Globe and Mail on Exopolitics Toronto UFO symposium

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:43 am

Noteworthy for being largely free of the usual scorn. Wish I could attend, especially to hear Richard Dolan, but I'm lucky to have time to post this. They're coming. Are we ready? This weekend, Toronto will host some of the UFO community's more level-headed types, writes ANTHONY REINHART. They believe alien visitors are on the way, and we should be prepared to make contact On a warm September evening in 1975, while sipping pre-dinner drinks outside with his family, Mike Bird found his truth right here -- not "out there," as they would say later on the X-Files. From his perch on Close Avenue in south Parkdale, Mr. Bird turned his 24-year-old eyes to "a bright, fuzzy ball, just sitting there, shimmering" over Lake Ontario. "I watched it for two hours," says Mr. Bird, now 54, recalling how he fetched his telescope and trained it southward. "My wife looked at it, my parents looked at it. Before long, I was firmly convinced that we were dealing with something real." Tomorrow, at the University of Toronto's Convocation Hall, Mr. Bird will join hundreds of fellow earthlings who, he hopes, will be similarly convinced -- not only that UFOs exist, but that governments know far more about extraterrestrial visitors than they're letting on. "It's not about selling T-shirts," he says of the event. "It's about putting up the best speakers who can represent the position that we are not alone." ... "We think we're bringing forth the best people on the planet," he says of the five speakers on the bill. Most anticipated, perhaps, is the latest addition to that list: Paul Hellyer, a former defence minister in Lester Pearson's Liberal government, who believes that UFOs exist, and that officials have been too quiet about it. Also on the list are American author and historian Richard Dolan; Italian journalist/researcher Paola Harris; researcher Stanton Friedman of New Brunswick; and Stephen Bassett, Washington's only registered UFO research lobbyist and a frequent speaker on "exopolitics" -- the policies humans might employ in the event of contact with extraterrestrial beings. Like many in the movement, Mr. Bird puts great stock in the hundreds of plausible, if unproven, accounts that MUFON has collected in firsthand interviews, often from sources who are easy to trust: astronauts, military and commercial pilots, police officers. "If a pilot says a UFO hovered off the bow of his plane, it either happened or it didn't," Mr. Bird says. "It's either yes or no, and if we're not alone, our planet needs to know that so that we know what to do tomorrow." <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050924/UFOS24/TPNational/Toronto" target="top">Globe and Mail</a>

by **dragon** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:11 pm

They're here, Jeff. Been here for centuries, actually. It is only within living memory that the fact of their presence has come to public awareness. I am told that Christopher Columbus saw them flying into the ocean, but you won't read about that in school. The U.S.Army found aliens in New Mexico while looking for Mexican outlaws in the early 1900s, but that was suppressed. Col.Corso tells that story in his book and interviews. Kenneth Arnold saw them flying over the mountains in Washington State, and then later came the crash at Roswell. Suddenly, everyone is aware of flying saucers and aliens. But, as I said, they've been here for centuries. Surely you've heard of the Illuminati pyramid. Ever wonder who or what is at the top of the pyramid? They are. The ultimate power that has ruled the world for hundreds of years, maybe longer, comes from off this world and maybe even from another dimension. Don't look for this on the CBS Evening News, or as a press release from the White House. The government that we know and think we voted into power is simply an extension of their will. Why do you think the government is always referred to as 'the Administration'? The very word administration implies that the administrators are agents of someone else's will. So since the government is working as the active agent of off-world powers, you'll not see the truth be revealed from that source. But UFOs and aliens are in the public consciousness now, and the public knows that something is going on. They can't stop people from talking about it. What they CAN do, though, is control the subject matter. They can determine what is talked about and set the boundaries of what is acceptable and what is "fringe" or "woo-woo", X-File stuff. Keep the public's attention focused on topics that they consider safe. For those who want to feel like they are doing something, they give you MUFON. MUFON's response to a sighting is to tell the person to 'file a report'. MUFON has a warehouse of fifty years of reports, but they have brought us no closer to the truth. You see what I mean? So we have these little boxes that people are allowed to move about in. "Researchers" and slick paper magazines, and conferences. Boy, do we have conferences! Some of the speakers are sincere and well-intentioned people. They have knowledge that is important and provides pieces of the puzzle, but they don't know or won't talk about the larger picture. Some are Agents of this or that branch of the government. Those who 'know', know who is an Agent, and this is discussed freely among ourselves. The Toronto event is not much different from similar events around the country. Only the names change. Different speakers; different cities. But the effect is the same. The appearance is one of free discussion and assembly. The effect is that no knowledge that is threatening to the status quo is going to be disseminated. Some of these speakers are manufactured celebrities. I'll let y'all speculate on which one in Toronto is the Agent. It is good training. None of these speakers, and none of the ones I've seen on lists of speakers that range from the Bay Area Conference to the annual one in Laughlin or the occasional one in Rachel, Nevada, will be one who has threatened The Powers That Be [a.k.a. The Parasites That Be] enough to have been run off the road or survived an assassination attempt. You have to look for them outside of the safe forums. Do a web search on Phil Schneider. He built the underground bases. His videos are for sale in some places. They tried several times before they were successful in their attempts to kill him. Who among the speakers at any of these conferences can lay claim to anything more intimidating that phone taps or surveillance? There are others who have met with the same fate as Phil Scheider, but you get the point. There are aliens. You bet. Earth is contested territory, and the battle rages as we speak, right now. You'll not learn this on the 'approved' forums or conferences, either. It's a helluva story, and maybe we'll get into it on this board some day. Dragon Z-Force Group. Arizona's Global Tyranny First Response Team. e-mail: captaindragonfarstar@yahoo.com

by **zangtang** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:15 pm

i guess stanton friedman.... its the eyessssss...and the determination to be referred to as 'nuclear physicist'.....

by **Qutb** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:52 pm

"None of these speakers, and none of the ones I've seen on lists of speakers that range from the Bay Area Conference to the annual one in Laughlin or the occasional one in Rachel, Nevada, will be one who has threatened The Powers That Be [a.k.a. The Parasites That Be] enough to have been run off the road or survived an assassination attempt." I take it you are one of those who have threatened them sufficiently to have been run off the road or survived an assassination attempt? <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> "Don't look for this on the CBS Evening News, or as a press release from the White House." Dang, that was precisely where I was going to look for it! Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **dragon** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:11 pm

"I take it you are one of those who have threatened them sufficiently to have been run off the road or survived an assassination attempt?" Yes. More than one. My wife, too. Others in our group, also. It costs them dearly every time they try. So they don't try very often. That's not what occupies most of our time, or where our effort is expended, though. Mostly our effort is spent in limiting their power, denying them territory, and thwarting their plans for the imposition of martial law in this country. Dragon

by **glubglubglub** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:24 pm

Some questions: a): what's your take on that 'egyptian city' found in the grand canyon cerca 1900? b): if you're comfortable talking about it, what've been the assassination attempts and how have you distinguished them from normal unfortate happenings c): what is or are the aliens' motivation? is it understandable d): how do you know all this?

by **DrDebugDU** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:26 pm

You wouldn't buy a used car from any of these people... why are you buying "flying saucers"? Stanton T. Friedman ends every lecture with an appeal for world government which he justifies by asking, "Who speaks for planet Earth... Argentina?" <img src="http://www.hourofthetime.com/images/sfphoto.jpg"/> Would you buy a flying saucer from this man? I was told by one wide eyed attendee at one of Friedman's lectures that, "As a nuclear physicist he has great credibility." A thorough research of his employers for the past 25 years did not yield even one who would verify that Stanton T. Friedman had ever worked for any of them as a "nuclear physicist." <a href="http://www.hourofthetime.com/majestyt.htm">www.hourofthetime.com/majestyt.htm</a>

by **glubglubglub** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:32 pm

tell me that photo's been stretched vertically a bit...otherwise dear lord I don't know what it is that I'm actually looking at. Hey Stanton, why the long face?

by **dragon** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:49 pm

glubglubglub writes: dragon: Some questions: a): what's your take on that 'egyptian city' found in the grand canyon cerca 1900? b): if you're comfortable talking about it, what've been the assassination attempts and how have you distinguished them from normal unfortate happenings c): what is or are the aliens' motivation? is it understandable d): how do you know all this? Let's do the easy ones first. I have nothing to add to what is already known about the 'Egyptian' city found in the Grand Canyon. Sorry about that. Aliens' motivation is easy to understand. They want this place, this planet. And they plan to reduce the population to less than half a billion people. These 'lucky' survivors will be trapped in a techno-slavery society worse than anything ever depicted by Hollywood. This is not rumor or speculation. Their plans are public knowledge, some published by the U.N. Do a search for Global 2000. I think that's the name of the UN document. Do a search for PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY. It's a replay of the New Mexico range wars of Billy the Kid's era, played out on a planetary scale. They may fight among themselves over the spoils, but they all agree that the rest of us have to die or become slaves. Total agreement on that. How do I know all this? Four decades of research and experience. As for the assassination attempts, the story of one is enough to illustrate the situation. If memory serves, it was in March of 2002. Someone who had been a victim of mind control made a break for freedom and came to live with me. Later on, I found out that she was the main squeeze for the man whose finger was on the HAARP button. By that time, we were beginning to have an effect on HAARP and also on the mind control 'cell phone' towers. I am normally a robustly healthy person who almost never even gets the sniffles, much less suffers from any sort of debilitating disease. But soon after her arrival, my health began to fail. I became weaker and weaker. I was headed for the last roundup. I tried every alternative medicine trick I know, and I know a lot of them, and got no help at all. She and I were in bed at 0400 one morning as I tried to deal with what was going on. She came to the realization that it was a psychic attack, and knew exactly where it was coming from and who [the HAARP button man] was doing it. As soon as I realized what was happening, whatever had a hold on me began to lose its power. I began to reclaim mine. Next morning, I was O.K. I went to visit the two associates who had been working with me on the dark magic/NWO problem. I discovered that they had been attacked too. And hurt very badly. It took weeks for my buddy Flash to recover. It is one thing if they attack me. That's expected, that's part of the game. If you attack my people, then there's no redemption from that. I go after you. And I did go after him. On the mental plane, of course. That's where he attacked me from. The last I heard, and this was from a very reliable source, he had gone to that big recycling plant up in the sky. And we were bothered no more by him. After it was over, Flash and I used to joke among ourselves, saying that it is a sign of status and confirmation of our effectiveness that we've been judged to be worth killing. A few more months of experience in the field, and the development of some special weapons turned the tide for us. The hunters have now become the hunted, and that is a situation that we've enjoyed since March of 2003. We have destroyed almost fifty underground bases. We have made them evacuate Mt.Shasta. The Bohemian Grove is no longer usable for their ritual sacrifices. The Skull and Bones building has been encased in an egg-shaped energy field, and is no longer useful as a place to practice black magic. We have shut down clone factories, moon bases, wormholes and the base under the Antarctic ice where all the threads of power in this world ultimately converge. And that's only part of the story. Earth for the earthlings! You're gonna see it. Dragon

by **Dreams End** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:55 pm

Funniest stuff I've read all day.

by **Avalon** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:33 pm

Did you forget how to use quotation marks, DrDebugDU, or are you William Cooper?

by **dbeach** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:54 pm

Hi Dragon I guess that I would be scoffin about all this UFO stuf if I did not see one..BUT I DID!! I saw it close and I mean very close 15-20 feet away..My pal and I freaked..I have a verifiable witness with her..and we have told many others who of course need proof It was silver round with shiney blinking multi-colored lights and it moved very slow after hovering..then disappeared into another dimension is my guess. I have also fought off many abduction attempts in my home..BUT I now realize that many of my lifes nightmares /dream paralysis have been attempts. I actually got my hands around the throat of one of these lil fiends and choked it and it wailed like a wounded animal. Its gonna be a big land grab real soon and ya all been tolr its coming..they gona land and pull out treaties and claim earth is their home and the cowardly pols like bush/bliar will be standing with them cuz the elites sold us humanity. Eisenhawer sold out first and JFK was offed inpart cuz of this alien stuff and other elite agenda stuff. SO ALL of my scoffin pals and most of you fall in that category and I understand its quite unbelievable . .SEEING IS INDEED BELIEVING. ALiens and the ruling elites eat LOOSH So whats new???

by **marykmusic** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:09 am

Dragon's story predates when we met. But that happened soon after. The first attempt on me culminated in the summer of 2001. The brakes went out on my old S-15, in a blinding rainstorm, with my bass and equipment in the back, as I was trying a different and unfamiliar route to my gig. My kids and I lived 'way out east of Snowflake, beyond pavement, and the giant puddle on the road out was already too deep for my truck. So I got hurried instructions for the back way. I missed a turn and could see that my track fizzled out at the bottom of the hill I was on... had to bomb across the high desert, between the junipers, with the hammer down, cross-country. Windshield wipers were definately slappin' time. I finally came across the high-tensile power lines and followed them (one hill took three runs to make) to a road. When I got to the gig, I circled the bar's parking lot seeral times until I finally stopped... Later I traded my crippled truck to a mechanic, who told me, "You know, someone filed your brake lines in three different places!" He was astonished. On Valentine's Day of 2003, after my boys and I had moved to Southern Arizona with Dragon, Flash and I were driving an old Camry to Phoenix for the 5-gallon bucket of resin. The plan was to make a shitload of HHG's and Tower-busters (a small version of same) for the first Sedona run. Heading north out of town, the speed limit had just become 55 mph, and the last traffic light was green. The road was clear except for a big dually pickup and horse trailer in the left-turn lane... and the brown Malibu sedan from the other direction, that suddenly turned in front of us! "We're gonna hit!" Flash shouted as I hit a panic-stop, knowing that I needed a brake job. I still managed to cut my speed in half. Neither of us were wearing seatbelts and we both hit the windshield. He nearly died later, from internal bleeding. The 16-year-old girl maintained from the first that noone was coming. Why did she not see us? Later psychics told us that 1) she was mind-controlled, 2) we were all supposed to die, and 3) there was Angelic help or some other intervention that slowed my car down. Later my attorney said that, looking at the after photos of the Toyota, I must have been going much slower (but I'd just checked it.) Despite my concussion, the next day I went and got another car and Dragon made 200 TB's and 7 huge HHG's (Holy Hand Grenades.) For a basic primer on the naming of these devices:<blockquote>Quote:<hr>A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:<hr></blockquote><blockquote>Quote:<hr>Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."<hr></blockquote><blockquote>Quote:<hr>-- Monty Python, "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"<hr></blockquote> The boys (then aged 9 and 11) and I did Sedona on Sunday. Somone there was definately being naughty. Since then we've improved out protective devices, and our awareness, considerably. --MaryK

by **rain** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:17 am

President Harry S. Truman 33rd President April 12, 1945 -January 20,1953 "...President Harry Truman is the first President to have to deal with the UFO phenomena publicly. There may have been sightings and/or UFO crashes before Truman, but nothing that had to be dealt with publicly. More importantly, Truman was the first President who had to deal with the public relations problems that go along with the UFO phenomena. Right from the start, there was secrecy surrounding the flying saucer subject that seemed to be orchestrated by the government overseen by President Truman. Truman was in fact the President who setup structure of the present intelligence system, and made it a tool for use by future Presidents. In 1946 he set up the Central Intelligence Group, which became the Central Intelligence Agency in 1947. He was the first President in history to get a daily intelligence report (now know as the President Daily Briefing) to bring him up to date on the latest intelligence developments. In 1951, Truman created the Office of Current Intelligence, and in 1952 the National Security Agency. Once elected Truman set out to reconstruct the intelligence system. He believed that it had been a fragmented array of intelligence agencies run by each department. Each department "walled itself off" from other agencies to protect what it had. It was impossible for the President to get behind each wall and gather up the intelligence that he needed. His plan, still in place today, was to create one Director of Central Intelligence, whose job it was to gather up all the intelligence and report it back to the President. There is little doubt that in these early years Truman was very aware, and in total control of the UFO situation."... <a href="http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/ufos-what-did-president-truman-know">theuniversalseduction.com...ruman-know</a>

by **dbeach** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:36 am

Thanx Mary Music and Rain '"Universal Seduction'" the 3 part series should be mandatory reading for ALL in Truth seeker land. Eisenhawer met with both the big reptiles called dragos and the Humanoids whom hitler thought were the ancesters of Aryans..and look very human but are taller and pale skinned.. I NEVER seen any of these 2 types..only the lil sleep invaders called greys Eisenhawer decided to allow the dragos to abduct humans and mutilate cattle and share info.. Read nazi secret bases in anartica by Branton.. Its all connected..the elites sold humanity for shiney vehicles and uber weapons and the aliens will kill off all of the elites too..and amny elites know it,,BUT would rather sell humanity cuz they are part reptile themselves I WOULD LOVE to see a serious discussion about this and not a sniper holiday wwith land mines BUT WHATEVER asle Branton is a Christain not a fringie justa guy who has been through alotta pain it would be a welcomed thread.

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