Wikipedia and its SRA apologists

[biaothanatoi]

I got sick of reading blogs that linked to Wikipedia's ignorant article on Satanic Ritual Abuse:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat...tual_abuse</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>It's full of BS from faux-experts like the "Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance" and pro-paedophile activists like Underwager who popularise the denialist stance by placing their diatribes online for free.<br><br>I added some references to academic journal articles, particularly under 'prevalence', since some studies have been undertaken into the prevalence of RA. <br><br>Every change that I've made has since been deleted or reversed. I can't even add journal articles to the 'References' section without them being deleted. I summarised a set of quantitative surveys and samples by teams of sociologists, psychologists and child protection workers around ritual abuse, and they were deleted as well. They also deleted references to ritual abuse cases in Beglium and Britain that have been uncovered. <br><br>Have a read of the discussion page (particularly under 'attempts to improve the article' and 'prevalence') to read their justifications:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Satanic_ritual_abuse">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tal...tual_abuse</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[mother]

They also forget to mention infiltration into religions. I've had the same reaction to their treament of reactive attachment disorder ( and satanic abuse can be a dfinite cause of this condition, by the way.) <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Bio ---<br><br>PLEASE post the information you attempted to post on Wikipedia here...journal entries, links, studies, etc. <br><br>I would love to have access to that. <p></p><i></i>

[James Redford]

Wikipedia for the most part is controlled by shameless statists. I don't doubt that many of them are actually on the payroll of the government. After all, the government's got a war to fight, and that includes its PsyWar.<br><br>When it comes to controversial political issues, for the greatest part Wikipedia will simply spue the government line--known, documented, and provable facts be damned.<br><br>Wikipedia is fond of claiming a "neutral" viewpoint, but when it comes to many controversial political issues, Wikipedia is shameless about outright denigrating its anti-Establishment opponents.<br><br>Look up "conspiracy theory" on Wikipedia. Right now it's not as bad as it used to be (which isn't saying much), but it still basically equates one who holds an anti-Establishment belief in conspiracy as tantamount to being clinically insane. The irony is that it is those who deny anti-Establishment conspiracies--even when presented with the proof--who are the ones with a pathology, i.e., denial, i.e., cognitive dissonance.<br><br>I've posted actual quotes by high-level political personages saying that they intend to establish a one-world government and one-world religion on the Wikipedia "conspiracy theory" entry. Of course, such quotes were quickly taken down--despite the fact that anyone can verify that they are genuine quotes. Obviously actual facts are not what the controllers of Wikipedia are looking for; not to mention that my posting of such quotes totally messed-up the gist of the Wikipedia "conspiracy theory" entry (i.e., that anyone that believes in an anti-Establishment conspiracy is basically clinically insane), as such quotes in of themselves prove that a New World Order elitist conspiracy is a reality.<br><br>As well, my comments in the "Discussion" section of Wikipedia have often been erased. So not only do the controllers of Wikipedia erase anti-Establishment facts, but they also erase comments on their erasion of said facts!<br><br>I'm quite disgusted with the people who have control over Wikipedia as it concerns facts regarding anti-Establishment conspiracy (and by "anti-Establishment conspiracy" I don't mean conspiracy against the Establishment, but rather belief and facts concerning conspiracies which the political establishment have committed or are in the process of committing). <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

Try this crazy link, Judicial-biz.com and just read what they have to say on the subject, then, make up your own minds. If I, in my limited blogging way, have misspelled the link, then Google it. You will find it. I, personally don't think it's anti-Jewish, merely anti-Zionist, and, believe me, there IS a world/planet/universe(?) of difference in those terms and worldviews! If you don't believe me on that last point, then someone just ask one of our most prolific posters, "ir", A.K.A. Israel Realities, what he thinks of Judaism vs. Zionism. To compare the two, here in Amerika, try comparing Neocon "Fund"amentalism with true, Bible-based Christianity. You just might get the Big Picture.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://judicial-inc.biz/1_master_supreme.htm">judicial-inc.biz/1_master_supreme.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I don't know what is real & what is BS on this site, but it does make for some interesting reading on a variety of political/historical/occult subject matter.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Project Willow]

Wikipedia on this subject has been an irritation of mine for a long time. Biao, you've done an excellent job of confronting the assheads over there. Is there anyway to go above them? Is there an ombudsman or complaint process?<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Floyd, I'm pretty surprised to see YOU linking to that site. While your self-professed "fundamentalism" is not my perspective, I've enjoyed your posts and seeming willingness to think beyond labels, self-imposed or otherwise.<br><br>But Judicial Inc is surely the most blatantly hateful, anti-Semitic site I've ever seen...and I've seen many.<br><br>I want to say that sometimes I criticize "anti-Semtic" theory in the sense that some or other conspiracy theory merely reworks this very old anti-Semite propaganda in new forms. When criticizing as such, this doesn't necessarily imply that someone who has bought into the theory is anti-Semitic themselves, though it should be a HUGE caution flag for buying into such thought.<br><br>But in this case, I have no such distinctions to make. This guy hates Jews, period.<br><br>Your link didn't work, so I don't know what that particular article was about, but he has an entire section on "Jewish Ritual Murder"...the oldest of old canard about the Jews. <br><br>Actually, the whole site seems down at the moment. But I have read stories on there, alleged "exposes" of Jewish ritual murders in which he even suggests that the motive was to procure blood for making Matzoh. This was not tongue in cheek.<br><br>Since none of the articles I've read are sourced at all, the ability to discern any legitimate information (why would you bother on such a site?) is so impaired as to make it worthless.<br><br>His latest book (Richard Earley, the author of this site) is all about how cowardly the Jews were in various wars. He is beyond hateful...he is psychotic. It also gives me no comfort to point out that he says he was involved in Operation Phoenix in Vietnam, in which tens of thousands of Vietnamese civilians were killed in a campaign of psychological and physical terrorism that makes even the worst caricatures of Osama bin Laden pale in comparison. <br><br>So as not to completely hijack this thread, I mention this for two reasons.<br><br>1. That link is a terrible source of information.<br><br>2. The sections on Jewish ritual murder (I think it's just a section under murder...I'll provide links when and if the site comes back on) is textbook presentation of the original "blood libel" against the Jews which began in the Middle Ages. This oldest of smears claimed that Jews killed Gentile children and drained them of blood for Jewish ritual and also that they ate the children. Jews were not the only ones accused of this...several groups opposed by the Church were similarly accused (I think even Christians themselves were so accused early on, though this may not have been malicious, perhaps a misunderstanding of the nature of the "body and blood" of Christ??)<br><br>But it was deadly against Jews, as townspeople often retaliated.<br><br>It's important here because the stories are so similar to some of the activities alleged in accounts of SRA today. I would also point out that then, as well as now, there were sometimes deaths that, if we can believe historical accounts, did seem to be ritually murdered. The only evidence linking these crimes (when they existed at all) was simply that only Jews could possibly do such a thing.<br><br>So, summary: That site absolutely blows, especially if you want to do serious research, and we should be very careful as anti-Semitic theory is not always just about hate...it can also be simply about misinformation. <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[ir]

I am thankful for you bringing it up, just for me to see that some of the "wolf" alerts - re antisemitism - are genuine and justified. <br>My tolerance for anti jewish/israeli materials applies only to stuff that has some side value (either it brings information or theories that require attention). But this kind of website is equivalent to hard core, abusive, pornography. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

D.E., Just so you do know from where I come, I am definitely not anti-Semitic. But then, you did not accuse me of that, as I read the last two posts here carefully. I, as an old unrepentant Fundie, do believe the part of the Bible, Old Testament (Torah), to be exact, wherein God says "I will bless those who bless Her (Israel), and I will curse those who curse Her" (His beloved Bride). Please excuse any paraphrasing, but I know I have the gist of the scripture correct.<br><br>However, I would like to point out a true fundamentalist view of the "end times" from Revelation, wherein the Lord Jesus says to Saint John, "There are those who SAY they are Jews, but are not. They are of the Synagogue of Satan.". I posit for discussion here, that Jesus was one of the first to warn anyone reading the book of Revelation, that there would be many "false flag" operations designed to deliberately cast aspersions (and foment hatred) on the true Jews of the family of Abraham and Jacob (Israel); and it is my contention that that's exactly what is going on today. I truly believe that many "false flag" non-Jews have been masquerading as G_d worshipping Torah following Jews, in order to bring the world's wrath and hatred down on God's first chosen, and the "apple of His eye".<br><br>Also, on the link I posted, not that you didn't find one/some? that I don't know about, I don't remember finding any "stories" of ritual murder, blood drinking, etc., that you mentioned above. That's the only reason I'm asking you here whether or not we are both actually viewing the same site.We could be, I'm just not sure "at this juncture", to quote Poppy Butcher.<br><br>ir, I would say pretty much the same to you, my brother-in-harm's-way. I can't emphasize enough, that my view of the last century is one of manipulation by the PTB (like none of us knew THAT), some pretending to be Jews, but aren't, and many many pretenders (European/Germanic/British Royalty) to the throne of the world.<br><br>I will be taking questions for a short while after the lecture, students. Or, you can call my secretary and make an appointment for an office visit.<br><br>Floyd-the-Conductor-on-the-Hooterville Cannonball-Smoots, D.S., b (Doctor of Scatology, bovine)<br><br>Just a little light humor (or for the British, humour) on a truly serious subject. <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

If any of you followed my original "link", which was incorrect, and actually used (or were 'used by' Google), it possibly didn't connect/lead? you to the site that I corrected in my subsequent post. I just "clicked" on it right here from this thread, and that link worked, and that site wasn't down in any way.<br><br>Let's check that out, too, if we can, just to ascertain that we're all on the same page. The corrected link, I think, really made me think about "Wicked-poedia" in a slightly different light. That said, I've never really bothered much with the "Wicko" site anyway, as I have several very good, old, Politically Incorrect dictionaries in my possession, and have been studying and playing with my native American English language for as long as I have been able to read. Ergo, I just haven't felt a compelling need to Pedia my Wickets.<br><br>F.M. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Hey Floyd. This discussion is taking this thread off track. I'm going to put more info about judicial-inc etc on another thread in the firepit...just to save Jeff the trouble of moving it there once...well, once it needs to be moved there. I'll return this thread back to its very important topic concerning evidence and SRA. <p></p><i></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

O.K., Dreams End, I have no boggle with that, fellow citizen, but I need to point out that I screwedly-uppedly misposted the link originally. Are you certain that Judicial-Inc.com, my bad, Old Bean, and <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://judicial-inc.biz/1_master_supreme.htm">judicial-inc.biz/1_master_supreme.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>are actually links to the same site??<br><br>It is possible, and I repeat only possible that you were "Google-ated" if you followed my original, mis-quoted, mis-posted "almost-link".<br><br>Just asking. It might be the same gang of "usual suspects" or the link to whom you are referring, could, possibly be one of of those "look-alike smell-alike, false flag" links. We both know the web/net/snare? is just littered with those. And speaking of SRA, see my last post on the thread started by brother "meekster".<br><br>Luv,<br>Brother Floyd <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

clicked on your link AGAIN and again it doesn't work. You have the page now cached in your computer's memory so it will come up for you. Clear the cache and see if it still comes up. Rest of responses are in firepit.<br><br>By the way, I have judicial-inc.biz bookmarked and that doesn't work either. Here is an exact post of that address as it is stored on my computer:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://judicial-inc.biz/earley/EarleyBook.htm">judicial-inc.biz/earley/EarleyBook.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Obviously, it is a different page within the site, but it is there. If you really CAN get to that site, see if you can get to that address.<br><br>But anyway, it is not possible for two sites to share the first part of their address (down to the ".com" or, in this case, ".biz" and be different sites.... unless the original site is completely hijacked. I've been checking out this site for some time, so if your site IS different, then it hijacked the original! (not likely) <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 12/23/05 12:09 am<br></i>

[Floyd Smoots]

You know what, Dreams End, that is NOT the site that I have linked into my bookmarks, but, it SMELLS the same. I WILL check it out tomorrow, because, here on the U.S. east coast, it's WAY past my bedtime, but I definitely will get back to you tomorrow, and we'll see what we can find out about this crappola together.<br><br>Saya, Nora<br>hasta manana, Amigo<br> <p></p><i></i>