Coppens on "The Nine"

[monster]

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/4954/yahoothe9tnredcircle1zz.png" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Kinda strange. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I don't know that Kucinich had anything to do with TM...but Sheehan on the campaign definitely said they had their sites on getting in on his campaign. <br><br>No time to research it now, but I wasn't saying Kucinich = TM. <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

From what I understand about TM, its a system of techniques. like all of theses systems its what you are taught that counts.<br><br>Just because alien abduction features in mind control disinfo and seems an important aspect of the MC phenomena (ie as a meme to be used for MC purposes as well as disinfo.) Thats not to say there are no aliens or they are all involved in nefarious military plots.<br><br>Or that what is happening is even involving aliens...<br><br>TM seems to work by breaking down previously structured systems in the psyche. A technique that does this could certainly be copoted by MC interests in certain circumstances without being "polluted" by their agenda in every case.<br><br>BTW I think the term "catastrophe" refers to sudden discontinuous changes in systems, and as such can even be used to refer to the change of belief that accompanies a "religious" conversion. <p></p><i></i>

[LilyPatToo]

What did Coppens say about UFOs, aliens and abduction? From all the articles I've read so far on his site (not all, but quite a few of them), he's sounds pretty darn convinced that there have been a suspicious number of intelligence agents mixed up in some of the biggest UFO and abduction incidents on record. Has anyone else done any more reading at his site? We can speculate forever, but he sounds as if he's out there doing original research...shouldn't we be looking more closely at his findings? <br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[bvonahsen]

Coppens is a very good researcher from what I have read so far. His lecture on <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.philipcoppens.com/london02.html"><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>How Scully & Mulder untangled the UFO phenomenon</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--></a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> mirrors where lots of people are these days.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>How Scully & Mulder untangled the UFO phenomenon</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>The X Files and modern UFOlogy<br><br>Delivered at the Fortean Unconvention, London, April 2002<br><br>The latter part of the 1990s could go down into history as the X Generation. The popularity of the X Files created an interest in everything starting with the letter X. In the world of computers, old ideas were repackaged by making the new acronyms start with X, such as XML, which actually stands for extensible… and which therefore does not start with an X. In Pop Idol, the judges were searching for the “X Factor”. Most recently, Microsoft launched its Xbox. This popularity of the letter X offset the balance against the link with that other strange phenomenon, that of the “Ex-partner”.<br><br>The series re-defined the role of UFO-research and gave it a sense of respect, as in the world of televised science-fiction, UFOs had reached the level of being officially researched. Suddenly, discussions on these topics could be held because of the popularity of the series. Everyone wanted a piece of the “X-attraction”. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>He outlnes the trajectory of the X-files:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br>Phase 1: acceptance that UFOs are extra-terrestrial and the search to uncover evidence to prove this</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Originally, the question that was asked was an endeavour to answer “who is out there?” and “does ET exist?”<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Then we got to stage two.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Phase 2: the realisation that the UFO phenomenon is a mirror, if not a smokescreen. The aliens are non-existent and are in fact a diversion to hide illegal, “black budget” crimes.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Area 51 is now taking on its true form: exempt from any law, hence allowed to be the staging ground of anything that is most likely completely illegal, but its slate wiped clean by the president himself. Area 51 is the location where they want to bury far worse things than dead alien bodies.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The last statge is where a lot of us are, including me.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Phase 3: A bit of everything, but nothing completely</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>At end of season 5, in late summer 1998, the X Files reached their climax: a movie. It also signalled the demise of the series. However, first of all, the writers were able to present a mirror and smokescreen of trying to persuade the viewer that Mulder and co. were finally moving rapidly to a full understanding and revelation of the ultimate truth, which seemed to involve the existence of aliens in cahoots with the government after all – though not as we suspected before.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>

[JD]

Another high-powered Council of 9:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Council">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Council</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Founded by Valen 1,000 years before the Shadow War, the Grey Council was made of three representatives from each of the three castes - Worker, Warrior, and Religious - for a total of nine individuals.<br><br>Don't know how many of you followed B5; if you don't know much about it check <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html">www.midwinter.com/lurk/lurker.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> - it was a very complex series with lots of allusions to history and portents of the future. <p></p><i></i>

[chillin]

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://9.yahoo.com/">LOL</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, creepy! <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

Does anyone remember the alien abduction that went wrong, in an ep of the X files.<br><br>The one where the victims, a young couple see a typical grey in a cage next to them smoking a cigarette and saying "This is NOT happening... This is NOT happening..."<br><br>There was more to it than just that, but it should, er, trigger some memories. <p></p><i></i>

[anothershamus]

This is from John Major Jenkins 2012 work: <br><br> We can also determine something very intriguing about the name of the Creation Deity who is present in both 3114 BCE and in 2012 CE. Bolon Yokte means bolon (nine), y- (plural), ok (foot), -te (tree). Although bolon means “nine,” the word is a homophonous pun for balan (jaguar). Mayan folklore and hieroglyphic texts often combine the two designations, for dramatic effect or for emphasising how the Jaguar God is one of the nine Lords of the Night (the Underworld).12 Thus, we have an alternate identification for the Creation Lord Bolon Yokte which means something like “jaguar at the foot/feet of the tree.”<br><br>Perhaps the plural “feet” refers to two feet: the foot of the jaguar and the foot of the tree. Thus, the jaguar foot or paw at the foot of the Creation tree likely represents the Creation Lord Bolon Yokte. He was present at the last World Age creation in 3114 BCE and he will be present at the next one, in 2012.<br> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Article/The%20Mayan%20Lord%20of%20Creation%20and%202012.html">www.newdawnmagazine.com/A...02012.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anothershamus>anothershamus</A> at: 7/14/06 11:53 am<br></i>

[LilyPatToo]

Joe said,<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Does anyone remember the alien abduction that went wrong, in an ep of the X files.<br><br>The one where the victims, a young couple see a typical grey in a cage next to them smoking a cigarette and saying "This is NOT happening... This is NOT happening..."<br><br>There was more to it than just that, but it should, er, trigger some memories.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It did for me. That series began just as my MILABs were ending, due to the military base closures here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Watching it each week kept me thinking hard about those missing hours, which I guess was a Good Thing, though it made me feel very uncomfortable at the time. My aptly-nicknamed hubby The Skeptic snickered and sneered through each episode, while I sat frozen beside him, trying to untangle my mixed-up hazy memories and relate them to what was going on onscreen. At that time in my life, I'd knew next to nothing about government mind control programs and believed I was an alien abductee.<br><br>Chris Carter and his writers knew about the coverup even way back then, but no one else I knew did. When I'd talk to other abductees about the foggy glimpses of both rank-and-file young military people in fatigues and the occasional officer, it would make everyone uncomfortable. They DID want, however, to hear about the two times I saw apparent aliens. Both times, though, I was so drugged that I could barely focus my eyes, so they remain very suspect to me. <br><br>The first time was just a glimpse (through an exam room door left open a crack) of the left side of a very pale, cream-colored alien's head and his shoulder. It was definitely non-human--no ear and oddly smooth and slim. The second was of what looked like a hybrid between one of those cream-colored aliens and a human. It had been made-up with heavy stage-type makeup to look more human and was wearing a curly black wig that made it look appallingly like Michael Jackson--! But the inexpert make-up artist had forgotten to do his hands and they totally creeped me out.<br><br>He was brought into the exam room to have sex with me and we looked equally traumatized and horrified. I felt horribly sorry for him (for us both) since he was obviously a slave. The rest of that nasty one is blessedly hazy, but the overdose of whatever drug they had to use to calm me down and force me to cooperate left me woozy and amnesic for the rest of the day. This was far closer to the Chris Carter version of alien abduction than it was to my abductee friends' rosy view of their alien Space Brothers, so "X-Files" became my uneasy refuge--the one place where what bits and pieces I remembered were validated. Sort of. Actually I wanted desperately to believe that I'd seen real aliens and not dressed-up actors.<br><br>Philip Coppens' research on The Nine keeps turning up links between known, self-professed NWO organizations such as the Round Table group and US intelligence bigwigs like Dulles, who was deeply involved in in the early mind control programs. And of course the disinformationists of the remote viewing projects, who regularly turn up on fringe internet radio shows hawking their books and courses, crop up too. All likely players in the extensive disinfo ops that are hiding something that the US governmernt wants to keep hidden via public discrediting. I think it's actually more than one thing--mind control, with all its socio-political implications, and also black budget aerospace technology.<br><br>Just as I predicted back on the first page of this thread, this is such disturbing material that many people cannot look it squarely in the eye and will seek digressions in all sorts of directions.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[Wombaticus Rex]

Outstanding thread, thanks for an hour well-spent.