Coppens on "The Nine"

[JD]

As a point of backgound, Coppens was the researcher for "The Stargate Conspiracy". Here is an interview with him that is interesting <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/17questions_philip.html">www.andrewgough.co.uk/17q...hilip.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>This caught my eye:<br><br>6. What did your research for The Stargate Conspiracy reveal that Lynn and Clive did not include in their book?<br><br>There are two aspects to this: Clive and I did a lot of research, some of which he only used for The Sion Revelation recently. Some is just too complex to bring into words. But since 1999, when the book was written, I do think that my understanding of "The Nine problem" has become transformed. That is what The Stargate Conundrum on my webpage is trying to paint. Almost immediately after that writing, some key individuals from that era made contact with me, saying I was one of the few who had come close to the truth (without it being told to them), which then led to some further realisations... which I will probably never write down. At least not in the near future; not while these key people are still alive. What I will say, is this: The Stargate Conspiracy was right to focus on the Nine. But the story is bigger than when it was written back then. It is all about trying to establish a theocracy on Earth. And that's where that story overlaps with the story of Rennes-le-Château... or rather, that of Perillos. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I know a bit about the Nine, but I'm wondering about Coppens and maybe some of these other researchers' perspective. I want to say "agenda" but that's a bit loaded with judgment.<br><br>It looks like he and others want to say that there is a pre-Christian strain preserved secretly within Christianity (that's what was supposed to be in the Dan Brown book but I sure didn't see much of the "sacred feminine" other than a passing reference.).<br><br>And then he talks about theocracy but seems quite clearly to think this is a good thing. Has he been more explicit or is it more "I'd tell you but it's just too secret" kinda stuff? <br><br>Also, given the intel/Scientology links to the nine (Puharich worked for CIA...) what is Coppens' background? Do folks think he's just a "researcher" who found this "plan" that he then decided to support, or did he go into this with an agenda and could that be part of whatever strange agenda other players in this saga were part of? Bio doesn't say too much about him other than he was a journalist covering conspiracy type stuff.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[JD]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I know a bit about the Nine, but I'm wondering about Coppens and maybe some of these other researchers' perspective. I want to say "agenda" but that's a bit loaded with judgment.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Yes let's not judge things.<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It looks like he and others want to say that there is a pre-Christian strain preserved secretly within Christianity (that's what was supposed to be in the Dan Brown book but I sure didn't see much of the "sacred feminine" other than a passing reference.).<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>OK<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>And then he talks about theocracy but seems quite clearly to think this is a good thing. Has he been more explicit or is it more "I'd tell you but it's just too secret" kinda stuff?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Is this what you are thinking by saying he thinks theocracy is a good thing?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center">"But the book is not a guide... it paints a background, which mixes both history as well as a modern scientific setting. Really, you could say it's a guide or manual for people wondering how to bring about a theocracy ;-) "</div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I think this statement is tounge in cheek - not positive though. Anyone else know enough about Coppens/Picknett/Prince to assess if they are agents wanting to install a theocracy?<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Also, given the intel/Scientology links to the nine (Puharich worked for CIA...) what is Coppens' background? Do folks think he's just a "researcher" who found this "plan" that he then decided to support, or did he go into this with an agenda and could that be part of whatever strange agenda other players in this saga were part of? Bio doesn't say too much about him other than he was a journalist covering conspiracy type stuff.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Don't know. I do wonder about some alternative researchers. For example Hancock and Bauval; I've wondered for a very long time if they are part of a larger agenda. <br><br> I do like Coppens stuff generally though; his website is well worth some exploration whether or not he is on the dark side (which I kinda doubt) <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.philipcoppens.com/">www.philipcoppens.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Is he an agent for dark forces? How the heck am I supposed to know. Have seen little evidence to make any conclusions on. Harumph - that could be asked of nearly anyone who does a good job of dissemination of information. That would of course include DE and RI (consider this flattery and not bait for the firepit!)<br><br>P.S. - trying out some ezCode formating - may get it figured out by the time Jeff moves to a better place<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>

[JD]

I'd posted this way back - never garnered any commentary but I'd be kinda surprised if any RI readiers found the material not relevent as it isi RI type of stuff:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm12.showMessage?topicID=192.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...=192.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>$$$$$$$$<br><br>Hi not sure if this has been posted here or not. If it is new will probably be of interest to most readers.<br><br>Phil Coppens was a researcher on the book "The Stargate Conspiracy". Below is a link to a three chapter chunk of material that never made it into that book.<br><br>Reads like a "who's who" at Rigorous Intuition. <br><br>www.philipcoppens.com/starconundrum.html<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Man is that interesting stuff. You got no interest the first time, I think, because you didn't give us much info on what was in this post. <br><br>I can't recommend this more highly. I don't agree completely with Coppens interpretation of the evidence...(and I haven't finished it all) and I'd also like to know where he got all this info, but it really, really explains a lot and makes a lot of things clear. For one thing, it gives us at least one motivation for why intel types keep putting out "alien" disinfo. But much more in this.<br><br>Jeff, if you haven't read it...it's essential.<br><br>wow. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

bleh...chapter 3 is weak on science and he seems to get sucked into the very disinfo he'd been so careful to address in the first two...even quoting "val valerian" who I've always assumed was disinfo (of course, I could be the one wrong about that....but fits into the same mold of revealed "insider" DISinformation that he mentions elsewhere.<br><br>Still...a fascinating piece...nice stuff on Dames and also, by "synchronicity" about Phillip Corso, who I just had mentioned in the post I made before clicking over to this one. <br><br>Nice to have synchronicity while reading about synchronicity. <p></p><i></i>

[JD]

Apologies on not introducing the previously posted link better.<br><br>Do keep in mind the messenger too: I generally try to be pretty spare in postings and commentary, so the bandwidth I intend to deliver can be high. Obviously sometimes I'm not effective at communicating due to that. <p></p><i></i>

[anothershamus]

interesting stuff. i am familiar with some of the points, the nine is intriguing. brings the JRR Tolkin books to mind. he did a lot of research and i wonder where he got the 'nine' kings of men who were corrupted by the 'dark lord', dark like the trappings of the clergy? <br>he apparently got the "Kings of Aragon" part from the story. and what about this, "That the kings of Aragon possessed a tremendous secret, an artefact even, which was very, very important." 'ring's' a bell don't it? <p></p><i></i>

[LilyPatToo]

Thank you (I think) for that amazing link. I was sitting here stunned after finishing it, thinking that there are a few UFO sites where it should be required reading....but then I realized that the information contained in it would completely dissolve the paradigm that is, I now suspect, the main <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>raison d'etre</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> for their existence in the first place. A paradigm that owes its existence, as I'd begun to suspect, to a particularly devious disinformation program.<br><br>My guess is that many people are going to shy away from reading it after the intro and perhaps the first part and instead discuss tangential material, due to the fact that there is such profoundly disturbing information in those pages for just about anyone who has done any serious research into the fields of mind control/psychological warfare or UFOs/aliens.<br><br>It also provided a clue to a personal mystery of my own that involved one of the people mentioned in the last part. Amazing the things one learns when clicking on links, isn't it? <br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

Everyone into power is searching for Mckenna's "transcendant object at the end of time".<br><br>It seems obvious to me that DMT has something to do with this. Even LG let that slip with his eating menstral blood ref.<br><br>Its also interesting that...<br><br>One of the real dangers of sites like this is that it is bound to be read by spooks and if they are into stealing people's magic, the last thing we want to do is give away our secrets.<br><br>hmmm....<br><br>It is also interesting that the US runs a worldwide network of ELF ground antennae.<br><br>Of course i would never suggest it was possible to invoke cthonic forces on a scale implied by Jack Parsons' sigils in the sky idea, but if it was how would you go about doing it.<br><br>This is a thought experiment. But be careful if you get any wild insights, it might not necessarily be good for us to all hear it. You never know who's listening. <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

renato minozzi and Telsen sao are a bit weird.<br><br>This is the only link I can find to them in English:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.minozzi2023.com/eng/quinta_d/c_telsen.htm" target="top">Jashar and the Pope</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Pretty wild stuff, they were into RV, electronically aided astral travel and stuff.<br><br>Scroogle it and you'll find some links in Italian, if ya can read it. If you can and find some good or relevant info please post it here. <p></p><i></i>

[elpuma]

For what it's worth.... I found this mention of Saddam Hussein's possible connection with Stargate.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>William Henry believes there is a connection between Saddam and Planet X, the alleged "12th Planet."...."Saddam controls an asset infinitely more important and powerful than oil, or even, nuclear weapons," writes Henry. "He controls access to the temples that housed the history [of] humanity's origins, and potentially, the secrets of stargates. Buried deep beneath the sands of Iraq are the secrets of the Shining Ones of Planet X. Saddam's actions reveal that he knows the political value of these secrets."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=38&z=1">www.ancientx.com/nm/anmviewer.asp?a=38&z=1</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

DE, I agree with you, that thing about Val valerian just made me a bit sus. <p></p><i></i>

[ivanbo2003]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Quote:William Henry believes there is a connection between Saddam and Planet X, the alleged "12th Planet."...."Saddam controls an asset infinitely more important and powerful than oil, or even, nuclear weapons," writes Henry. "He controls access to the temples that housed the history [of] humanity's origins, and potentially, the secrets of stargates. Buried deep beneath the sands of Iraq are the secrets of the Shining Ones of Planet X. Saddam's actions reveal that he knows the political value of these secrets."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>And who said(or better: who can prove) that "the shining ones" are our creators.I don't deny that there is something in the Babylon,for sure there is.Only maybe the planet X or those shining bastards(if they exist in the first place) are not ETs from outer space,but demons from the pit of hell?Nah,it is too obvious and too non-scientific way of thinking, to be true.Or is it? <p></p><i></i>

[Joe Hillshoist]

Dunno ivey.<br><br>But it does put me in mind of the HP lovecraft story the haunter of the dark, and the Robert Bloch follow up - the shadow from the steeple.<br><br>I remember reading that story a few years ago, and there are people that reckon the US air bases by certain ancient Iraqi sites are on those sites to access that exact stuff.<br><br>Its pretty unscientific, simply cos its one of those things that doesn't stand up to repeated measurement under varying conditions.<br><br>But on a purely poetic level, Iraq could well be likened to hell on earth. Some people reckon science is a more valid and accurate way to describe the world than poetry. I dunno about that either. <p></p><i></i>