porn were generated by store technicians. It seems either child pornographers are stupid about fixing their computers or they are unwitting framed.<br><br>The police raided Asimov's four-bedroom home with a search warrant and discovered the largest child porn "processing center" ever discovered in California. <br><br>"There were thousands of disks, thousands of videos," said Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy, who personally referred to Asimov's home as a "processing center" for child pornography. "Anything imaginable regarding sex between human beings and human beings, or human beings and animals, was there. Whatever your imagination can conjure up, he had it. It was like walking into a TV studio"...<br> <br>...Asimov had 14 video machines arranged for high-speed editing and copying, and possessed cases of blank tapes. <br><br>..."He had a whole lot of editing and mass production capabilities," Santa Rosa Police officer Zamudio said. "We were greeted by thousands of tapes, disks, periodicals, and commercial videos with covers showing child pornography. We spent two days collecting, packaging, and transporting all the items." <br><br>The Sonoma County District Attorney J. Michael Mullins covered up the case, let the public believe the feds would prosecute it more thoroughly, and then passed the cover up to U.S. Attorney Mueller.<br><br>In March 1998, Asimov was arrested in Sonoma County and charged with two counts of felony exploitation of a child and possession of pornography. Asimov faced a maximum state penalty of six years. The identity of the child whom Asimov alleged exploited was never revealed to the public. Parents and associates of the child never came forward. Was there a secret settlement in the style of Michael Jackson? Was any effort at all made to identify the children in the tapes? In Europe, parents who are looking for their missing children or for evidence of child abuse are allowed to view pictures of faces of children depicted in porno tapes which are seized by the police. No one in Sonoma County reported any photo arrays seized from Asimov's home being shown by the police to any parents whose children were exploited or kidnapped. <br><br>Asimov was arraigned in Sonoma County Municipal Court, with bail set at $250,000...a few days later, Judge Frank Passalacqua released Asimov after having been told no local victims were identified in the porn seized from Asimov's home. Thus, within only a few days of his arrest, Asimov was released, because the police happened to know no local victims were involved. How could they have known so fast? Obviously, the Sonoma County Court didn't care that victims who were not "local" may have been involved. Someone's child was on those tapes.<br><br>"As far as local victims, we don't know of any. There are some homemade tapes,'' Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy told the judge. Why was a distinction made by the Sonoma County Judge and District Attorney regarding determining if Asimov's tapes involved "local" victims as opposed to non-local victims? What did District Attorney Mullins consider to be "local"?...Medvigy also acknowledged to Judge Passalacqua that the investigation was still in its infancy because of the massive amount of material taken from Asimov's house. Despite the investigation being in its "infancy", Judge Passalacqua set Asimov loose. <br><br>By releasing Asimov on his own recognizance, the Sonoma County Judge and prosecutor made it clear that they considered the case to be light weight. There was no pressure on Asimov to turn in any of his confederates or to spill the beans...Asimov was ordered released on the condition he stay away from children, computers and the Internet. The public was expected to feel safe because Passalacqua sternly told Asimov he would have to comply with a list of conditions, including observing a curfew and allowing a probation officer to search his house at any time, and would have to take random chemical tests and engage in psychological counseling.<br><br>In July 1998, before a preliminary hearing commenced which would have put the massive amount of evidence before the public, suddenly Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy announced that U.S. Attorney's Office in San Francisco agreed to prosecute Asimov, 46, thus relieving Sonoma County of the prosecution. Sonoma Superior Court Judge Frank Passalacqua "conditionally'' dismissed the two felony charges against Asimov related to distributing child pornography. Passalacqua stated the charges were dismissed only so federal authorities could file their case and would be reinstated in 30 days if for some reason federal authorities did not proceed. <br><br>Medvigy tried to convince the public that the reason for the dismissal was that his office was limited in its ability to investigate the sources and possible distribution of the ``enormous'' amount of child pornography found in Asimov's home. Medvigy also cited the fact that much of Asimov's porn came from the internet and involved out-of-state and international sources, which made it more appropriate for federal authorities to take over. At this point, J. Michael Mullins apparently wanted the public to believe that the federal government was going to do a much more extensive prosecution of Asimov than Sonoma County authorities were able to do. <br><br>However, Asimov's attorney shed light on the true reason for the dismissal. Chris Andrian said he believed Sonoma County prosecutors handed the case to the feds because they had weak evidence of any felony being committed...<br> <br>Deputy District Attorney Medvigy stated about the dismissal, "We had hoped to show that it was not just for his personal viewing pleasure.''... <br><br>...District Attorney J. Michael Mullins, washed his hands of the matter very carefully...<br> <br>Asimov was indicted by a federal grand jury in November 1999 on four counts of possessing images of child pornography. Because the grand jury transcript has not been released to the public, the public cannot determine whether evidence of distribution and sale of pornography was ever presented by the U.S. Attorney. <br>Did the grand jury see all 1000 videotapes of horrendous child pornography found in Asimov's home? If so, why did they only find four instances where pornography was possessed by Asimov? Did the grand jury see any evidence that Asimov transmitted or received the pornography via the internet on his computer, or manufactured it with his cameras, 14 video machines and high tech scanner? Who were the little children depicted on the tapes? Was the grand jury given any explanation by U.S. Attorney Mueller?<br><br>In December 1999, Asimov pled not guilty in federal court, and was released on his own recognizance...<br> <br>The two previous charges in Sonoma County, included distribution of child pornography and felony exploitation of a child. The federal indictment did not include these charges, and only included lesser charges that Asimov possessed child pornography by downloading images from the Internet into his computer and onto a floppy disk. The federal charges also included the possession of one videocassette and one foreign magazine with images of children engaged in sex acts. Each of the four federal counts carried a potential sentence of five years in prison. <br><br>In the summer of 1999, U.S. Attorney Mueller engaged in plea deal with Asimov, by dropping two counts...<br> <br>Mueller dropped the ball on the Asimov case. Because of the sealed grand jury testimony and sealed evidence, the public will never know the details about the one thousand of images of child pornography Asimov used and created and stored. The public is expected to believe that Asimov never distributed any of this pornography. From whom did he obtain this pornography. No public evidentiary hearings were ever held. Mueller did a good job protecting child pornographers in California.<br><br>Judge Maxine Chesney let Asimov skate federal prison by using psychiatric evidence as a basis for the sentence.<br><br>Ultimately, U.S. District Judge Maxine Mackler Chesney gave Asimov an incredibly light sentence. No prison. The plea bargain limited her sentencing options, yet she still could have sent Asimov to prison for several years. Instead, she took the road laid out for her by various psychiatrists. Asimov's attorney Andrian hired psychiatrists to examine his client. Then Judge Chesney, herself, appointed a psychiatrist to examine Asimov. Apparently, the psychiatric reports about Asimov and all his problems were somewhat convincing, or at least established a basis in the record for such a light sentence. The public will never know. These reports are sealed...<br><br>Judge Chesney was nominated...[to the CA Supreme Court]. Judge Chesney served on the San Francisco Superior Court Bench prior to her appointment. <br><br>It is clear that Judge Chesney by this sentencing decision has signaled that public that even the biggest pornography processor in California can walk free on the streets...<br><br>...Asimov's lawyer Chris Andrian, who has represented many child molesters in Northern California, promoted the theory that his client was a reclusive man. After his sentencing, Andrian said Asimov's arrest made him "look inside himself and try to figure out how he got there," even before Judge Chesney ordered counseling. <br><br>The following are various statements made by Andrian throughout the Asimov case. One can only conclude that Andrian utilized effect mind-control techniques on the public and on the District Attorney, U.S. Attorney and the courts by making statements to make his client look less than totally evil and by making it as easy as possible for the authorities to let his client skate away from serving a federal prison term.<br><br>Andrian said:<br><br>"My take on the guy is that he's a reclusive introvert. If he did any of this it was in the confines of his own home ... It may have been a fantasy world.'' (At the time of Asimov's arrest.)<br><br>"There's no evidence he sold or distributed to any third person." (When Judge Passalacqua dismissed the Sonoma County case against Asimov.)<br><br>Andrian said he believes only a fraction of the material seized by police contains child pornography and many of the videos are for classic TV fare such as ``I Love Lucy'' and `Leave it to Beaver.''...<br><br>Andrian said he has seen limited police reports, but ``he (Asimov) doesn't strike me as in the business of proliferating stuff to others.''|<br><br> Andrian said Asimov gets ``a stipend,'' but said he did not know the amount.<br><br>"I don't know of any evidence that he's selling it (child pornography) anywhere. I don't know that he needs to.''<br><br>"I don't think they ever uncovered any evidence of intent to duplicate or disseminate (child pornography) to any third person. If they had, it would have been charged in federal court.''<br><br>"In the worst-case scenario, if they prove their case, the guy is a consumer, not a producer.''...<br><br>...U.S. Attorney Mueller, District Attorney J. Michael Mullins, the Santa Rosa Police, the FBI and U.S. District Court Judge Maxine Chesney all taught Mr. Asimov his lesson. They also taught a lesson to the children depicted in Asimov's 1000 video tapes, who suffered during the making of these brutal sexual exploitation tapes. These children, unlike Asimov, will not be able to put this matter behind them. Their fate, if they are still alive, makes Asimov's six-month sentence of six months of sitting at his home with an electronic monitoring bracelet on his ankle, look like a day at the beach.<br><br>HOW DAVID ASIMOV, THE BIGGEST CHILD PORN PROCESSOR IN CALIFORNIA SKATED AWAY FROM FEDERAL PRISON WITH A LITTLE HELP FROM HIS FRIENDS <br><br>by Kathryn Dixon <br><br>David Asimov, of Living Oak Court, Bennett Ridge, Santa Rosa, the son of the late science fiction writer Isaac Asimov, was sentenced on March 28, 2001 to six months' home detention with electronic monitoring and three years federal probation for possessing child pornography...Asimov who was charged with four federal counts of possession of child pornography with each count carrying a five year sentence, pled guilty to two counts in a plea bargain deal. There was no forfeiture of any of Asimov's assets in this case, despite his owning a home in Santa Rosa purchased in 1996 for $375,000, and despite his receiving $3,000 per month from his father's estate. <br><br>How did Asimov, who possessed one of the largest stashes of pornography in California, skate away from federal prison? A look at the players yields the answer.<br><br>Asimov's child porn stash was so big many child victims and perpetrators would have taken a fall, had Asimov been zealously prosecuted at trial.<br><br>Asimov would probably have escaped detection, if he had not taken his personal computer to a store when its scanner and color printer malfunctioned. A technician working on the machine discovered images of children engaged in sexual acts with adults...Asimov's case is not the only case where tips about child porn were generated by store technicians. It seems either child pornographers are stupid about fixing their computers or they are unwitting framed.<br><br>The police raided Asimov's four-bedroom home with a search warrant and discovered the largest child porn "processing center" ever discovered in California. <br><br>"There were thousands of disks, thousands of videos," said Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy, who personally referred to Asimov's home as a "processing center" for child pornography. "Anything imaginable regarding sex between human beings and human beings, or human beings and animals, was there. Whatever your imagination can conjure up, he had it. It was like walking into a TV studio"...<br> <br>...Asimov had 14 video machines arranged for high-speed editing and copying, and possessed cases of blank tapes. <br><br>..."He had a whole lot of editing and mass production capabilities," Santa Rosa Police officer Zamudio said. "We were greeted by thousands of tapes, disks, periodicals, and commercial videos with covers showing child pornography. We spent two days collecting, packaging, and transporting all the items." <br><br>The Sonoma County District Attorney J. Michael Mullins covered up the case, let the public believe the feds would prosecute it more thoroughly, and then passed the cover up to U.S. Attorney Mueller.<br><br>In March 1998, Asimov was arrested in Sonoma County and charged with two counts of felony exploitation of a child and possession of pornography. Asimov faced a maximum state penalty of six years. The identity of the child whom Asimov alleged exploited was never revealed to the public. Parents and associates of the child never came forward. Was there a secret settlement in the style of Michael Jackson? Was any effort at all made to identify the children in the tapes? In Europe, parents who are looking for their missing children or for evidence of child abuse are allowed to view pictures of faces of children depicted in porno tapes which are seized by the police. No one in Sonoma County reported any photo arrays seized from Asimov's home being shown by the police to any parents whose children were exploited or kidnapped. <br><br>Asimov was arraigned in Sonoma County Municipal Court, with bail set at $250,000...a few days later, Judge Frank Passalacqua released Asimov after having been told no local victims were identified in the porn seized from Asimov's home. Thus, within only a few days of his arrest, Asimov was released, because the police happened to know no local victims were involved. How could they have known so fast? Obviously, the Sonoma County Court didn't care that victims who were not "local" may have been involved. Someone's child was on those tapes.<br><br>"As far as local victims, we don't know of any. There are some homemade tapes,'' Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy told the judge. Why was a distinction made by the Sonoma County Judge and District Attorney regarding determining if Asimov's tapes involved "local" victims as opposed to non-local victims? What did District Attorney Mullins consider to be "local"?...Medvigy also acknowledged to Judge Passalacqua that the investigation was still in its infancy because of the massive amount of material taken from Asimov's house. Despite the investigation being in its "infancy", Judge Passalacqua set Asimov loose. <br><br>By releasing Asimov on his own recognizance, the Sonoma County Judge and prosecutor made it clear that they considered the case to be light weight. There was no pressure on Asimov to turn in any of his confederates or to spill the beans...Asimov was ordered released on the condition he stay away from children, computers and the Internet. The public was expected to feel safe because Passalacqua sternly told Asimov he would have to comply with a list of conditions, including observing a curfew and allowing a probation officer to search his house at any time, and would have to take random chemical tests and engage in psychological counseling.<br><br>In July 1998, before a preliminary hearing commenced which would have put the massive amount of evidence before the public, suddenly Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy announced that U.S. Attorney's Office in San Francisco agreed to prosecute Asimov, 46, thus relieving Sonoma County of the prosecution. Sonoma Superior Court Judge Frank Passalacqua "conditionally'' dismissed the two felony charges against Asimov related to distributing child pornography. Passalacqua stated the charges were dismissed only so federal authorities could file their case and would be reinstated in 30 days if for some reason federal authorities did not proceed. <br><br>Medvigy tried to convince the public that the reason for the dismissal was that his office was limited in its ability to investigate the sources and possible distribution of the ``enormous'' amount of child pornography found in Asimov's home. Medvigy also cited the fact that much of Asimov's porn came from the internet and involved out-of-state and international sources, which made it more appropriate for federal authorities to take over. At this point, J. Michael Mullins apparently wanted the public to believe that the federal government was going to do a much more extensive prosecution of Asimov than Sonoma County authorities were able to do. <br><br>However, Asimov's attorney shed light on the true reason for the dismissal. Chris Andrian said he believed Sonoma County prosecutors handed the case to the feds because they had weak evidence of any felony being committed...<br> <br>Deputy District Attorney Medvigy stated about the dismissal, "We had hoped to show that it was not just for his personal viewing pleasure.''... <br><br>...District Attorney J. Michael Mullins, washed his hands of the matter very carefully...<br> <br>Asimov was indicted by a federal grand jury in November 1999 on four counts of possessing images of child pornography. Because the grand jury transcript has not been released to the public, the public cannot determine whether evidence of distribution and sale of pornography was ever presented by the U.S. Attorney. <br>Did the grand jury see all 1000 videotapes of horrendous child pornography found in Asimov's home? If so, why did they only find four instances where pornography was possessed by Asimov? Did the grand jury see any evidence that Asimov transmitted or received the pornography via the internet on his computer, or manufactured it with his cameras, 14 video machines and high tech scanner? Who were the little children depicted on the tapes? Was the grand jury given any explanation by U.S. Attorney Mueller?<br><br>In December 1999, Asimov pled not guilty in federal court, and was released on his own recognizance...<br> <br>The two previous charges in Sonoma County, included distribution of child pornography and felony exploitation of a child. The federal indictment did not include these charges, and only included lesser charges that Asimov possessed child pornography by downloading images from the Internet into his computer and onto a floppy disk. The federal charges also included the possession of one videocassette and one foreign magazine with images of children engaged in sex acts. Each of the four federal counts carried a potential sentence of five years in prison. <br><br>In the summer of 1999, U.S. Attorney Mueller engaged in plea deal with Asimov, by dropping two counts...<br> <br>Mueller dropped the ball on the Asimov case. Because of the sealed grand jury testimony and sealed evidence, the public will never know the details about the one thousand of images of child pornography Asimov used and created and stored. The public is expected to believe that Asimov never distributed any of this pornography. From whom did he obtain this pornography. No public evidentiary hearings were ever held. Mueller did a good job protecting child pornographers in California.<br><br>Judge Maxine Chesney let Asimov skate federal prison by using psychiatric evidence as a basis for the sentence.<br><br>Ultimately, U.S. District Judge Maxine Mackler Chesney gave Asimov an incredibly light sentence. No prison. The plea bargain limited her sentencing options, yet she still could have sent Asimov to prison for several years. Instead, she took the road laid out for her by various psychiatrists. Asimov's attorney Andrian hired psychiatrists to examine his client. Then Judge Chesney, herself, appointed a psychiatrist to examine Asimov. Apparently, the psychiatric reports about Asimov and all his problems were somewhat convincing, or at least established a basis in the record for such a light sentence. The public will never know. These reports are sealed...<br><br>Judge Chesney was nominated...[to the CA Supreme Court]. Judge Chesney served on the San Francisco Superior Court Bench prior to her appointment. <br><br>It is clear that Judge Chesney by this sentencing decision has signaled that public that even the biggest pornography processor in California can walk free on the streets...<br><br>...Asimov's lawyer Chris Andrian, who has represented many child molesters in Northern California, promoted the theory that his client was a reclusive man. After his sentencing, Andrian said Asimov's arrest made him "look inside himself and try to figure out how he got there," even before Judge Chesney ordered counseling. <br><br>The following are various statements made by Andrian throughout the Asimov case. One can only conclude that Andrian utilized effect mind-control techniques on the public and on the District Attorney, U.S. Attorney and the courts by making statements to make his client look less than totally evil and by making it as easy as possible for the authorities to let his client skate away from serving a federal prison term.<br><br>Andrian said:<br><br>"My take on the guy is that he's a reclusive introvert. If he did any of this it was in the confines of his own home ... It may have been a fantasy world.'' (At the time of Asimov's arrest.)<br><br>"There's no evidence he sold or distributed to any third person." (When Judge Passalacqua dismissed the Sonoma County case against Asimov.)<br><br>Andrian said he believes only a fraction of the material seized by police contains child pornography and many of the videos are for classic TV fare such as ``I Love Lucy'' and `Leave it to Beaver.''...<br><br>Andrian said he has seen limited police reports, but ``he (Asimov) doesn't strike me as in the business of proliferating stuff to others.''|<br><br> Andrian said Asimov gets ``a stipend,'' but said he did not know the amount.<br><br>"I don't know of any evidence that he's selling it (child pornography) anywhere. I don't know that he needs to.''<br><br>"I don't think they ever uncovered any evidence of intent to duplicate or disseminate (child pornography) to any third person. If they had, it would have been charged in federal court.''<br><br>"In the worst-case scenario, if they prove their case, the guy is a consumer, not a producer.''<br><br>Andrian disputes that the amount of child porn was that high, saying Asimov was a collector of all types of videos, including classic TV fare such as ``Ozzie and Harriet'' and ``My Three Sons.'' (Source: Santa Rosa Press Democrat.)<br><br>"I want to believe (Asimov) can put this behind him, that he learned his lesson and knows it's not appropriate.'' <br>U.S. Attorney Mueller, District Attorney J. Michael Mullins, the Santa Rosa Police, the FBI and U.S. District Court Judge Maxine Chesney all taught Mr. Asimov his lesson. They also taught a lesson to the children depicted in Asimov's 1000 video tapes, who suffered during the making of these brutal sexual exploitation tapes. These children, unlike Asimov, will not be able to put this matter behind them. Their fate, if they are still alive, makes Asimov's six-month sentence of six months of sitting at his home with an electronic monitoring bracelet on his ankle, look like a day at the beach.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://newsmakingnews.com/asimov3,29,01.htm">newsmakingnews.com/asimov3,29,01.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Issac Asimov's Son, the Biggest Child Porn Processor In

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Aug 19, 2005 8:58 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In Europe, parents who are looking for their missing children or for evidence of child abuse are allowed to view pictures of faces of children depicted in porno tapes which are seized by the police.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Damned good idea. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Issac Asimov's Son, the Biggest Child Porn Processor In

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:16 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The police raided Asimov's four-bedroom home with a search warrant and discovered the largest child porn "processing center" ever discovered in California. <br><br>"There were thousands of disks, thousands of videos," said Sonoma County Deputy District Attorney Gary Medvigy, who personally referred to Asimov's home as a "processing center" for child pornography. "Anything imaginable regarding sex between human beings and human beings, or human beings and animals, was there. Whatever your imagination can conjure up, he had it. It was like walking into a TV studio"...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Andrian said he believes only a fraction of the material seized by police contains child pornography and many of the videos are for classic TV fare such as ``I Love Lucy'' and `Leave it to Beaver.''...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>These reports are sealed...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I would say that not all the reports needed to be sealed, if only a "fraction" involved child pornography. I wonder if all the classics were sealed along with the rest. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Whoa there

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:46 pm

Avalon, as far as "instant analysis", I think the only comment that qualifies for that is MY observation that the show was misogynist. As far as I was concerned, the show always reeked of it. Makes me wonder what portion of the Trekkies are female. Sorry if I mixed in my own opinions of the show. <p></p><i></i>
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Trek Fems

Postby ZeroHaven » Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:05 pm

Don't forget, most of the slash fiction is made by Trek Chicks.. there's plenty of em.<br><br>Did anybody notice that even the cops had a Trek poster in their office... <br>Couldn't that imply that the fandom level in that region is so high they'd be hard pressed to find ANY criminal that wasn't a fan? If even the cops are in on it..<br>I wonder how they mean 'hard-core' too. I own a B'Atlith because I like sharp objects.. hardly qualifies me as a Trek fan.<br>*shrug* interesting story. <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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Re: Trek Fems

Postby chiggerbit » Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:11 pm

All dogs are animals, not all animals are dogs. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: David Asimov

Postby starroute » Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:00 am

David Asimov was never a science fiction fan. He might have been better off if he had been -- at least, he might have had a closer relationship with his father.<br><br>David was deeply screwed up by the time he was an adolescent. I never knew Isaac Asimov well enough to know the details, but it was obvious that he doted on his daughter and had no idea how to communicate with his son.<br><br>Science fiction fans can get pretty weird at times -- and furry fans are far weirder -- but pedophilia isn't generally part of the catalog. <p></p><i></i>
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Ladowsky's message: Assimilate or die...resistance is futile

Postby ARV » Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:20 am

What else was on American TV when Star Trek was on the air in 1966? <br><br>Does anyone remember that television standards in regards to any sexual expression were and have always been puritanical. This was the age of Lawrence Welk, Ed Sullivan, Dick Van Dyke and other "traditional values" oriented programming. Star Trek was seen as a revolutionary show for its time--most science fiction tends to buck the establishment. Star Trek became the establishment over 4 decades and countless series and films. <br><br>By jumping to such conclusions about Star Trek fans, she does a disservice to all people who have an alternative viewpoint from the mainstream--we could therefore use her arguments to debunk every real-life conspiracy theory or debunk any thought of intelligent life in different universes or dimensions. <p></p><i></i>
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Instant analysis

Postby Avalon » Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:26 am

"Avalon, as far as "instant analysis", I think the only comment that qualifies for that is MY observation that the show was misogynist." -- chiggerbit<br><br>It wasn't yours I was thinking of, so much as having just done a lot of looking into the "laptop riots" background and finding that more information really made a difference as to culpability for the riot. I wanted to forestall instant "opinions" about what might be an incendiary topic, or at least one that would circulate further based on shallow knowledge of what was going on there.<br><br>"The show" Um, which show? The original was as sexist as its time (which is to say, plenty), and later shows set in the Star Trek universe had far more egalitarian dynamics. I think it's wrong to lump all iterations of it together, and the original article and followups don't seem to show that anyone was able to quantify which Star Trek manifestion might have been more prominent, if any. Let alone whether the officers involved would have been able to perceive sub-culture clues that weren't as mainstream as "Star Trek" would have been.<br><br>BTW, I recall that one of the Star Trek movies (maybe Wrath of Khan?) startled me not just with the pervasive casting of Enterprise women staffers with really big boobs, but the guys that were cast all had really prominent man-boobs.<br><br>Maybe it was a Roddenberry thing. Or maybe it was The Nine working through him?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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