by Joe Hillshoist » Tue Jul 18, 2006 8:10 am
Sorry this won't go on the thread. Its a reply to your response blanc<br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>will they allow 12year olds to vote as to whether they want the freedom to serve pervs?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Its the age of consent. No still means NO.<br><br>They don't need to vote they just need to say piss off you ugly bastard.<br><br>There is a difference between rape and statutory rape. One involves an act of power and the ignoring of the other person's wishes.<br><br>The other is based on a manipulation of someone who is not an adult, and therefore not necessarily capable of making decisions in a mature way.<br><br>They are not promoting the right to kidnap 12 year olds and then torture and rape them.(Rape) Just the right to try and seduce them.(Statutary rape)<br><br>Now I once saw a piece of grafitti that said "Romance - Rape by seduction"<br><br>But that is a view I don't hold to. (Mind you I don't want to seduce 12 year olds. I would actually consider that rape).<br><br>Look they are scum, but they are trying to make sexual consent something you can give at 12.<br><br>Sexual consent is given at 16 to 18 in our culture, about the time many other adult rights or privileges become available too, such as driving a car, drinking, smoking, legal responsibility in a civil and criminal sense.<br><br>It is obviously an adult thing. Sure teenagers fuck around, even 12 year old school kids. But so long as they do it with other kids their own age its not really a problem for me. If it were my kids maybe, cos I don't think its right that kids have sex at 12. But they do. Nothing I say or do will stop that.<br><br>And that will probably be part of the argument these dutch pervs use.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> they do it anyway we want in on the action<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Which is crap cos they are still effectively Kids, playing. They don't really understand what sex is about, or how powerful it is.<br><br>But as offensive as what they pedos are proposing is, they are not committing crimes that harm individual victims by saying it. The harm lies in the action. If pedos JUST fantasised and jerked off in their own rooms or dunnys no one would be harmed. (I know they don't and if they do its not all they do but ) The harm is in the inflicting it on someone else.<br><br>I smoke pot but its illegal. there are no victims except perhaps me. But I don't see myself as one.<br><br>A crime is committed when an act that harms someone else occurs (Oh and IMO looking at a photo of a child in sexual activity or for sexual arousal does harm them in some weird esoteric way, even if its over the net on the other side of the world. And diminishes them as people.)<br><br>You cannot say "you cannot think this or express this idea", well you can if you want, but it is against freedom. Freedom is exactly that. Freedom. (as the ants said Horrible horrible freedom)<br><br>You can make a law preventing someone from acting on it and then enforce it, as a measure to protect society. (Fuck I'm turning into a reformed anarchist).<br><br>BTW There is no way a 12 year old is mature enough to have sex IMO. <br><br>They are certainly not mature enough to have sex with someone over 15.<br><br>I mean where is this argument going. Should we organise premptive jailing for life if we suspect someone may commit peadophillia in the future? Thats getting dangerously close to Bush's anti terror attitude.<br><br>These scumbags have probaly committed crimes against children. But until you can provide evidence against them that will convict them, the only comeback you have is to kill them yourself. Or cut their knobs off.<br><br>And personally I think thats how it should be. But if you kill someone yourself and they haven't committed a crime, your suspicion was wrong. And you have committed a crime yourself. You can't bring a dead person back.<br><br>Besides our society isn't that fucked, - they won't get in. Or if they do, perhaps its time to start subscribing to the Georgia guidestones view. <p></p><i></i>
