My DMT Experience

by **antiaristo** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:50 pm

Jeff’s brilliant post has inspired me to tell a little story. In autumn 1995 I went to Amsterdam. My trip coincided with the annual “High Times” Cannabis Cup. I got hold of the event brochure, and the descriptions of all the coffee shops. On Sunday I decided to visit the Bluebird Coffee shop. I had seen that the brochure said that good food was on offer. I did something that morning that I have never done before or since. I took DMT. I arrived at my destination and asked for some food. “We don’t have any.” “But but the guide says you DO!” “We don’t!” “But you must.” “We don’t!”. And they didn’t. I turned on my heels, and walked out. After walking about fifty yards something happened. I turned round, went back to the Bluebird. I walked in, and went back to the same spot at the bar. You could have cut the tension with a knife. I said “Look, I’m sorry. Can we start again?” The release was a physical thing. They relaxed, and they began to talk to me. One man, Hans, got into a long conversation with me. He was a Wizard of some sort. He wore chunky rings with symbols I had never seen. He was a master of the occult, and told me so many things I’d never previously thought about. The polar inch; the sun and the earth; the Pyramid. He told me much of what I would later read in books and here on the Internet, and to be honest it has all merged in my mind. Two things he told me, however, have always stuck in my mind. He told me to fight my enemies on the grounds of morality. And he told me that in every cell of the body there is a tiny piece of something that can detect a single photon. He had a profound effect upon me. I wrote to him from Ireland. The next time I went to Amsterdam I went to look for him at the Bluebird. We greeted, and chatted, but it was a different man. He wanted to talk of worldly things, of money and making a living. I was SO confused and disappointed. We’ve not since communicated. The only difference was the DMT. It was ME that was different, not him. Somehow someone had sent me a message.

by **LoganSquare** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:02 am

Interesting story, Antiaristo. I'm curious as to which of Jeff's post you're referring to. Also, are you sure it was DMT you took? I have never tried it, but my understanding is that it must be smoked or snuffed (when it is not combined with other drugs in Ayahuasca that permit it to be drunk) and that the effect is approx only 15 minuties long, during which you are lucky to stand up and after which you are relatively normal (no longer hallucinating). In any case, it's the conversation you had with Hans that is what's interesting and the point. Are you saying that you did not actually talk to him about those subjects? Do you have any idea who the someone might be? P.S. I'm new here and very much enjoying all the information you provide on the UK. Not well informed in that area at all before.

by **mother** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:28 am

Also, was your friend from the bar using DMT also?

by **darkbeforedawn** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:05 am

Did you ever consider antiaristo, that we are, each one of us, actually composed of a group of "minds" all experiencing "reality" through one physical body. Sometimes, because of drugs or meditation or whatever, a member of this loosely affiliated group (who mostly exits on quite other more liberated dimensions than what we commonly know as reality) will come forward and speak to another likeminded entity existing in some other usually very prosaic person. I have had this experience, though not on drugs. It is very disconcerting. I realized then I don't know "myself" all that well, or anyone else either. Those precious moments have stood out in my life like islands in a dreary sea. Because of them I have come to believe we are not at all what we seem to be.... though still haven't figured out what.

by **antiaristo** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:52 am

Logan, This post <a href="http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2006/03/grave-mysteries-part-two.html#comments">rigorousintuition.blogspo...l#comments</a> It's about DNA EMMTTING PHOTONS. I'm now feeling a bit foolish. Maybe it wasn't DMT. It was a precursor to Ecstasy. Am I confusing my acronyms? It was oral, a tablet. It lasted hours. And I certainly spoke to him. When I went back the previous conversation was acknowledged. It's just that he had nothing more to say. My information about the UK is STRICTLY unconventional. mother, No, he was not. But he rolled a few joints while we spoke (Bluebird specialised in hachis). DBD, I've since heard of such theories, but I've never pursued them. The effect on me was to make me VERY comfortable. As though I were being looked after. Like a Guardian Angel. But that may be because I was already in that frame if mind. Nearly a year beforehand the thought was put into my head "Go to Ireland." It was crazy, but it had saved my life, as I knew at the time I met Hans. I do hope I have not ruined this by citing the wrong mind-altering substance.

by **chillin** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:53 am

Sounds like you may be talking about MDA. Ecstacy is MDMA, I remember MDA as all the 'in love with everything' of E, with no nasty speediness. I don't remember it being particularly visual like DMT is supposed to be, I think I would characterize MDA as an empathogen.

by **LoganSquare** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:18 pm

Jeff's blog looks very interesting--I look forward to rereading it--especially the DNA material (I have Narby's book but haven't yet read it). I am very ignorant regarding biochemistry but I recently listered to a lecture by Dr. Gerard Manning in which he talked about the large amount of "junk" in DNA and thinking it sounded analogous to "dark matter" (in that it probably isn't junk). <a href="http://www.parc.com/events/forum/archive.php">www.parc.com/events/forum/archive.php</a> Are you tying the empathy you had with Hans into the DNA phenomena you mention? I wonder if the relief/release? you experienced after your encounter had anything to do with the noted PTSD therapeutic effect of MDMA. (I'm assuming in that case you had PTSD around the time of the Ireland escape.) A lot of assuming and surmising going on here but I am floundering a bit trying to pull together the threads of these threads--which I hope you will continue.

by **thoughtographer** » Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:37 pm

Do some research on phenylethylamine, endogenous or otherwise, and I think you'll probably notice some more interesting connections. I don't really think it really matters which drug you took. You could probably have a similar experience as the result of fasting. It happened to me.

by **smithtalk** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:45 am

mdma when good is not really speedy at all, you have energy to dance around or chat in an animated fashion but it isnt like the expereince of speed, crappy mdma on the other hand can be speedy, and is often smacky as well where you end up in a club sitting against a wall, looking like shit and feeling as if you brain is suspended 1000ft above your body, if it was good mdma and a fairly low dose anti, sitting chatting for hours and it feeling very profound would be quite in character, dmt has similarities in that two people can smoke the same stuff and one dances around for ten minutes and the other slumps in a chair and stares at the ceiling, it does only last abou ten minutes when smoked and each attempt to repeat it reduces the effects and time lasting, personally when i smoked dmt it looked the roof of the room ripped open to reveal an immense churchlike stucture in wave form technicolour that was almost on fire, i was completely detached from the people i was with and the actual place i was in, i think i staggered about, heard popping garbled sounds, and then very suddenly as if a camera lens zoomed out i found myself laying on my back on the grass in the garden, my girlfriend enquiring how i felt and everything seeming very normal ketamine is the drug that i have seen other people have the weirdest visions and experiences with, contact with aliens, plugging into universal grids etc, all sorts personally i rate acid as the all time best, to be sure mushrooms are brilliant and feel more comfortable on the body but acid really blows your consciousness to bits, i once explored my own brain where i traced my thoughts and ideas as far as into my head as i could go to what seemed like a valve with drops of thought dripping out and washing over the whole, and i am convinced that objects with fuzzy wavy edges as seen on acid appear as they really are, our brain just orders it to make things easier, personally i dont believe in particles, just standing spherical waves passing in and out and resonating together, on lots of acid you feel like you can see and feel that process in action

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