The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

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The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby nomo » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:22 pm

Just what the world needs. Apocalyptic fantasies on both sides.<br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb<br>By Amir Taheri<br>(Filed: 16/04/2006)<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/04/16/do1609.xml&sSheet=/portal/2006/04/16/ixportal.html">www.telegraph.co.uk/opini...ortal.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Last Monday, just before he announced that Iran had gatecrashed "the nuclear club", President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad disappeared for several hours. He was having a <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>khalvat </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->(tête-à-tête) with the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Hidden Imam</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, the 12th and last of the imams of Shiism who went into "grand occultation" in 941.<br><br>According to Shia lore, the Imam is a messianic figure who, although in hiding, remains the true Sovereign of the World. In every generation, the Imam chooses 36 men, (and, for obvious reasons, no women) naming them the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>owtad </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->or "nails", whose presence, hammered into mankind's existence, prevents the universe from "falling off". Although the "nails" are not known to common mortals, it is, at times, possible to identify one thanks to his deeds. It is on that basis that some of Ahmadinejad's more passionate admirers insist that he is a "nail", a claim he has not discouraged. For example, he has claimed that last September, as he addressed the United Nations' General Assembly in New York, the "Hidden Imam drenched the place in a sweet light".<br><br>Last year, it was after another khalvat that Ahmadinejad announced his intention to stand for president. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Now, he boasts that the Imam gave him the presidency for a single task: provoking a "clash of civilisations" in which the Muslim world, led by Iran, takes on the "infidel" West, led by the United States, and defeats it in a slow but prolonged contest that, in military jargon, sounds like a low intensity, asymmetrical war.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>In Ahmadinejad's analysis, the rising Islamic "superpower" has decisive advantages over the infidel. Islam has four times as many young men of fighting age as the West, with its ageing populations. Hundreds of millions of Muslim "ghazis" (holy raiders) are keen to become martyrs while the infidel youths, loving life and fearing death, hate to fight. Islam also has four-fifths of the world's oil reserves, and so controls the lifeblood of the infidel. More importantly, the US, the only infidel power still capable of fighting, is hated by most other nations.<br><br>According to this analysis, spelled out in commentaries by Ahmadinejad's strategic guru, Hassan Abassi, known as the "Dr Kissinger of Islam", President George W Bush is an aberration, an exception to a rule under which all American presidents since Truman, when faced with serious setbacks abroad, have "run away". Iran's current strategy, therefore, is to wait Bush out. And that, by "divine coincidence", corresponds to the time Iran needs to develop its nuclear arsenal, thus matching the only advantage that the infidel enjoys.<br><br>Moments after Ahmadinejad announced "the atomic miracle", the head of the Iranian nuclear project, Ghulamreza Aghazadeh, unveiled plans for manufacturing 54,000 centrifuges, to enrich enough uranium for hundreds of nuclear warheads. "We are going into mass production," he boasted.<br><br>The Iranian plan is simple: playing the diplomatic game for another two years until Bush becomes a "lame-duck", unable to take military action against the mullahs, while continuing to develop nuclear weapons.<br><br>Thus do not be surprised if, by the end of the 12 days still left of the United Nations' Security Council "deadline", Ahmadinejad announces a "temporary suspension" of uranium enrichment as a "confidence building measure". Also, don't be surprised if some time in June he agrees to ask the Majlis (the Islamic parliament) to consider signing the additional protocols of the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT).<br><br>Such manoeuvres would allow the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) director, Muhammad El-Baradei, and Britain's Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, to congratulate Iran for its "positive gestures" and denounce talk of sanctions, let alone military action. The confidence building measures would never amount to anything, but their announcement would be enough to prevent the G8 summit, hosted by Russia in July, from moving against Iran.<br><br>While waiting Bush out, the Islamic Republic is intent on doing all it can to consolidate its gains in the region. Regime changes in Kabul and Baghdad have altered the status quo in the Middle East. While Bush is determined to create a Middle East that is democratic and pro-Western, Ahmadinejad is equally determined that the region should remain Islamic but pro-Iranian. Iran is now the strongest presence in Afghanistan and Iraq, after the US. It has turned Syria and Lebanon into its outer defences, which means that, for the first time since the 7th century, Iran is militarily present on the coast of the Mediterranean. In a massive political jamboree in Teheran last week, Ahmadinejad also assumed control of the "Jerusalem Cause", which includes annihilating Israel "in one storm", while launching a take-over bid for the cash-starved Hamas government in the West Bank and Gaza.<br><br>Ahmadinejad has also reactivated Iran's network of Shia organisations in Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Yemen, while resuming contact with Sunni fundamentalist groups in Turkey, Egypt, Algeria and Morocco. From childhood, Shia boys are told to cultivate two qualities. The first is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>entezar</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, the capacity patiently to wait for the Imam to return. The second is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>taajil</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, the actions needed to hasten the return. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>For the Imam's return will coincide with an apocalyptic battle between the forces of evil and righteousness, with evil ultimately routed.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> If the infidel loses its nuclear advantage, it could be worn down in a long, low-intensity war at the end of which surrender to Islam would appear the least bad of options. And that could be a signal for the Imam to reappear.<br><br>At the same time, not to forget the task of hastening the Mahdi's second coming, Ahamdinejad will pursue his provocations. On Monday, he was as candid as ever: "To those who are angry with us, we have one thing to say: be angry until you die of anger!"<br><br>His adviser, Hassan Abassi, is rather more eloquent. "The Americans are impatient," he says, "at the first sight of a setback, they run away. We, however, know how to be patient. We have been weaving carpets for thousands of years."<br><br>• Amir Taheri is a former Executive Editor of Kayhan, Iran's largest daily newspaper, but now lives in Europe <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby Sepka » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:38 pm

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Iran wants an atomic bomb because they want to destroy civliization. They've said as much openly, for years, to anyone that will listen. I desperately hope that we'll attack them before they get that bomb. <br><br>-Sepka the Space Weasel <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby nomo » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:43 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I desperately hope that we'll attack them before they get that bomb. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Whaa??<br><br>Excuse my French but what the fuck difference would <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>that </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->make? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:51 pm

You fail to address the question of what nation would NOT want the bomb, considering that is the only device that will obstensibly protect them from the empire.<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby nomo » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:56 pm

Or maybe it's all part of a pattern... From <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/18.html#a7955">CrooksAndLiars</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br>Monica joined "Scarborough Country," last night and left no doubt in the the minds of the viewers that Iran probably already has nukes and will use them against us. Nobody on the panel corrected her ill-informed, warmongering statements. Is this supposed to be political debate or a War propaganda segment?<br><br>Video-<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Scarborough-MonicaC-Iran-Nukes.wmv">WMP</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->Video-<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Scarborough-Monca-Nukesi.mov">QT</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Joe: ...Monica, is there any possibility that the Iranian leaders that are in charge right now would ever be so irrational as to launch a nuclear attack on cities like Los Angeles, New York, Washington, D.C., if they got this nuclear device?<br><br>Monica: Unequivocally, yes, Joe. And in fact, the hypothetical scenario that you just laid out, that hypothetic ground zero is just a few blocks from where I am sitting here tonight. So, it is an incredibly frightening scenario and absolutely within the realm of possibility given the nature of the regime we‘re talking about. This Tehran regime covers the terrorist Trifecta. They do have weapons of mass destruction, possibly even nuclear at this point. They export terror and they do support Al Qaeda.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br>--<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12370988/">Read the transcript</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>The segment featured graphics showing what a nuclear blast would do to New York. That's a great way to influence the American people if the U.S. bombs Iran. What will happen when all the young Iranian kids that are said to love America are hit with bombs? Will they still want regime change in Iran?<br><br><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><br>I rarely ever watch TV, but if the above clips are typical of the fearmongering going on, seems to me like we really are heading for trouble. People watch this shit and take it seriously? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby nomo » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:59 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You fail to address the question of what nation would NOT want the bomb, considering that is the only device that will obstensibly protect them from the empire.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I understand that position, but that's allowing this insanity to spread beyond control. The proper thing to do is for all of us to disarm. This is nothing like the NRA suggesting we arm ourselves to prevent crime. Unlike guns, a nuclear "accident" is not something you treat at the local Emergency Room.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=nomo@rigorousintuition>nomo</A> at: 4/18/06 4:00 pm<br></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby 4911 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:56 pm

either way, i thought the us had weapons specially designed to take out large amounts of troops, leftover from the cold war where the US was numerically inferior, but technologically more advanced. <br><br>Doesnt have to be nukes, it could by fuel air bombs that take out all those fanatics trying to wrap us in kuffayahs. If it comes down to it, Id be more loyal to the US who have supposedly left me the hell alone to do what I like rather than the iranians who supposedly want to force me into their pathetic mental pigeonhole...although upon sober reflection, maybe im just inside the US mental pigeonhole looking out...<br><br>Maybe I could learn to dissolve into a better dimension though, and be done with both of them alltogether. Hmmm, what about Ongs Hat again? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 4/18/06 5:07 pm<br></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby zjurhgvc » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:17 pm

Oh, Please.<br><br>This is mostly disinformation. Ahmedinajad is a Mahdist--so what? Most of the world's nuke programs are run by extremists (Pakistan, US, UK, Israel) of one stripe or another. It's almost a requirement. <br><br>For my money he's a spy for the West, as the most extreme ones often are. He's handing us a casus belli on a golden platter--his rhetoric (mistranslated though it is); he was a dark horse, come-from-behind winner in the election. I just wonder how he pulled that off? <br><br>There has never been an act of "Islamic terror" in the United States, or in the western hemisphere, for that matter, that can't be traced back to CIA/Mossad, or at least proven to be pure Islmic without any Western handlers.<br><br>I really don't think the US will go for Iran until China gives the thumbs-up and a deal is worked out for all parties (banks, industrialists, etc.) involved, including the Iranian elite. Russia and China will back off--if they don't, it will escalate into WWIII. But I hardly think the economic powers that really run this world buy into Armageddon.<br><br>This is truly the darkest time in history that I have seen since I was born (1969). I would hate to think that 1) no one is in control; or 2) the great powers desire a mass die-off now. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby steve vegas » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:38 pm

I agreee wholeheartedly, this guy is working for us, and by us I mean US. Remember the "disputed" grainy Newsweek photo of him as one of the embassy hostage takers (I'm suprised that's not in heavy rotation right about now), remember how he barely won his mayoral race in a low turnout election (12%) , notice how lately even Ali Khameni thinks he's a nutjob (heard words to that effect on the BBC this morning in re nukes), and of course he's talking to and chosen by a "God" that only he can see and hear. He's a cut-out straight out of CIA central casting. I believe The Company has had it's hooks in the Iranian Islamic Revoluition the whole time...the EAST/WEST conflict is entirely manipulated and stage-managed, the only real question is, who benefits? Israel? The underground Nazis? BUSCHCO? The Mullahs/Revolutionary Guard? The people (tee hee)? What about our fucking owners, that elusive 1%? I'll go with that one. I just pray that this is some sort of weird news stunt that will go away and not the next battle in the "Long War". God I hate these bloodsuckers.<br><br>Bombs Away! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby smithtalk » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:28 am

yeah and since when do we believe the analysis of the telegraph of london, owned by hollinger, controlled by richard perle and henry kissinger if i am not mistaken <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby Darklo » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:51 am

I get sucked into the "bomb iran" ferver when I read articles like this, then I wake up and realise that its just a stage managed pile of crap.<br><br>The guys too perfect; he a complete islamo fascist that rants about wiping Isreal off the map whilst enriching weapons grade uranium. <br><br>He appeared just at the right time in world events playing right into the hands of the neo crazies in washington.<br><br>US's real threat is China, and the only way to counter this is control of Oil.<br><br>First Iran, then South America. All along western governments using the fear of reprisals from crazy mullahs to destroy civil rights and install their control grid society. <br><br>Yuck. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby stickdog99 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:41 am

The "frightening truth" is big on frightening and little on truth. <br><br>Has any country with nukes ever dropped one other than the USA at a time when nobody else had any? Why would that be? And if Iran dropped a nuke on anyone, wouldn't that be MAD as well? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby 4911 » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:54 am

Youre all wrong -<br><br><br>Its because of this guy<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jIWWFBvs7A&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edoubleviking%2Ecom%2F">www.youtube.com/watch?v=7...g%2Ecom%2F</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 4/19/06 5:58 am<br></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby Dreams End » Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:15 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The anti-Hussein public relations work is also being done by a number of front groups and pundits with close ties to the Pentagon and White House. These private-sector war boosters are making the rounds of TV news programs and newspaper editorial pages. What won't be apparent to the average US media consumer are the many tangled connections that exist between them.<br><br>The newly-formed Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI) sits at the center of the PR campaign, which is coordinated closely with other groups that are actively promoting an attack on Iraq, including the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, Middle East Forum, Project for a New American Century, the American Enterprise Institute, Hudson Institute, Hoover Institute, and the clients of media relations firm Benador Associations. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Benador and Associates. Kaheri is one of their "members". They took the same role in the build up to Iraq. It's their job. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The frightening truth of why Iran wants a bomb

Postby steve vegas » Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:29 pm

I'll take that guy over Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Robertson, GW Bush, Creflo Dollar or any other fake Christian Preacher any day...<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>bitch i'm flowin straight from the survival scroll<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>his message, though muddied (i might add not as muddied as our commander n' chief's) is actually pretty positive, train lawyers in (what he considers) real justice to get the "widowed(?) fatherless and poor up out the penitentiary". This guy might be the answer to our problems rather than the cause... <p></p><i></i>
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