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Re: more on MC

Postby 4911 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:15 pm

no wonder america is going to shit.<br><br>bickering fools <p></p><i></i>
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Re: more on MC

Postby 4911 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:20 pm

its hilarious, actually.<br><br>im laughing at you. <br><br><br>Break out those big coloring books and the dull crayons after all. THAT is where types like you can change things effectively.<br><br>Look at yourselves.<br><br>if it wasnt so funny, it would be sad.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 7/5/06 4:28 pm<br></i>
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Re: more on MC

Postby 4911 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:24 pm

Worst thing I can wish upon your idiotic arses is to be exactly the kind of useless narrowminded pseudo-libertarian jokes that you so obviously already are.<br><br>Good Luck to YOU, folks. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: more on MC

Postby 4911 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:36 pm

..and Hava, the Israeli commando i think youre referring to was a guy who trained a freind of mine in self defence. That freind trained me in the same, for what its worth here (nothing). <br><br>Might have been interesting to talk to you. Unfortunately, the people you associate with here have taken any and all desire or reason for me to ever come back here right out of me.<br><br>Bicker on infinitely, you bunch of procrastinating wankers. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: more on MC

Postby LilyPatToo » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:37 pm

Dreams End, I had absolutely no idea I was in any kind of program until the end of summer in 2004. I thought that my bizarre life was somehow my fault or perhaps that I was the unluckiest, stupidest woman ever born. My life was nothing like other "normal" people's lives and I constantly scrambled to hide the horrific stuff from everyone--even my closest friends. <br><br>It wasn't until my mother died and Lily showed up in my head and I ran into another survivor online at that alien abduction board that the 1000 watt lightbulb came on over my head (about half a century late, but who's counting?!) This woman literally taught me how to go back over my crazy past and look for certain patterns and for interference by people who I learned were program handlers. <br><br>My mind had begun to be flooded with memories since Lily showed up (in January of 2004, 8 months before) and I was terribly upset by them. None were "recovered" memories, since they'd always been there, but I'd successfully buried them in order to stay functional. Many required a trigger of some sort for me to recall them--for one instance, everytime I'd driven past a restaurant on Rt. 422 in western PA, The Lamplighter, since the winter of 1974-5, I'd remembered sitting passively, watching myself being sold by one wealthy businessman to another.<br><br>This memory had never made sense to me and as a result, I'd thrust it out of my mind. But the sight of that restaurant brought it back with the force of a hard blow to the head every single time I passed it. I'd pull over and sit in the parking lot, going over and over the bits that I can remember and wondering if I was losing my mind, since that *couldn't* have happened....the seller was on the board of Gulf & Western and the other guy was the love of my life. Who later sold or gave me to that sociopath I mentioned above, the one with the "flat affect" mistress.<br><br>Very little about my life made sense until I found out about the trauma-based multiple MC programs. Then EVERYTHING made sense. All the tawdry details, all the sadistic narcissists and sociopaths that other women didn't seem to get involved with at all, let alone sequentially. All the things that made my life a really tacky soap opera through my 20's and 30's.<br><br>When I talk about the parts I've managed to figure out, remember that it's from my present vantage point, after over 2 years of research into first DID/MPD and then MC programs. While it was happening, I was kept too traumatized and off-balance emotionally to know what the hell was happening to me. I was as passive, ignorant and malleable as they come.<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>
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Re: more on MC

Postby 4911 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:17 pm

Well ASCII images dont work here. Hm. I must be an anti semite. God, youre all ridiculous.<br><br>Goodbye.<br><br>Had some interesting information come to me here on this blog.<br><br>But that was too much. I am no anti semite and will not be called anti semitic by people who have no clue of who I am.<br> <br>Thanks for whatever.<br><br>Wish you peace.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 7/5/06 5:21 pm<br></i>
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Re: more on MC

Postby 4911 » Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:34 pm

The main rule of conscious creation is: “You create your own reality.” It is the only absolute rule, and what it means is that everything you have experienced in your life is your own creation, it also means that anything you wish to create in your life is never further away than your own fingertips.<br> <br>Find something you think of as beautiful. It can be a flower, the sunrise, whatever fills your heart with joy just to look at it or be with it. Now, while you’re observing it, tell yourself, “I created this.” And pay attention to the feelings that come up as you say this.<br> <br>Other people say things are not their fault, that they are not the cause and are not responsible for it.<br> <br>Responsibility is power. Taking responsibility is taking control. When you take responsibility, you gain power. When you do not take responsibility, you are giving away your power to something or someone else.<br> <br>When you acknowledge that you create reality, all power is in your hands. You become responsible for everything that happens. There is nothing and no one to blame. It puts you in the position of omnipotence.<br> <br>Everyone has power over reality but you have the greatest power over your own reality. Others have power only according to the power you give them.<br> <br>When I am in your world, your world becomes my playground. No one comes into my world without being transformed in one way or another. This is my reality and there is an abundance of good in it. Anything that comes in always changes for the better.<br><br>Now get to it, peace, morons. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=4911>4911</A> at: 7/5/06 5:40 pm<br></i>
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Re: more on MC

Postby havanagilla » Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:04 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My present handler works at Lawrence Livermore Labs<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> would be interested to know more about that and also about the circumstances that brought you over to Israel.<br>that is whatever you are willing to share. feel free to PM me, if that's better. Since I also spent some time in SF...well, who knows. maybe we can get mutual validation re some perps.<br><br>--<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Which is of course......

Postby slimmouse » Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:05 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>When you acknowledge that you create reality, all power is in your hands. You become responsible for everything that happens. There is nothing and no one to blame. It puts you in the position of omnipotence.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Which is of course why those who call the shots, pick upon the young, the defenceless, and the ignorant.<br><br> Most people on this board are neither young nor defenceless.<br><br> And given that they are neither of the above, their is really no excuse for the ignorance.<br><br> He who you fear controls you. Take command. That way WE give ourselves the chance to tell the shitheads where to stick their agenda. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Which is of course......

Postby LilyPatToo » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:10 am

havanagilla, I PMed you in two parts, since it was kind of long.<br><br>Re: being "omnipotent" -- it's an illusion. The whole "you create your own reality" BS that's pushed by the New Age/Human Potential flacks conceals an agenda that is neither enlightened or humane. <br><br>When confronted with a victim of systemized abuse who obviously didn't "create" their hellish reality, since in most cases it began <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>before we were old enough to walk unaided</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, the New-Age-rhymes-with-sewage crowd immediately switches to "OH! Well, you must have CHOSEN it before you were born"....at which point I usually have to be restrained from attacking their smug, blissed-out faces with my bare fists.<br><br>[calming down now]<br><br>If I can avoid rage while being condescended to by these moronic lock-stepping True Believers, I usually point out to them that the reality that I was subjected to for so many years was created by a bunch of seriously twisted narcissic sadists, not by me or by any of the other slaves I met over the years. At least one of those other women is dead by suicide, one's in prison for life for murder, several vanished into the sex trade/criminal underground and here I am--the one who somehow survived--still in a program, still accessed and handled. Tell me again how it was that I--or any of those other tormented women--"chose" our lives?<br><br>LilyPat <p></p><i></i>
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ignorant people

Postby blanc » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:48 am

Lilypat - the story you have outlined makes complete sense to me and correlates with the memory processes of which I have many observed examples. There is a poster on this thread who is unbalanced. That is a different thing to being merely ignorant of the facts - which is something we can all relate to. Many survivor stories relate in some way to the military in Germany. I am thinking right now of a workshop I attended where a presentation was given by a therapist who works for the NHS, mainly centering around her work with a young child survivor. I did post details of a british bookshop which specialises in texts useful to anyone interested in the subject of recovery from abuse, and there were (on my old list from a few years ago) many titles which a person genuinely trying to help a survivor of either child abuse (simple ??) or ra/mc might find worthwhile consulting whilst looking for professional help in their geographical area. professional help in this specialised area must exist in Germany, I met both a German social worker specialising in this some years ago, and a German policeman (same area of specialism).<br>I don't think that many people who had run into serious misfortunes in their lives would buy the snake oil (think positive and you'll be exempt from unpleasantness bottle), and if there are any other survivors of the abusive set-ups where making the victim feel guilty rides high on the agenda, reading this - keep it simple. Without victimisers there would be no victims, the reverse is not true. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Which is of course......

Postby 4911 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:55 am

By the way Lillypat, the girl Im trying to help is jewish. She was my girlfreind for 3 years and I helped her have an entirely new productive life which she is now [beginning to accept and thrive in] while everyone around her including her own family shat on her in the worst possible way. A while ago I began to figure out that shes been so repressed that its likely she has developed alternate personalities to compensate her pain. I asked some of you people on this thread to help me out in discovering an angle to help her accept therapy.<br><br>And all you & your buddies can do is call me an anti-semite and tell me to get therapy? Bunch of assholes.<br><br>Um and then you go about denying that you yourself could possibly not have anything to do with your own predicament?<br><br>Thats perhaps the sickness of the world speaking.<br><br>Transferring responsibility. Always shift the blame to somewhere else - it was the mossad, it was the anti-semites, it was the palestinians, it was the christians, the muslims, it was my 4th grade teacher, it was bush, it was always someone else. Hence the healing will never come from inside and the cycle gets perpetuated ad nauseum.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Which is of course......

Postby 4911 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:03 am

They should rename this thread "asholes in denial" <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Which is of course......

Postby 4911 » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:06 am

I got plenty more where this is coming from . I suggest you help me put an end to this cycle by not speaking about this situation anymore. Its up to you, folks. I aint backing down. Either chill out and let it be or this thread is going supernova. <p></p><i></i>
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more and more bizarre

Postby Dreams End » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:11 am

What was 4911's "anti-semitism"? I hope it wasn't the "Judean people's front" comment. I took that as a reference to Monty Python and frustration at perceived hairsplitting. <br><br>Anyway, 4911...you did come unglued in a way that does make me want to double my emphasis on your getting therapy....but I guess that's all pointless now.<br><br>So Lilly, when you say "sold" were you then, before you understood your role, living with this man consciously but not aware you were a slave....or was the whole thing sorta blanked out. I'm still confused though it sound so close to what my old girlfriend in Atlanta described...the guy was even german but she got away in a couple of weeks.<br><br>I'm just trying to sort out, subjectively, what you THOUGHT was going on in your life at the time. NOne of my business, but I think it might be helpful. <p></p><i></i>
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