al-Qaida Satanist Neo-Nazis and human sacrifice

by **Qutb** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:51 pm

Wayne Madsen's latest post on the intersection between Islamist extremists, fascists and Nazis, intelligence and drug smugglers is worth a read: <a href="http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/">www.waynemadsenreport.com/</a> (July 15) He mentions English Neo-Nazi David Myatt, aka Abdul Aziz, the founder of the infamous skinhead group Combat 18 and author of books with titles like "The Practical Guide To Aryan Revolution" who has since converted to radical Islam and become a follower of Bin Laden (!) His writings have been used by Hamas, for instance. He has grown a beard and now claims to be a devout Muslim, condoning suicide attacks: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>He runs Britain's National Socialist Movement and a web site called Aryan Nation at the same time he leads a pro-Al Qaeda group called the Islamic Liaison Group. In many Islamic circles in Britain and abroad, Myatt/Aziz, who has become an "expert" on the Koran, is viewed as an Islamic "scholar" and even a "holy man." After 911, Myatt/Aziz began echoing the most extreme Al Qaeda propaganda. He continued to pen such anti-Semitic tracts as "The Crusader War Against Islam" and "The Zionist Quest for World Domination." Myatt/Aziz's extremism was embraced by one British Islamic extremist group, Al Muhajiroun, whose leader, Sheikh Omar Bakri, told The Mercury in 2003, "I am very keen to meet up with him [Myatt/Aziz] as we both share a lot in common and I am sure he can help the Islamic cause."<hr></blockquote> Practicing a strict form of radical Islam and fighting the "Zionist New World Order" with groups like "Reichfolk" may not be all he's been up to, though. Although Myatt/Aziz denies it, it is alleged (by Madsen, among others) that he is the founder of the Order of Nine Angels, a self-described Satanic order which claims to be more serious than pseudo-Satanists like the Temple of Set. <a href="http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=2222&dekey=Order+of+Nine+Angles&gwp=8&curtab=2222_1&linktext=Order%20of%20Nine%20Angles" target="top">Here's</a> an Answers.com entry on the Order: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The Order of Nine Angles is a group of Satanists who believe that Satanism is a dark quest to create a new, higher, type of human being, and, ultimately, a new type of human society.<hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"Satanism is understood by its genuine adherents as a particular Occult way or method. That is, it is a specific path or way toward a specific goal, the following of which involves a particular way of living. The specific path is a dark, sinister, or 'Left Hand Path' one, and the specific goal is the creation of a new type of individual. On a more general level, Satanism is concerned with changing our evolution and the societies we live in - creating, in fact a new human species and a civilization appropriate to the new type of human being." (Anton Long: Satanism: A Basic Introduction for Prospective Adherents, Thormynd Press, England, 1992)<hr></blockquote> This caught my attention: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The Temple of Set proscribed the ONA in the early 1980s for its avowal of human sacrifice. <hr></blockquote> Following the links to the Order's own website (which don't seem to be working right now), I found <a href="http://camlad9.tripod.com/intro1.html" target="top">this</a> document, "An Introduction To Traditional Satanism". A quote: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>And, furthermore, they are not fundamentally prepared to go to and beyond their limits - to really experience the sinister in a practical way; they want to simply play safe, pseudo-Satanic games. Thus, they gravitate toward what we call the sham-Satanic groups, the poseurs, such as the Temple of Set or the Church of Satan - those who like the glamour associated with Satanism but are basically afraid to experience its realness within and external to them. Thus such groups issue - and believe in! – ethical guidelines as they constantly affirm that Satanism does not condone such things as 'human sacrifice'. We, on the contrary, are dark and really sinister - and propound culling. That is, we uphold human culling as beneficial, for both the individual who does the culling (it being a character-building experience) and for our species in general, since culling by its nature removes the worthless and thus improves the stock. Naturally, there are proper ways to choose who is to be culled - each victim is chosen because they have shown themselves to be suitable. They are never chosen at random, as they are never 'innocent'. <hr></blockquote> So... is it all just bravado (which is most likely) or what? Have the police looked into this order? Anybody know anything about it? If Myatt/Aziz is indeed the founder and leader of this order, why does he feel the need to distance himself from it, when he is unashamed to call himself a Nazi and condone suicide bombings? And, if they really were conducting human sacrifice, would they have a website and openly admit to it? Finally: am I the only one who smells the foul stench of intelligence agencies in all of this? <img src="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/4/45/DavidMyatt2.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

by **Qutb** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:21 pm

I just found <a href="http://ona.satanicwebsites.com/septenary/saturn/nexion__satanism_or_living_on_the_edge.htm" target="top">this</a>, which is meant for those who are adepts of the Sphere of Saturn, the 7th and highest degree. Guess I cheated <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> The title is "Satanism - Or Living On The Edge": <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Genuine Satanists are at the sharp end: they act. They strive for and implement their personal Destiny and they work for the fulfillment of sinister strategy. That is, by their lives, by their ways of living, they actively aid the creative forces of Darkness. Or, expressed another way, they do the work of the Prince of Darkness. In contrast, the dabblers, the pseuds, keep themselves secure in their imaginary and fantasy ‘Satanic’ worlds - with correspondence, meetings, conclaves, discussions; with performing and writing/reading about worthless Occult rites; with their babbling about their pseudo-mystical fantasies. A Satanist will be living Satanically - and will therefore be dangerous, in the real world. They will do Satanic deeds rather than just talk or write about them. He or she will be, for instance, disrupting society in a practical way, or working to actively create a new, revolutionary society which is more Satanic. They might be real heretics - fighting against the State either politically or via armed warfare if that State (as most Western ones do) upholds the Nazarene sickness of spirit (evident in modern political ideas like ‘liberalism’ and ‘humanism’ and ‘equality’: the triumph of the worthless at the expense of the noble). Or perhaps they will be aiding the collapse of such a State, and fostering a reaction, by morally undermining it, for example by dealing in drugs or pornography. Or maybe they will be teachers in influential positions, subverting others in secret towards Satanism or those transient forms Satanism often assumes to gain control and influence. Or they might be actively culling the worthless, the scum - by being a vigilante, or a zealous, honourable Police Officer … Whatever, they will have a direction, a purpose, an intent which goes beyond the edification of their own ego. They will be working to achieve something great by virtue of which they can excel in their own lives and thus really live to the full. They will be developing and using their potential, their skills - and thus exulting in life, in overcoming challenges. They will be contributing toward their own evolution and that of existence itself because they are harnessing in a practical way the darker forces. This direction, purpose and intent is Satanic strategy, or Aeonics. A rational and thus conscious understanding of those forces which shape and change evolution and the forms assumed by sentient life from individuals to societies to civilizations and Aeons. It is this sinister or Satanic strategy which makes genuine Satanism what it is, and it is knowledge and understanding of this strategy which marks the genuine Satanic Initiate from the imitation. <hr></blockquote> Interesting, by the way, that that "it is <a href="http://ona.satanicwebsites.com/" target="top">recommended</a> that you have reached the seventh stage (Saturn) of the septenary Tree of Wyrd before you enter these pages and read (about Temple 88 - "Temple 88 is the national-socialist/aryanist fraction of ONA"). By doing so, you are assumed to be able to judge and understand why the usage of national-socialism and aryanism is implemented in the Order of Nine Angles ideological structure." "Or perhaps they will be aiding the collapse of such a State, and fostering a reaction, by morally undermining it, for example by dealing in drugs or pornography." "Or they might be actively culling the worthless, the scum - by being a vigilante, or a zealous, honourable Police Officer …"

by **Qutb** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:47 pm

From <a href="http://www.globusz.com/ebooks/Satanism/00000016.htm" target="top">this</a> site: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>In more modern times the Order of Nine Angles approach to ritual sacrifice has significantly altered from a willing sacrificial victim - that of the initiated Priest - to that of an unwilling sacrificial victim. Yet such acts are not performed without conscious decision, accurate planning and reasoned behaviour, for the Sinister Satanist - as a follower of the Order of Nine Angles Tradition is sometimes known - is an individual who is in control of his or her actions, actions that are both conscious and willed. It is for this reason that the victims, or Opfers as they are more commonly known, are usually selected in this tradition impersonally. They are tested according to their character and, should they fail the test, are judged to have selected themselves. As an Order of Nine Angles manuscript states 'the actions/life of a victim are indicative of weakness, of all these traits and actions which Satanists despise. Things such as cowardice, sycophancy, treachery, fear, lack of self-discipline.' Combined with this judgement is the decision to select an Opfer whose death will in some way aid the Satanic dialectic. As such victims include 'zealous interfering Nazarenes' over-inquisitive journalists or politicians or businessmen whose philosophy and actions are anathema to the Satanic Spirit. Probably the most Sinister of all rites of Sacrifice to be found in modern days is the rite known as The Sinister Calling. The rite itself requires a complete Satanic Temple trained in sinister chant and 'assumes willing sacrifice.' (30) The preparation for the rite which takes places over a period of seven days requires all Temple members participating to adhere to a Black Fast. The Fast itself demands absolute silence save for the chanting nine time a day at sunset of the Diabolus, a Satanic version of the Christian Dies Irae chant. Further the members must 'wear only ceremonial robes, will abstain from intoxicating drinks and sexual pleasures and eat no meat.' (31) The rite may be performed in one of three locations: A sinister Temple, a cave, or an isolated hilltop. Prior to the actual rite the sacrificial Priest is chosen by lot. The congregation then assemble in the Temple and the rite begins. The Priestess serves as the altar for this rite whilst the Opfer is held by the Temple Guardian. The Master and the Mistress then conduct the rite which begins with a ritual dance accompanied by the rhythmic chanting of "Binan ath ga wath am." The Master of the Temple opens a nexion, or gate to the realm of the Dark Gods from which the Dark Gods will presence themselves if the rite is successful. The Opfer-Priest is then united with the Priestess in coition whilst the Priestess visualises the Gate opening further. The Priest is then led away to a secluded place where the Master of the Temple will then perform the ritual sacrifice. Returning to the Temple the Master will present the Mistress of the Earth with a bowl containing the blood of the sacrificed Priest. The Mistress will then wash her hands and face in his blood as a representation of the dark goddess Baphomet. The rite itself is concluded with a feast. An alternative ritual of sacrifice is that known as the Giving which occurs once every 51 years. The function of human sacrifice according to the Order of Nine Angles occur on two levels. Firstly it releases a vast amount of magical or psychical energy that can be directed in accordance with specific goals, or, alternatively stored in a crystal for later use. The second use of human sacrifice is that it 'draws down dark forces or 'entities.' (32) One other aspect of the Order of Nine Angles methods of sacrifice is that the victim is traditionally beheaded. This tradition stems back to the ancient head cults of Europe, a tradition that was still in existence in Great Britain up until at least the 17th century, when a Scottish clan leader beheaded seven treacherous member of the Madonnell clan and ceremonially washed their heads in a well on the shore of Loch Oich. Differing from the two groups mentioned above, the Church of Satan and the Temple of Set have both actively disputed the traditional view that Satanists need to sacrifice humans or animals. The Temple of Set have even gone to the extent of banning its members from association with the Order of Nine Angles due to the latter's views on, and advocation of, human sacrifice. <hr></blockquote> The site mentions the Friends of Hekate as the other British order which has engaged in human sacrifice. The Friends have apparently been implicated in several murders/disappearances, while this does not seem to be the case with the Order of the Nine Angels (at least, I haven't found any site claiming that yet). My rigorous intuition tells me this human-sacrifice-embedded-in-age-old-traditions stuff is just myth-making disseminated by the Order itself, but what then would be the purpose of that? I mean, Aquino and the Temple of Set folks distance themselves from this (at least officially...). Anyway, this Myatt/Aziz is a curious intersection of allegedly people-beheading Satanists, Neo-Nazis and Bin Laden-supporters.

by **Qutb** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:00 pm

a group of men performing homosexal rituals, and not much more... <a href="http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/hexagonarchive/ONA.htm">www.noveltynet.org/conten...ve/ONA.htm</a> That may be all there is to it - BUT, if Myatt is involved, one should remember that this is a pretty serious guy. He is the founder of the dreaded Combat 18, after all, and has been implicated in bomb attacks and things like that. Truly curious stuff. And, as they say, whadda guy...

by **seemslikeadream** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:33 pm

Thanks Qutb There was some talk about this at DU awhile back. I'll look for it. <img src="http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/aktion/action-smiley-066.gif" style="border:0;"/>

by **Qutb** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:23 pm

Or it may have been before I discovered DU. I didn't know much about Myatt until today, I had only heard of him in connection with Combat 18. I almost had a thread going all by myself here, until you came along <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

by **Dreams End** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:12 pm

I think this ONA business is a great sort of "test case". What I mean is, there are two conflicting points of view on this thread. One is that these guys are a bunch of (admittedly rather dark) play-actors, living out some homo-erotic fantasies. One could then interpret all the "sacrifice" talk as just part of the fantasy...if it's ever done, it's all playacted as well. The fact that it seems unlikely a group would advertise it's policy of murder suggests this scenario. The other interpretation is that here we have evidence of a very evil group, smack dab in the middle of the "occult/military/intelligence complex. The apparent intelligence operative Myatt's involvement speaks to this scenario. So which is it? How can we know? Is ONA just a bunch of "wannabes"? I've seen such descriptions of all the other satanic groups...just playacting and large egos. Is ONA disinfo to redirect anyone's attention from Set or other such groups?? Are they for real?

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:49 pm

I haven't known what to make of the Order of the Nine Angels myself. But contemplating an ONA-al Qaeda link just about makes my head explode.

by **Sweejak** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:28 pm

<a href="http://myatt.port5.com/texts/biographical_information.htm">myatt.port5.com/texts/bio...mation.htm</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"I genuinely like Myatt. I see him in the same mold as Manson: a prophet of the Kali Yuga; a nihilistic visionary - but with a grander vision than Manson's, and far more ruthless, fanatical and determined to see it come to fruition."<hr></blockquote> more <a href="http://www.geocities.com/davidmyatt/">www.geocities.com/davidmyatt/</a>

by **albion** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:17 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I genuinely like Myatt. I see him in the same mold as Manson: a prophet of the Kali Yuga<hr></blockquote> why, i do believe i catch a faint whiff of baron evola and the old italian msi... very interesting.

by **Qutb** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:57 pm

Exactly what I was thinking. There's a lot of speculation about Evola and his alleged involvement in a post-war international movement of "black fascism" centred in Italy. Whether there is anything to that, I don't know, but considering what we know about P2 and Kissinger's (or should I say Lucian's?) alleged involvement in its creation... <blockquote>Quote:<hr>We must reawaken to a renewed, spiritualized, bitter feeling (sensazione) for the world, not as a philosophical concept but as something that vibrates in the rhythm of our very blood: a feeling for the world as power, as the agile and free rhythmic dance of Shiva, as a sacrificial act (Veda). This feeling will breed strong, hard, active, solar, Mediterranean beings; beings made up of force and eventually only of force; beings infused with a sense of freedom and nobility whose cosmic perspective (respiro cosmico) has been much stammered about but little understood by Europe's "dead". Science today is profane, democratic, and materialistic. Always relative and qualified in its truths, a slave to phenomena and to incomprehensible laws, it remains mute with regard to the profound reality of man. To debunk it we must reawaken in the new elite a sacred science, a science that is inferior and secret and gives rise to initiations, a science of self-fulfillment and self- dignification that taps the occult forces that govern our being and subdues them so as to permit men to be actually (not mythically) reborn as beings superior to the laws of the body and of space and time. So a race of leaders it will be. Invisible leaders who do not rattle on or parade about but who act irresistibly and are capable of anything. A center will thus exist in decentered Europe. The problem of hierarchy can only be addressed by creating leaders, a strictly individual and internal problem, resistant to external solutions. Hierarchy can come into being only when there are leaders and not vice versa. The empire cannot be built on economic, military, industrial, and even "ideal" foundations. The imperium, according to the Iranian and Roman conception, is transcendent. It can only be attained by those who have the power to trascend the petty lives of petty men and their petty appetites, patriostisms, "values", "nonvalues", and gods. The ancients understood this when they deified their emperors, joining together royal dignity and spiritual dignity. Have the young barbarians who have dared to resurrect the eagle and the fasces learned this lesson? Have they understood that there is no alternative, that this is the only way to transform their "revolution" into the first light that pierces the thick fog of European decadence? Rather than amounting to little more than the small contigency of a small nation, they could plant the seed for a resurgence of Rome throughout the world, the seed for a true restoration. <a href="http://www.centrostudilaruna.it/evolafascismantieu.html" target="top">Julius Evola</a> <hr></blockquote> From <a href="http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id736/pg1/" target="top">disinformation:</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Baron Julius Cesare Andrea Evola is one of history's most enigmatic occult and parapolitical figures. Little-known outside Europe, Evola is often cited as the Godfather of contemporary Italian fascism and radical politics. A close examination of the historical record reveals a more complex figure. Evola wore many masks: a parapolitical philosopher who ranked with Oswald Spengler and Arnold Toynbee, a religious historian who coresponded with Mircea Eliade, and a provocateur who dabbled in Dada. Born to a Catholic aristocratic family on May 19, 1898, Evola led an extraordinary life as a mountaineer, philosopher, solider, religious historian, artist, magician and political theorist. Fluent in French and German, the young Evola was significantly influenced by the virtue theory of German philosopher Friedrich Neitzsche. As an ardent Mountain climber, the young Italian found spiritual invigoration upon the peaks of the Alps. Coming to age on the dawn of the First World War, Evola joined the Italian Army serving in the Mountain Artillery. (...) Evola relocated to Vienna, where he found himself translating Masonic documents for Heinrich Himmler's SS, a political and military organization that he had long admired. During an Allied-bombing sweep in 1945, Evola was injured, leaving him in a wheelchair for his remaining life. The Mountaineer was never to climb a peak again, however his ashes were deposited atop Mt. Rosa, upon his death in 1974. (...) Today, Evola still has a significant influence on Continental magic (especially Italian), and has remained an icon for right wing political groups, such as Italy's "revolutionary cells" and France's National Front Party. Without a doubt, his influence will be felt deep into the emerging Millennium. <hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.centrostudilaruna.it/sh.evola.htm" target="top">Here's</a> a collection of his writings. An interesting person who has been link to Baron Evola is <a href="http://www.stelling.nl/simpos/savitri_devi.htm" target="top">Miguel Serrano</a>, Chilean diplomat and Nazi führer, linked to Colonía Dignidad and author of books with charming titles like "Hitler el último avatar" and "El Hitlerismo esotérico". A couple of <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Miguel_Serrano" target="top">quotes</a>: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"For me Esoteric Hitlerism is being possessed by the archetypes of the collective unconscious which the Greeks used to call Gods..." <hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"We believe that if the world doesn't go quickly to an end, it will be only because Hitlerism transformed itself into a new religious faith, able to change the materialistic man of today into a new idealistic hero where the "beyond life" is as important as life itself. That was the attitude of the heroes of Thermopylae who were fighting for honor and duty, for Dharma, as Indians would say." <hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.letras.s5.com/serrano120102.htm" target="top">Here's</a> a link (in Spanish) where Serrano recounts a conversation with his friend Jung (yes, the psychoanalyst) just before Jung's death, around 1960. It is apparent that Jung and Serrano both view overpopulation as the gravest problem facing humanity: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>- ¿Qué va a pasar con el hombre, en la supercivilización técnica que se avecina? ¿Cree usted que alguien volverá a preocuparse, dentro de veinte años, del espíritu de los símbolos, en plena era de los viajes interplanetarios con los "sputnik", los Gagarin y los Shepard? ¿No llegará a aparecer el espíritu, "démodé"? El doctor Jung sonríe maliciosamente, y afirma: - Tarde o temprano el hombre tendrá que volver a sí mismo, aunque desde los astros. Todo esto que está pasando es una forma extrema de escapismo porque es más fácil llegar a Marte que encontrarse a sí mismo. Si el hombre no se encuentra a sí mismo, entonces corre el más grande de todos los peligros: su aniquilación. También en los viajes al espacio exterior hay un inconsciente intento de solucionar el más grave de todos los problemas que el hombre deberá afrontar en el futuro: la superpoblación. <hr></blockquote> Which, again, makes me think of Kissinger and any possible connection he might have had to Colonía Dignidad. Hmmm. Anybody who knows something about that? <a href="http://www.geocities.com/integral_tradition/serrano.html" target="top">"On Serrano's 85th birthday":</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>In order to enter the Hermetic circle of "esoteric Serranianism" and to attain its center, its unmoving pole, we must turn our back on the world of sciences, with all its technologies and techniques, and find a science "that allows us to travel in other universes, not with gross material machines which are visible to the fleshly eye, and not in outer space, but in the inner space that is the true dimension of the stars." (Nietzsche and the Eternal Return) This voyage to the inner starry heaven by means of "the great ideas, inspiration, ecstasy, poetry," is simultaneously the entrance to the mandala of the inner realm, Shambhala, whose warriors are readying themselves to sally forth from the inner, imaginal world, to conquer the outer world with the sword and to set up the peaceful world dominion of cosmic justice, of which Cathars, Tibetan lamas, and the Persian mystics of illumination dreamed. "Melchisedek rested his head on his hands and began to speak: 'So far and no further can we go. But it is also dangerous to go no further, for in all eternity this miracle is only possible one single time.'" (The Visits of the Queen of Sheba)<hr></blockquote> There's Melchisedek too, which makes me think of Jacques Vallee's shadowy "Order of Melchizedek", which he suspects of being involved in manipulating the UFO phenomenon and UFO-related cults and movements. Hmmm. <img src="http://www.geocities.com/integral_tradition/Serrano.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Miguel Serrano

by **Qutb** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:41 pm

Goodrik Clarke is author of "The Occult Roots of Nazism" and "Black Sun", he's a serious researcher. <a href="http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/copeland.html" target="top">Here's</a> a quote from "Black Sun" (scroll down to picture of Myatt): <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"The chief representative of Nazi satanism in Britian is David William Myatt, whose thought has been a major influence on this international cult. Born in 1952, Myatt was brought up in East Africa and Singapore, where he was fascinated with spirit-dancing and martial arts. In 1967 Myatt came to England to complete his secondary education, while his father returned to Africa. The young Myatt made contact with a coven in Fenland the following summer and later joined secret groups in London practicing the magic of the Golden Dawn and Aleister Crowley. Around this time the activites of Anton LaVey and the Church of Satan became widely known. Yet Myatt remained unimpressed by what he saw of ritual magic and occultism. He sought something alltogether more exciting, dangerous and truly evil. At the same time he began to think of satanism as a means to create an new fearless individial, a higher human type in a Nietzschean sence (Anton Long [i.e. David Myatt], Diablerie: Revelations of a Satanist.(Shrewsbury, U.K.: Thormynd Press, 1991)" Pages 216-217, Black Sun: Chapter "Nazi satanism and the new Aeon", Goodrik-Clarke, 2002 <hr></blockquote> <img src="http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/pics/myatnazi.jpg" style="border:0;"/> David Myatt/Abdul Aziz <a href="http://myatt.port5.com/texts/black_sun_comment.htm" target="top">More</a> quotes from "Black Sun": "In Britain, the Order of Nine Angles (ONA) was founded by David Myatt, onetime bodyguard of the veteran British Nazi Colin Jordan and streetactivist in his British Movement during the early 1970s. The ONA celebrated the dark, destructive side of life through anti-Christian, elitist and Social Darwinist doctrines. The link with neo-Nazism was implicit in Myatt's extensive writings on the "religion and spirituality of National-Socialism"." Pages 215-216, Black Sun: Chapter "'Nazi satanism and the new Aeon", Goodrik-Clarke, 2002 "In 1969 Myatt first encountered the British Movement (BM) started by Colin Jordan the previous year. While on his way to a magical temple, Myatt chanced upon a street fracas following a skinhead rally. Ever in search of adventure and tests of nerve, Myatt felt instinctively drawn by the compradeship of these young figthers engaged in a struggle against superior numbers of leftwing protesters. He joined the movement and regulary attended BM rallies and meetings, acting on occation as Colin Jordan's bodyguard. Myatt was impressed by Jordans' writings on National Socialism and was also introduced by Jordan to the writings of Savitri Devi, whose book The Lighting and The Sun, enthralled him with its eulogy of Nazi values (David Myatt, Cosmic Reich: The life and Thoughts of David Myatt (Paraparamu Beach, New Zeeland, Renaissance Press, 1995). In his own mind, Nazism and satanism where both representative of Nietzschean self-overcoming and a creation of bold, fearsome warrior type: "To me, at that time, Adolf Hitler and his movement seemed to embody some of the ideals I believed magick should achieve - they seemed to represent a Satanic spirit, an urge to conquer, discover and extend.... a zestfull, life-enhancing character, a dynamism and charisma" (Long, Diablere)" Page 217, Black Sun: Chapter "Nazi satanism and the new Aeon", Goodrik-Clarke, 2002 "Myatt's activity on the far-right political fringe proceeded in tandem with his deepening involvement with the black arts. In 1973 he met a woman who led the ONA, a small satanist-wicca group whose tradition and practises greatly excited his interest. The ONA claimed descent from a cult surounding a dark violent goddess who provailed in Albion (England) as early as 4000 B.C. As a pagan nature-religion, its rites were related to the flow and ebb of cosmic energies, the rising of certain stars in the spring and autumn, and ceremonies were performed at henges and stone circles. From these supposed neolithic origins, the cult had declined with the advent of Christianity into a clandestine folk way practised and handed down by a hanful of individuals since the medieval times, aspecially on the Welsh Marches, the place of its supposed prehistoric origin. The modern history of the ONA began in the 1960's when this woman united three obscrue neopagan temples called Camlad, The Noctulians and The Temple of The Sun as a new order ("An interview with Christos Beest," The Herectic, No. 8 [April 1994])" Pages 217, 218, Black Sun: Chapter "Nazi satanism and the new Aeon", Goodrik-Clarke, 2002 "Following the cult leader's emigration to Australia, Myatt took over the order and threw himself into the task of codyfying and extending its teachings into a fully developed system of initiation and training for adeptship." Page 218, Black Sun: Chapter "Nazi satanism and the new Aeon", Goodrik-Clarke, 2002 "Between 1976 and the early 1990's Myatt wrote more then ten ONA ritual books, including The Black Books of Satan, The Deofel Quartet, Naos, Hostia and Hysteron Proteron" Page 218, Black Sun: Chapter "Nazi satanism and the new Aeon", Goodrik-Clarke, 2002 <img src="http://myatt.port5.com/pics/blacksun.jpg" style="border:0;"/> <a href="http://www.geocities.com/davidmyatt/david_myatt_comments.html" target="top">Here</a> is some more info on Myatt: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"Myatt is an ethereal character. He is a dangerous man who has twice been jailed for his violent right-wing activities and who openly asked for blood to be spilled in the quest for white Aryan domination. We believe that despite his claims to be a devout Muslim he remains a deeply subversive intellectual and is still one of the most hardline Nazi intellectuals in Britain today. Myatt believes in the disruption of existing societies as a prelude to the creation of a new more warrior-like Aryan society which he calls the Galactic Empire." (Gerry Gable)<hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"I'm sure you've heard of other cases of "infiltrators" who external observers can't figure out what their aim is. David Myatt in Britain is famous for that--the "neo-Nazi" who set up a "Satanist" group known as the Order of Nine Angles, which espouses anti-NWO and racialist doctrines. Then he left all that behind and converted to Islam and praises bin Laden. Some say he really means it and is now a true Muslim. Others say this is all part of his right-wing, anti-NWO strategy. And yet others still claim that both Myatt's "neo-Nazi" incarnation as well as his Muslim incarnation are "insight roles" that help him probe the limits of darkness in the human experience as a Satanist. So which of the three is he really? Who knows?" <hr></blockquote> Indeed, who knows.

by **Dreams End** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:07 pm

Good post Qutb. Anyone seen evidence of any links to Andreas Strassmeier, the German agent working at Elohim and inciting the OKC bombing? This quote from Qutb's post reminded me of him: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Myatt believes in the disruption of existing societies as a prelude to the creation of a new more warrior-like Aryan society which he calls the Galactic Empire." (Gerry Gable)<hr></blockquote> That sounded like a description of Strassmeier's agenda, though I suppose such similar agendas doesn't really prove anything. The OKC link on this thread (in case it's not on page one when you read this) is here: <a href="http://p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm7.showMessage?topicID=693.topic">p097.ezboard.com/frigorou...=693.topic</a>

by **Qutb** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:29 pm

Thanks for the <a href="http://myatt.port5.com/texts/biographical_information.htm" target="top">link</a>, Sweejak. This I found interesting: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Myatt was recruited by the underground paramilitary group, Column 88 which - it has been alleged - was part of the European Gladio "stay-behind" network, set up, and trained by, Special Forces units (such as the British SAS) to conduct sabotage and assassinations in the event of a Soviet invasion of Western Europe<hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>According to one source: "The persons involved in the secret armed cells conspiracy included George Kennedy Young, the ex-deputy director of the British intelligence service MI6... Ex-spymaster Young was for many years a key link man between the extreme-right of the Conservative Party and some of Britain's most dangerous and violent neo-nazis. The vehicle for this liaison, which included contact with individuals connected with the underground fascist elite paramilitary organisation, Column 88, was his own pressure group called Tory Action. David Muire, another former intelligence officer, was using British Movement members as couriers for British Intelligence..."<hr></blockquote> Hmmm. <img src="http://www.geocities.com/davidmyatt/myatt1.png" style="border:0;"/> More: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Following the arrest of the leader of Combat 18 - Paul "Charlie" Sargent - for murder, Combat 18 split into two feuding groups, with Myatt taking over the leadership of the loyalist Sargent faction. Myatt was also arrested by the British Police following allegations of terrorist activities and conspiracy to murder. The case was later dropped - after a three year international investigation involving Interpol, the FBI and the Canadian Police - due to "insufficient evidence."<hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Myatt is believed to have been behind a 15-page document which called for race war, under the imprint White Wolves. While groups such as C18 had regularly advocated race war, the authors of this article seemed far more serious. Claiming that every nation had the absolute right to defend itself, it argued "our main line of attack must be on the immigrants themselves, the Black and Asian ghettos. If this is done regularly, effectively and brutally, the aliens will respond by attacking Whites at random, forcing them off the fence and into self-defence. This will begin the spiral of violence which will force the Establishment's hand on the race issue. "The British people will fight, but not if we offer them only the soft voting option. WE must point them in the right direction by taking the necessary action to start the spiral of violence which will ultimately include even the reluctant, forcing them to fight. The victory will come from them once they have no other option, but the initiative must come from us. There are a dozen Belfast's and a hundred Londonderry's in Britain today, they're just waiting for a spark ..." The document concluded: "We do not believe that we alone can win the Race War, but we can start it!"<hr></blockquote> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Of especial interest, in the context of Myatt's Islam, was his Foreseeing the Future (written some time ago before his conversion to Islam) in which he stated his belief that Islam could create the Galactic Empire he has always dreamed about: I firmly believe that Islam has the potential to create not only a new civilization, governed according to reason, but also a new Empire which could take on and overthrow the established world-order dedicated as this world-order is to usury, decadence and a god-less materialism... I also believe that a new Islamic Empire could create the Galactic Empire, or at least lay the foundations of it. Perhaps the first human colonies on another world will have as their flag the Islamic crescent, a flag inscribed with the words, in Arabic, In the Name of Allah, The Compassionate, The Merciful.<hr></blockquote> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/davidmyatt/ona_sigil.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

by **Qutb** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:11 pm

This Strassmeir character is a real enigma. I think he represents a particularly weird and chilling link between OKC and 9/11, what we may call the "German Connection". According to Hopsicker, Mohammed Atta received visits from mysterious Germans several times while he was living in Florida. Before he moved to Florida, he lived in Germany for several years, where he was monitored by the CIA as well as by German intelligence. Atta, a mediocre student, was brought to Germany in an "exchange" project run by a secretive organization which according to Hopsicker is linked to Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller. While living in Hamburg, he and his friends were "radicalized" by a fundamentalist imam who would later disappear to Morocco, never to be seen again. Hopsicker has said something like, if he only had a little more money, or a few more people assisting him, he could go to Germany and solve the whole case. That's the real weakness of the 9/11 "truth" movement: The research that is done is mostly done on the internet. If someone like Seymour Hersh would bother to investigate it, with a team to assist him, we could find out stuff. As it is, Hopsicker is the only guy doing any real investigation, everybody else is surfing the web and theorzing about the fall of the towers based on the video clips that are available. Which will bring us about as far as all the calculations of bullet trajectories from the grassy knoll did.

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