The murder of attorney Daniel Horowitz's wife gets bizarre

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Re: The Fayette Factor

Postby FourthBase » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:03 pm

Loren Coleman rocks.<br><br>Jeff, any chance of any interview re: the phantom clowns? <p></p><i></i>
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Transcript -- Horowitz on Nancy Grace

Postby Nonny » Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:38 pm

Oct. 14, 2005<br><br>GRACE: Well, joining us tonight, the defense attorney on the case, you`ve met him many times before on our program, Daniel Horowitz. Now, listen, you may disagree with him, but at least he`s not just another talking head. He`s in that courtroom, fighting for his client, who, by the way, miraculously, Daniel, escaped unscathed, not a single scratch. But her husband had, what, 26, 27 slice wounds?<br><br>DANIEL HOROWITZ, SUSAN POLK`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, Nancy, I`m holding up 27 fingers, if you think there were 27 stab wounds. Their own medical examiner said there were one, two, three, four, five significant stab wounds. Everything else...<br><br>GRACE: You said significant, but what about the other wounds?<br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, they`re scratches. They`re nicks. They`re really nothing...<br><br>GRACE: From the knife?<br><br>HOROWITZ: ... that you wouldn`t even -- from the knife. But you -- if you ran through a thicket of thistles, you would get those kinds of scratches.<br><br>GRACE: OK! I notice that your client doesn`t have any thistle scratches at all. Daniel, I`ve got to go...<br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, actually, she does, Nancy.<br><br>GRACE: I got to go to a quick break.<br><br>(CROSSTALK)<br><br>GRACE: But Daniel Horowitz will be with us when we get back.<br><br>Tonight, I want to tell you all about a very important new resource for crime victims, Victim Power. It provides a new technology on line allowing anyone, victims, witnesses, to report crimes and remain 100 percent anonymous. Police, prosecutors can receive reports, even enter into dialogue with victims and witnesses while they are anonymous. You can access this important site on line, Victimpower.org.<br><br>(COMMERCIAL BREAK)<br><br>GRACE: She claims she drove all the way from Montana to California to, quote, "settle the divorce." I don`t know. I thought lawyers could do that.<br><br>Quickly, out to investigative reporter Jane Velez-Mitchell. Before we go back to defense lawyer Dan Horowitz, Jane, explain to me the wounds on the body. I understand that he sustained 27 stab wounds, 22 lacerations, and she had none.<br><br>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, basically, what the coroner`s report said is that there were five major stab wounds to the man`s body, in the chest and the abdomen. The rest of those wounds are defensive wounds on his hands and feet, as if he were fighting off an attacker. And by the way, a very significant piece of evidence -- her hair is found gripped, strands of her hair found gripped in his hand, his clenched fist.<br><br>GRACE: In one hand or both hands?<br><br>VELEZ-MITCHELL: I don`t think it`s both hands, but I think it might have been one hand.<br><br>GRACE: Because, interesting, if it were both hands, that would show he was totally unarmed throughout. And also, defensive wounds can occur when someone has fallen down and they`re horizontal and they`re balling up.<br><br>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, especially with the feet.<br><br>GRACE: That`s my experience...<br><br>VELEZ-MITCHELL: He`s kicking up with his feet.<br><br>GRACE: That`s my experience with defensive wounds on victims` bodies, on the knee, leg and feet.<br><br>Quick break, everybody, but we`ll all be right back. As you know, we want very much to help solve unsolved homicides, help find missing people. Tonight, look at 11-year-old Joshua Weintraub, last seen, Midland, Virginia, August 29. His birthday is Sunday. Please, help us bring Joshua home in time to celebrate. If you have info on Joshua Weintraub, call Fairfax County police, 703-691-2131, or go to Beyondmissing.com. Please help us.<br><br>(COMMERCIAL BREAK)<br><br>THOMAS ROBERTS, CNN HEADLINE NEWS ANCHOR: Hi, everybody. I`m Thomas Roberts, and this is your "Headline Prime Newsbreak."<br><br>Much of Baghdad is in the dark, after insurgents sabotaged power lines, knocking out electricity to about 70 percent of the city. Water was also out in certain areas because the pumps just wouldn`t work. The blackout comes on the eve of a national constitutional referendum. <br><br>The search for survivors from last weekend`s massive earthquake in Asia has come to an end. Authorities estimate more than 23,000 people were killed in Pakistan, with 1,300 more deaths reported in India. The Pakistani president says nearly 2.5 million people are feared homeless. Today, President Bush visited the Pakistani embassy to sign a condolence book and offer assistance. <br><br>Acting New Jersey Governor Richard Codey has declared a state of emergency in response to rising floodwaters. Coty says more than 500 residents have evacuated. Today is the eighth straight day of rain in parts of the northeast, and forecasters are predicting another two to three inches of rain by tomorrow alone. <br><br>That is the news for now. Thanks for joining us. I`m Thomas Roberts. And we take you back for more of NANCY GRACE. <br><br>(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) <br><br>JIM MORET, CORRESPONDENT, "INSIDE EDITION": Do you believe your mom is innocent? <br><br>ELI POLK, SON OF ACCUSED MOTHER: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. <br><br>MORET: How do you feel knowing that one of your children, Eli, is going to be taking the stand in your defense and Gabriel is going to be taking the stand for the prosecution? <br><br>SUSAN POLK, ACCUSED OF MURDERING HUSBAND: It`s a devastating experience to have a child make accusations, you know, against a parent. <br><br>(END VIDEO CLIP)<br><br>GRACE: Today in a California courtroom, battle rages on. She says self-defense. The prosecution says murder. <br><br>Now, back to the defense attorney in this case, Daniel Horowitz. Daniel, explain to me again how it is that he has all of these lacerations. According to the autopsy report, 26 to 27 lacerations, including five stab wounds to the chest and abdomen, and she has none. <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, Nancy, actually, I`m very proud of our Contra Costa County sheriff`s department, because, even though they were looking at this as if she were the perpetrator, they did note -- and they will testify -- that she had cuts on both of her hands, on her upper arms, that she had a black eye, and actually they then took a photo of two black eyes. So she did suffer injuries, Nancy. <br><br>GRACE: Where on her hands were the cuts exactly? <br><br>HOROWITZ: OK, the cuts on her hands look like a bite mark. There`s actually one inside -- it looks like he was trying to bite her hand to get the knife out. This cut`s on top of her left hand and on her upper arms, Nancy. <br><br>GRACE: OK. Let me just think about that for one moment. You`re telling me she`s got a bite mark and she`s got a cut on the outside of her hand? <br><br>HOROWITZ: Yes, on the top of her left hand. <br><br>GRACE: Top of the left hand. Well, I don`t know about you, Daniel, but that clearly shows to me that that was while she was holding the knife. <br><br>HOROWITZ: Probably, Nancy. She won this battle, where nobody should have died. And it`s unfortunate that he died. But, you know, Nancy...<br><br>GRACE: Well, he never had the knife in his hand. <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, that`s one point of view. And Jane set forth the prosecution case to date as they`re doing. But I disagree. <br><br>I believe that the physical evidence will show that she was on her back with the knife and he was on top of her. And I think that will be shown by the blood evidence and by the angle of the knife wounds on his body. <br><br>But that`s a battle to be fought in the courtroom. But keep an open mind, because we have very good experts on both sides. <br><br>GRACE: Yes, I know the battle is in the courtroom. That`s when you are starting to filibuster, Daniel Horowitz. I know you. <br><br>Now, listen. You say she`s on the bottom with a knife. Can you put the knife in his hand at any time? <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, Nancy, except by her testimony, there`s no physical evidence that puts the knife in her hand, which is a difficult thing for us. But the angles of the knife wounds to him, they`re not dead center, as if a man was being stabbed repeatedly. They`re scattered around his body. <br><br>(LAUGHTER)<br><br>GRACE: Oh, Daniel, Daniel, I respect you deeply. I give you a lot of credit for this argument. It`s creative. It`s totally -- Renee, what would you do with this? <br><br>ROCKWELL: What I`d do with it is rewind the hands of time and make sure she doesn`t say anything. What has she done? She`s committed herself to a self-defense theory. But then again, if she says that he attacked her, and she`s defending herself, why didn`t she call 911? She did nothing. She waits 24 hours, and the son discovers him. <br><br>GRACE: And then, to Caryn Stark, psychotherapist, Caryn, almost immediately after she learns that her payments are going to be slashed by over 50 percent, and that her husband, the psychologist, gets custody of the remaining teenage boy, she gets in a vehicle and drives, drives herself from Montana to California. <br><br>Now, Caryn, how much stewing do you think she did on the road from Montana to California? <br><br>CARYN STARK, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: I think she did a lot of stewing, Nancy. And if you think about the fact that a lot of people are saying because she was so young when she met him -- she was 14 -- which is totally illegal what he did, the involvement that they had, nonetheless...<br><br>GRACE: Well, fine, he can go to jail for statutory rape, but, uh-oh, he`s dead. <br><br>STARK: And that`s my exact -- he may be culpable of that. But this woman was able to even say that she wanted to have a divorce. She did the drive. It clearly -- Daniel makes me laugh, because he said, "Well, it`s only five major stab wounds." <br><br>GRACE: It`s only five stab wounds to the chest. Good point.<br><br>STARK: And she was capable of doing that, too.<br><br>GRACE: So, Daniel, what was she doing on the way from Montana to California, just sharpening the knife? <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, no, Nancy. Actually, she was calling her children. And after she arrived, there was a long period of time where she just lived at the house. She took her sons to -- her son, Gabriel, to school. She had a normal life. <br><br>(CROSSTALK) <br><br>GRACE: Other than those three 911 calls her husband made. <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, I heard those calls today. And there`ll be a lot more evidence about them. They really were mostly him grousing about the divorce and saying, "Hey, 911, why don`t you help me get my wife out of the house?" There wasn`t anything very spectacular about them. <br><br>The bottom line, Nancy, is that this man was very rageful. She had no financial motive -- I know it seems on the surface she did -- to kill him. But it cost her a lot of money when he died. She lost spousal support that in California is a mathematical calculation based upon his earnings. <br><br>GRACE: Who was his beneficiary? <br><br>HOROWITZ: There was no beneficiary. There is no life insurance policy. That`s another good point.<br><br>GRACE: Well, I`m looking at his multimillion-dollar mansion right now. So who gets that? <br><br>HOROWITZ: Another point, Nancy. Let me interrupt. He argued that the house was worth less when it was going to be sold in the divorce than when they bought it. That`s what the realtor said. So there would be no value in that house, just a big mortgage to pay. <br><br>GRACE: Oh, Daniel, Daniel, just answer in a -- simply, who`s the beneficiary? <br><br>HOROWITZ: The beneficiary of what, though? I mean, you can benefit from debts. <br><br>GRACE: OK, you know what? Never mind. <br><br>Joe Lawless, when there`s not a will, who`s the beneficiary? <br><br>LAWLESS: Usually the spouse. <br><br>GRACE: OK. Thank you. <br><br>Back to Jane Velez-Mitchell, investigative reporter. Jane, also I want to talk about what happened immediately after the stabbing. What was her response? <br><br>VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, she claims now that she`s in shock, but essentially she did nothing. Now she admits she did have an altercation with the husband. And she left the body there for 24 hours until her 15- year-old son discovered the body. He was the one who called 911. <br><br>And then, when she was arrested and sitting in the squad car, she says something to the effect of, "Oh, well. We were going to get a divorce anyway." That is a quote from the officer who was at the scene. <br><br>GRACE: Daniel, take your best shot at that one. <br><br>HOROWITZ: First of all, Nancy, I don`t believe that that is what she said to that officer. I like most of the officers...<br><br>GRACE: You know, I hate it when cops make up lies. I hate that.<br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, Nancy, there was another officer just 10 feet away who didn`t hear anything said. To me, that`s usually a sign that he doesn`t want to back the other officer`s version of events. I like most of the officers here, but I don`t believe that. <br><br>GRACE: OK, let`s just pretend -- Daniel, I`m going to go with you on this one. I`m going to go with you. <br><br>But tell me this: If she was in shock, where did she get the wherewithal to take his car and go park it at the, I guess, the bus or train station. And then when her son kept asking -- they`re supposed to go to a ball game that night -- "Where`s Dad? Where`s Dad?" She`s like, "I don`t know." <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, Nancy, that`s something I had to learn -- and in some ways, you know this better than me. <br><br>GRACE: Oh, don`t put it on me. Don`t put this on me, Daniel Horowitz. <br><br>HOROWITZ: There is something called -- well, Nancy, you have represented as a prosecutor women who have been battered. And you understand, I think -- and certain characteristics of battered women make them hide abuse and hide acts like this. They just don`t deal with it. <br><br>GRACE: You mean hide...<br><br>HOROWITZ: And I`m learning about it from experts. <br><br>GRACE: Well, why did she move his car, if she was in such shock? <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, my understanding is -- and it doesn`t -- it`s not logically perfect -- but she did not want her son to know that his dad was home, because then he would have gone to the pool house looking for him. <br><br>GRACE: Well, Daniel, home? <br><br>HOROWITZ: I know that it`s not a perfect...<br><br>GRACE: Daniel, he wasn`t at home. He was dead, stabbed to death in the foyer. <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, I understand that, Nancy. I understand that. <br><br>GRACE: It`s not the same as being home.<br><br>HOROWITZ: I understand that. From my point of view -- and from what I understand from the experts -- is that, if she had just gone to the police and said, "It was self-defense, and here`s what happened, blah, blah, blah," and in great detail, that would be a sign that she planned it and that she was not a battered woman. <br><br>It is the psychology of a battered woman that makes them go into shock. Now, that`s not my expertise. <br><br>GRACE: OK, let`s take a look at...<br><br>HOROWITZ: That`s why I consult people. <br><br>GRACE: ... Daniel`s client, Susan Polk. <br><br>(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)<br><br>POLK: I hope that people will not be prejudiced by the charge that`s been brought against me and that they will listen with an open mind to what I have to say. <br><br>What happened is my husband attacked me, and grabbed me by the hair, threw me on the floor, and began to stab at me with the knife. <br><br>(END VIDEO CLIP) <br><br>GRACE: He must have had horrible aim, because all he managed to do was to bite her on the hand. <br><br>Very quickly, Daniel Horowitz, not only did your woman take his car to the train station and park it, leave it there, she also suddenly got the clean bug and washed all of her clothes, yes, no? <br><br>HOROWITZ: Yes, but she really did not cover up any evidence that she was there. His hair -- I mean, his hand had her hair right in his hand. She`s a very, very intelligent woman, Nancy. <br><br>GRACE: You need to quit saying that. That`s not helping you. <br><br>HOROWITZ: Well, it`s just a fact. If she wanted to make believe she was not involved in this altercation, she would have taken her hair out of his hand. <br><br>It really was not a clean bug, Nancy, in the sense that she was covering up a crime. It was a clean bug in the sense that she was sort in another state of mind, which the psychologist will say is normal for a woman in her battering situation. <br><br>GRACE: After a murder, OK?<br><br>Daniel Horowitz, you and I on two different sides of the fence on this one. But you know what? We`ll see it play out in a courtroom. Daniel Horowitz, straight from the courtroom. Thank you for being with us. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/14/ng.01.html">transcripts.cnn.com/TRANS...ng.01.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Update from AP on the suspect

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:31 pm

and thanks again to starroute:<br><br>"He was really gothic, always wore a long, dark jacket," said Kevin Etheridge, 16. "He'd hang out with a few kids, but he was pretty quiet, pretty much to himself."<br><br>Another student remembered him <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>drawing a pentagram</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> on the ground with chalk in junior high school and <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>dancing around it</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> with other students.<br><br>"<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>He told people the book that he was carrying and reading from was the book of Satan</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->," Keith Kingon said.<br><br>A man at the house where the suspect lived declined to comment Thursday as goats and chickens wandered around the property. A potbelly stove, a bathtub and dozens of baseballs littered the yard.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051021/ap_on_re_us/attorney_s_wife_slain;_ylt=AhLPBLzHW4Ec9cHg1BuJqtOs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MjBwMWtkBHNlYwM3MTg-">Associated Press</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Goats and chickens?

Postby banned » Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:26 am

Jeebus! Raising 'em for sacrifices? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Update carved symbol was lorraine cross

Postby hmm » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:48 pm

it seems the carved symbol was the lorraine cross,and the suspects mother is into some really weird "new age" stuff and Polk seems worried about what Horowitz had in his computer files,,<br><br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.planethuff.com/darkside/archives/001143.html">www.planethuff.com/darksi...01143.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>It was hinted at already in news coverage of Dyleski's arrest that Scott Dyleski's behavior began to change in a marked manner after his sister's death. It has also been mentioned that a symbol was carved into Pamela Vitale's back. The police referred to the symbol as "goth," <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>though it has been stated, on Nancy Grace's show on CNN Headline News, that the symbol was a Lorraine Cross.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> The Lorraine Cross, according to several sources, was first used during the crusades by the Knights Templar, and in World War II by the French Resistance, a symbol they chose purposefully to stand against the hakenkreuz, or "hooked cross" -- the swastika, so infamously adopted by the Nazi movement as one of its chief symbols. I don't know what sources Nancy's producers at CNNHN used to find out about the Lorraine Cross, but I could find no overtly occult meaning in its use. It has also been used by the Masons, so I suppose if one buys into the many conspiracy theories extant about the evil intent of Freemasonry, then maybe there is truly something dark and foreboding about this symbol.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.thetrenchcoat.com/archives/2005/10/23/long-distance-healing/">www.thetrenchcoat.com/arc...e-healing/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I also mentioned that local media were saying that <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Scott Dyleski’s mom was “a long-distance healer who believes that DNA strands can be activated to alleviate disease”</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. If you wondered what that means wonder no more. Steve Huff was kind enough to send me the link to Scott Dyleski’s mom’s <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>commercial</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> website. <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dnaactivation.com/DNA_SubEsther.htm">www.dnaactivation.com/DNA_SubEsther.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/4298.html">www.earthtimes.org/articl.../4298.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Vitale murder: Horowitz client worried about leak of defense plan<br>Posted on : Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:32:00 GMT | Author : James Simpson<br>News Category : General         <br><br>Susan Polk, a 47-year-old woman who has been charged with the murder of her husband, 70-year-old Felix Polk in October 2002, has said that the two computers seized from her defense attorney Daniel Horowitz's house might weaken her own defense case. <p></p><i></i>
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Dyleski

Postby robertdreed » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:55 pm

The S.F. Chronicle went for the full-on sensationalism on its front page Sunday- three high school photos of Scott Dyleski side by side, illustrating the "before" and "after" of the mutation of his formerly clean-cut image into a "goth"- along with headlines screaming about his scheme to finance his pot garden with stolen credit cards. It was the most blatant Hearstian yellow journalism I've seen in a daily paper in many years. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 10/25/05 11:57 am<br></i>
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Re: Dyleski

Postby proldic » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:17 pm

As an aside, in the last week, two major network crime dramas (CSI and Law & Order [repeat]) have both featured what could essentially be reduced to "otherwise-decent family-growing pot in basement-gets whacked by people trying to steal their crops" plot. <br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Lorraine Cross

Postby bamabecky » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:50 pm

Lorraine Cross=Double crossed<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.stainedglasscrosses.net/images/CROSS_OF_LORRAINE.jpg">www.stainedglasscrosses.n...RRAINE.jpg</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>remember this from reading David Icke - <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">The Biggest Secret</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p>Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.</p><i></i>
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+++

Postby mother » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:38 pm

I have seen a number of crosses in the same shape at Rock Creek Cemetary in N.E. Washington, DC. Some of the cross bars were on the diagonal. All appeared to be the graves of Russians; or very similar script. They also had tiny fences around the graves and many of them had miniature cypress trees, the tall skinny variety. <p></p><i></i>
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Isn't it strange...

Postby ARV » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:08 pm

Is there any real evidence that this young man committed the crime? How sure is the country that a 16-year-old kid did this? Why are we blindly accepting the word of his classmates as truthful and objective? Why aren't we hearing from adults who knew him? <br><br><br>These questions leave me with considerable doubts about the "official" story. It seems a bit too convenient to assume that an outcast high school sophomore is a grand satanic overlord. <p></p><i></i>
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Actually, Scott Dyslexia...

Postby banned » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:44 pm

...which is how *I* see his name because *I* am dyslexic and I'm tired of trying to type it right, isn't an unusual person for the Bay Area, other than being accused of murder. I've been here 20 years and officially stopped trying to put its denizens in any classification I learned growing up in the Midwest a good decade ago.<br><br>When I was in theater a kid half my age who was the star of the play I was directing was getting mopey and I asked if something was wrong, he said he didn't think I'd understand, it was weird. I said "I've had a pretty unusual life myself, try me. I doubt it'll be too weird for me." He said "My girlfriend and I like to drink each other's blood, but we're wondering if you can get AIDS from drinking it." I said "That's too weird for me. I think you can, but ask a doctor." He was afraid the doctor would think it was weird, I said "He will, but your life is at stake."<br><br>Wasn't Rock Creek Park where they found Chandra Levy? Wasn't Condit supposed to be in a cult?<br><br>The SF "Comical" is a shit rag and everybody knows it. The Murky (Mercury) News isn't much better and I've refused to read them on principle since they left Gary Webb hanging in the breeze. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Actually

Postby AnnaLivia » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:45 pm

not one scrap of evidence yet to tie him to scene except circumstantial. story keeps changing. very very very strange.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Scott Petersen's in the Q for circumstantial.

Postby banned » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:56 pm

Maybe Scott Dyslexic is a patsy.<br><br>I get really funny vibes off Horowitz.<br><br>Not necessarily that he had her whacked, but...funny vibes.<br><br>Remember the Judge Lefkow case? Husband and mother of Federal judge iced?<br><br>Remember how it played out?<br><br>Pulled over for a traffic stop (faulty tail light), alleged perp shoots himself. Leaves suicide note. Definitely 'lone nut.' DNA 'links' him to the scene--oh really? It was on a cigarette butt.<br><br>Any smokers here? What if I got one of your butts out of an ashtray or trash and dropped it beside a body?<br><br>PROOF?<br><br>That one wrapped up quick, I don't think the bodies had even been buried. Don't want to think too hard about who might have been pulling some heavy duty intimidation on a Federal judge. <p></p><i></i>
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as if

Postby Homeless Halo » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:15 am

"lone nuts". Seems to be an endless supply of these people.<br><br>I dunno bout this, just sounds too easy. Like I said before, don't know any 16 year old potheads who have the balls to carve people up over what sounds like a "domestic dispute gone awry". Is there any history of violence for this kid? Normally these kinds of "issues", so severe that they just freak out and mutilate someone, well, normally there is a history of this sort of behavior, yet I can't find any witnesses who mention anything REALLY odd about the kid that aren't adolescents. That's strange, just for starters. Normally, at least there'd be a teacher or something...<br><br>Banned: I pour bleach in the ashtray to remove any viable dna. Of course, I'm paranoid. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>*lights*inhales*<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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now his mother's in the dock

Postby ARV » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:58 am

Just in from AP:<br><br><br>"The mother of a teenager accused of killing a prominent attorney's wife did not attend his court appearance, after she was arrested on suspicion of being an accessory to murder.<br><br>Esther Fielding, 53, was held Thursday on $500,000 bail, according to a deputy at the Contra Costa County Jail.<br><br>Her son, 16-year-old Scott Dyleski, faced a first-degree murder charge in the death of his neighbor, Pamela Vitale. She was the wife of defense attorney and television commentator Daniel Horowitz.<br><br>Vitale's body was found by Horowitz in a mobile home on the Lafayette hilltop estate where the couple were building their 7,000 square-foot dream home. That night, Dyleski called his mother, who told him to stay at his girlfriend's house because the road was blocked by police, according to an affidavit.<br><br>Investigators seized a duffel bag from a vehicle at Fielding's house that contained clothing and a glove, both with traces of blood, court documents said. Dyleski was arrested four days later.<br><br>Police linked the teen to a tip about a neighbor's stolen credit card. The credit card was allegedly used to buy hydroponic growing equipment — often used to cultivate marijuana — that was scheduled for delivery to the Horowitz residence, according to police documents.<br><br>Authorities released no other information about Fielding's arrest. Sheriff's spokesman Jimmy Lee did not return pages seeking comment.<br><br>Dyleski did not enter a plea Thursday. His case was temporarily reassigned to the public defender's office after his attorney, Thomas McKenna, asked to be removed from the case. McKenna represented the driver of a car that killed the teen's half sister in 2002.<br><br>Also Thursday, Contra Costa County Judge David B. Flinn issued a temporary gag order until a Nov. 10 hearing, after attorneys on both sides sought to keep the case out of the media spotlight."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051028/ap_on_re_us/attorney_s_wife_slain">news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051...wife_slain</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>---So there you have it. The powers-that-be think that there is a satanic marijuana-growing cult ritualistically murdering people. Does this mean that "reefer madness is true? <br><br>I guess that's why Hearst's papers used to call it the demon weed <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>The authorites in this case are now in the defamation business. Each of their revelations leave me with more questions than answers. <br><br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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