by Dreams End » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:12 pm
I was interested in Jeff's post today. A woman called Noreen Gosch claiming that one of the boys in the now infamous photo was her son, abducted from Washington State in '85. As Jeff correctly noted, there was nothing online about this boy...not even in the database of the Missing and Exploited Children Foundation. <br><br>So I decided a more fruitful search might be on his mom, the one claiming his abduction. Her name is Patricia Johnson Holm. And she can, indeed, be found on the internet.<br><br>She runs something called the "Tell America Forum". It looks like a "patriot" site...and as for the patriot movement itself, I have mixed feelings. Blend of rightwing reationary stuff mixed in with good people who see something terribly wrong but interpret from a very different frame of reference of my own. <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub18.bravenet.com/forum/1501039859">"tell america forum"</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Evidently she also has or had a television show called "Call 4 Investigation".<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://tellamerica.bravepages.com/call4investigation.html">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>So far all this could be explainable as a woman who ran up against a system that did not protect her son and started digging and came to the idea that the country and the elites who run it are corrupt. <br><br>Ummm...I'm afraid it goes downhill from here...but to WHERE, I don't know. Here's her post on the Greta Sustren show about the Gosch photos:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Just a few comments about this picture. You will need to first tell us clearly what to name of the so called expert that shakingly said the picture, did not include Johnny Gosch. And get him to answer IF he indeed has the inside info to know this - the middle, blond, blue eyed boy's name? The name of the boy David L. Johnson kidnapped April 1, 1985 from 20426 Damson Rd, Lynnwood,WA the Seattle area right? And accomplice to this happening was Terryle L. Holm, right?<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub18.bravenet.com/forum/1501039859/show/906092">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>So clearly, her husband or someone else in the Holm family was involved somehow. Here is one post about the abduction. She knows her way around parapolitics, but this post, like all the others is so disjointed that I question whether her info, even about her own son, is completely accurate. Still, the connections she does make are interesting...well, some of them...some are...ah...you read it yourself:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Bush - as in Vanavar and many others by the name of Bush comes up multiple times throughout the life of the one to do the work of the Messiah. And the taking of David Johnson has to do with the Bush connection to the Boeing Black Ops project Green River killing. Look at the way it threatened any prostitute that was not under the 'protection' in other words available for 'FUND RAISING' efforts. And just happened to have the surnames of the ones being coerced into doing most likely what they would not do otherwise. Particularly if certain ones that were being called upon to do the dirty work for a Bush bunch didn't sink to using one of the 'sexslaves' so no pictures were available to use for bribery. Take a look at the actual ages of the girls. Many were TEENAGERS - not prostitutes. It is more likely that the young vicitms refused to go along with the trash that was being demanded of them and ended up dead for doing so.<br>This has to do with the taking of David my oldest son April 1, 1985. Look on johnnygosch.com website and look for the picture of three boy the middle blond is David. And that the Franklin (so called Savings and Loan etc. etc. etc.) is right in the middle of this tells the insiders what is what. Just think of what was found in the basement of Ben Franklin's house in London? Bones of most likely ritual victims used for satanic purposes? Just in that he had a house in London should tell you something of his 'loyalty' to whom or what? In 1999 a so called attorney sold me out and pocketed the money paid him for NO VALUE. His name just happened to be Templeton. And now it is called Franklin and Templeton?<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://pub18.bravenet.com/forum/1501039859/show/904600">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Should you think I'm being harsh here, check out a couple of paragraphs down:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Ramey - is a name that plays a pivotal roll particularly having to do with Real Estate dealings. And General Ramey was in the middle of the telling Roswell was just a Weather Balloon. But what he did not tell you was that weather balloon is code for 151 (A=1,B=2...Z=26)151=Jesus Christ in otherwords Messiah. And it appears that it was well known that the Aurora crash signaled the coming of the Age. Was called a 'Weather Balloon' yes this is not just a coincidence. The Aurora happens to add up to 74 (Jesus) meaning the message was Jesus or the Messiah was coming. The House of Stuart in otherwords the House of David was known to be the 99. Look up Job 9:9 then do the code for Stuart and you will see it is 99. It is no mistake that Highway 99 is called Aurora Highway. And the the Green River Serial killing happen to be centered around Highway 99 or Aurora Ave..<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I think it's clear that she's had some sort of mental break. Long chains of association...etc. <br><br>That doesn't mean that boy isn't her son. If I were in her shoes and my son had been kidnapped, I know myself well enough to know that I would be completely consumed in the search for him and might not be able to stay mentally healthy. But if you combine these postings with the fact that there is no listing for a David Johnson as having been abducted, I think it suggests Noreen should be careful. I think it is possible that her husband Terryle Holm, whom she lists as an accomplice (but still keeps his last name?) may have taken the boy, legally or no, but it was not considered an abduction case.<br><br>Or, as I keep searching...this time on "terryle holm"...maybe not. Here's a post archived (it's a google cache) on alt.religion.scientology<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>PL Johnson-Holm<br><br>Subj: IF MEDIA were doing their job this could not happen<br>Date: 5/8/01 9:06:26 PM EST<br>From: RUPROSE<br><br>Serial Killer info.<br><br>Right after Terryle married me, we stopped by his mother's house and she got a<br>phone call as we stood there. It was from one of the cult group (at that time I<br>didn't know anything about, Terryle had "departed from"<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> asking how he was<br>doing apparently, because she answered "He is fine." When the cult person was<br>told he was just married the question in returned must have been "Is she still<br>around?" because that is what Chris (Terryle's Mother) repeated.<br><br>BTW this same cult, one usually NEVER "departs from." Only recently has there<br>been progress, so others are now able to depart. However, to this day this same<br>cult considers you SP and fairgamed (which is about the equivalent of being<br>EXTREMELY Blacklisted/Blackballed,etc. particularly when Terryle "left" but all<br>they did was back off and leave him alone).<br><br>Other peculiar happenings:<br><br>Terryle would just change the subject if asked about strange smells in the<br>trunk of car.<br><br>We had a Fiat, then two different Volvos, Ford and Ford LTD. Terryle was<br>against stationwagons and expressed this vehemently.<br><br>Terryle insisted on having a car with a trunk, and that I stay out of it.<br><br>Terryle was gone for long periods of time repeatedly.<br><br>Terryle would have lengthy discussions with his father no one else was to<br>listen to.<br><br>Terryle would for no apparent reason flare up at odd times. Remembering back<br>many times when it was a special news bulletin etc..<br><br>Terryle ran out of gas one day and demanded I go get the gas and take the baby<br>too, that he HAD to stay with the car.<br><br>Terryle was gone long periods of time, when we would go to my brother's place<br>in Tigard Oregon.<br><br>Terryle was even gone a long time when we just stopped to get gas at<br>BattleGround, WA, coming back from CA.<br><br>Terryle showed up with what I thought was my ID, so I grabbed it out of his<br>hand. Only to find out that it was the ID of a woman 20ish medium complexion,<br>dark eyes and dark hair, with 4 names and the last name started with Mal---. He<br>yanked it back from me with a weird look. The baby was in my arms at the time<br>started to cry. Terryle waved one of the cards at the baby and the little one<br>grasped it. Not knowing how many germs were on that card I started to take it<br>away. He was adamant "If my son wants it he can have it." Right after that we<br>were supposed to see his parents off at the Airport. The card made its rounds<br>to each child but ended up in the baby's hands when reaching the airport.<br>Terryle started to take it, his mother walked up then he was busy doing<br>something else. We said our good-byes at Gate B-4 headed back down the aisle<br>way and realized the card was gone. Terryle was beyond just agitated I said "I<br>don't know where it is, it could be a lot of places." He tore off to gate B-4<br>just as they were closing the gate. We had to get going the baby was crying,<br>hungry, wet and the parking toll was running up.<br><br>Another time when visiting his parents house, I happened to enter thru the<br>garage. Hanging up were wet hip boots that had a peculiar smell. On the floor<br>again were pinkish pieces of glass in front of the work bench. So when going<br>upstairs I said to Chris "would you make sure the children don't go<br>downstairs," "the hip boots---" she interrupted me and said "I don't know why<br>he keeps those around." Very briskly she just wanted to change the subject.<br><br>One of the smells in the trunk was the same as the smell of the Hip boots.<br><br>Later, when smelling a part of the Green River the smell was the same.<br><br>Terryle would only allow $200 a month for all food clothing and misc. items. So<br>cutting costs were mandatory. At different times he tore out the door when we<br>had a meat substitute for dinner.<br><br>When we had fish for dinner he would be out the door quickly too.<br><br>Boy did he get upset when my Brother Fred needed me to dog-sit Fred's wife's<br>large dog.<br><br>After my buying a double deck recording unit from Magnolia HiFi, he about hit<br>the roof. Right after that he made the comment "I showed them" (he was<br>referring to the Magnolia HiFi).<br><br>Throughout the years Terryle has done MANY violent things one would never even<br>consider if one is a fully sane, mature, grown adult.<br><br>Terryle had something rolled up in his teeth which looked like a personal item<br>of mine, and came at me in the middle of the night with sharp scissors.<br><br>You might want to check closer in Eastern Washington for bodies, because he has<br>been going to the Gorge alone to "see concerts."<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:rIcESW0yHM8J:groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_thread/thread/58af2f3149c461df/2eced690c9e88841%3Flnk%3Dst%26q%3Dwhite%2Bmagnolia%2Bpicks%2Blarge%2Bones%26rnum%3D10%26hl%3Den+terryle+holm&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=firefox-a">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>All I found in a quick search. I don't remember details of the Green River Killer, but obviously she believes that her husband was involved and that it was a result of some cult involvement. But if then you add in the "weather balloon" triggers the age stuff, or whatever, it's hard to take all of it as being evidentiary of much of anything. <br><br>Others...especially any who are closer to Noreen...should research this further. Too many questionable folks attach themselves to this stuff. <p></p><i></i>