Listen to Hannah taken to NWO Denver underground base

by **Joe Hillshoist** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:26 pm

After the footy game last week, one of the players was telling us about his new job. He sells motorbikes. The entire script he has to follow when someone walks in the door is esigned to completely control the customer. Its wild. We are all sitting there going: "You are going to hell aren't you," and "go to ASIO, you won't have to rely on commissions." The entire process isolates the customer and then subjects them to a temporary form of brainwashing or mind control. The key to the whole process is who controls the interaction, and the techniques used are meant to remove control of the process from the customer. For example, if the customer mentions price, my friend has to steer the conversation away from cost for several minutes until he can bring it into the discussion as a seperate event initiated by him. The real killer is this. At the beginning, if someone walks in wanting to buy a specific bike my friend is not supposed to indulge them. Its like :" Well you think you want that bike, but tell me what you are looking for in a bike and I can tell you what you really want." He isn't supposed to serve the customer re "Customer is always right" its the complete opposite, and the reason the customer is always wrong: So the salesman can control the interaction. So from the first moment you are programmed with powerlessness. Thats how salespeople operate. I think if you are smart it could probably be turned against them....

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:31 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I think if you are smart it could probably be turned against them....<hr></blockquote> In his book Rushkoff interviews a retired car salesman who said he finally quit when he worked for a company that based its sales schemes on exactly reverse-engineering a book about 'how not to be taken by salesman.' The old guy was finally too disgusted to continue and chose retirement.

by **Joe Hillshoist** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:01 am

Good on the old fella. But thats it isn't it. That is the tool they use. If you know it you can take advantage of it. This doesn't just apply to salesmen BTW.

by **bamabecky** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:08 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The strongest currents of fear were among less-educated people and poor Southern folk. Hugh Manatee Wins<hr></blockquote> Hugh you admitted a while back that you HAD NOT listened to Hannah. My money says that's still the truth! But you sure have had a lot to say about it all, now haven't you? and <blockquote>Quote:<hr>It's because she sounds full of pomp and show. and Talk about Judgemental, sterotypical and ignorant. All were doing is expressing opinions.xsic bastardx<hr></blockquote> Duh! Thanks for bringing home my point so elequently about bias!<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> And then there was this honest straightforward question from Rain: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Becky, don't you find the assertions made in Hannah's statement at least a little curious ?<hr></blockquote> Can you help me out here Rain by being a bit more specific? What is curious? The fact that she is psychic, or that she rode on an underground railroad in shackles, or that she saw several different kinds of aliens, or that her husband and two of his Viet Nam buddies were able to bust her out of the complex, or that Denver has a more than just an airport located there? Which part? Help me help you. And LilyPatToo contributed this: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I apologize. I do have a tendency to get impatient with some of the Bible Belt people I know and it's not a trait of which I'm proud. It's just that I'm much more skeptical of anyone like Hannah than they are.<hr></blockquote> Man can I ever relate to that LilyPatToo! For 20 years this free thinker was married to a literal fundamentalist. I'm getting to where I can actually read the Bible now and learn things from it (Genesis 6, The Nephilim). I think it boils down to this. Before Hannah, I had read and listened to many accounts and discussions and books and talk radio covering points that came up in Hannah's story. I had heard it all before. Let me say that again, I had heard and read it all before.  So listing to Hannah's ERNEST STRAIGHTFORWARD sweet voice was just another "experience" added to a knowledge base that I had already acquired from previous study. So I had no reason to disbelieve her, none whatsoever. And it also boils down to this too. I have learned to trust my judgment. I do not fear being mind controlled, not one little wit bit! I smell fear from some of you guys! Fear that you are being manipulated. Do not be afraid! Remember, they want you to feel fear! Just learn to trust your instincts and discernment as I have. I know they spend millions trying to mind control us, but it hasn't worked on me lately! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> I control my mind. I use my own discernment and trust it.  I can't stress that enough! Skepticism can be very healthy and it keeps you from being completely gullible. Too much skepticism can prevent you from having an open mind. It's a delicate balance born out of wisdom. Again for the record, I can be fooled - but you had better get up early in the morning to try and fool this gal! Lastly I say this and I do not understand this fully. I'm different from most people. I seem to be able to "sense" truth. I'm not saying this to try and validate Hannah's story. Please, that's not what I'm trying to say here. It's impossible to validate Anybody’s story. What I'm trying to say here is that I was quick to see the lies of 9/11, quick to see the true character of George Bush, quick to learn that JFK was murdered by the shadow government, quick to discern the shadow government, quick to realize there are aliens among us, quick to learn that UFO's are real, quick to learn that Roswell was real, etc. By quick I mean this, once my eyes were opened, I dug into the material with a vengeance to learn the truth. At heart, I’m a genuine truth seeker. Now, I don't understand why I'm like this. I have just learned to trust my instincts. It doesn't mean I'm always right either. Bama Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.

by **bvonahsen** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:08 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I control my mind. I use my own discernment and trust it.<hr></blockquote> As do I, yet I reach different conclusions. My reading is that she is good at what she is doing. She may even believe parts of her story. Personally, I doubt that, I think she's a pathological liar, or a multiple or both. No way do I believe that her husband, not knowing where she was, could just "find" her like that. Nor that he could find what no one else knows or has ever seen and then break her out of a supposed high security base by just waltzing in and taking her home. I do believe that the shadow elite want to promote the myth of aliens and ufos to manipulate and control. I expect that someday in the future they will stage a false flag around a made up "alien invasion" to panic the world into accepting a one world government. They will no doubt use their own advanced technology to fake it and enlist the dumbed down and gulible of all stripes to back up their stage show. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Personal anecdotes do not cut it with me.

by **rain** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:13 pm

becky, it's really late (early) here, so this will have to be brief for now. the 'statement' to which I was specifically referring is the one that begins in big, bold letters - 'Message from Hannah Billups'. there are some huge assertions in that alone, but the one which just leaps right out at me, and you make reference to it yourself too - 'the Sons of God'. becky, who are the 'sons of god'? I'm sure there are elements of truth to Hannah's story, and an agenda, but, and pardon my presumption, I'm also damn sure it's not what you may believe it to be right now. entirely anyone's prerogative which wagon, or in this case, juggernaut, one chooses, within the bounds of free will, to hitch their star to, but please take your time with this one. betrayal is a very bitter pill.

by **bamabecky** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:13 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>No way do I believe that her husband, not knowing where she was, could just "find" her like that. Nor that he could find what no one else knows or has ever seen and then break her out of a supposed high security base by just waltzing in and taking her home. bvonahsen<hr></blockquote> One of my pet peeves is when somebody decides to dispaprage SOMETHING that they know nothing about. Can you honestly tell me that you listened to Hannah's story? If you had you would have learned that Hannah actually was told she was going to Washington State and she believed that. Her son (who also has the gift and the star mark on the same place on his leg as his mom's - son told his Dad EXACTLY where Hannah was. Both Hannah and her son are Psychic. Hannah's son told his Dad that Hannah was in Denver and directed him to the EXACT place. Dad was clueless as to where Hannah was. Now, are you saying bvonahsen, that you do not believe in psychic ability? You said "...what no one else knows or has ever seen..." This is an inaccurate statement, as others have described what they have seen underground in Denver as well. Seek that information out and you will find it. Her husband was not waltzing, he and three others ovserved the building for many hours sneaking up on the place. Read the whole thread please for those details. Do your homework! Bama Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.

by **bamabecky** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:29 pm

I'm not real sure if this is what Hannah meant. But the sons of God are mentioned in Genesis 6. I'll point you toward Patrick Heron's book, The Nephilim[/]. I'll go back and see if I can put her statement into context.....because it didn't "jump out at me".....(again, I have heard so much of all of this before) I'm not sure what you mean by betrayal. I didn't follow that but we can talk later or PM each other when you have time? Ba Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.

by **LilyPatToo** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:04 pm

bamabecky, the thing that I took a long, long time to catch on to was that there are people out there whose job it happens to be to identify susceptible people and feed them utter BS that in some way benefits them (the psy-ops people). They masquerade as spiritual leaders a lot, unfortunately--not just New Age gurus, but also Christian ministers or pundits. The BS isn't fed straight, either--it's mixed with genuine spiritual ideas until it becomes very difficult to separate out the manipulative nonsense. It SOUNDS right to the folks being targeted--exactly right and true and believeable. But to anyone outside the target audience, it doesn't. If you're not a believer of whatever faith is being used as a carrier signal, then it's as if you've got an innoculation against the more outrageous parts of the disinformation. They stick out like a sore thumb and you wonder how on Earth anyone could fall for it....BUT if a competent disinformationist went to work on you, using your own attitudes and beliefs, you'd fall just as fast and just as hard. IQ makes no difference, no matter how much a lot of bright people who've been "played" would argue otherwise. All that can defeat it is a willingness to believe that such dastardly programs are real and the ability to set aside your own ego long enough to look critically at things like Hannah's broadcast. And it helps to familiarize yourself with the modern history of disinformation and COINTELPRO too. You're hanging out on the right site. Jeff has addressed this a number of times and there's more info online if you search for it. LilyPat

by **Attack Ships on Fire** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:07 pm

Bamabecky said: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Do your homework!<hr></blockquote> Forgive me for being so blunt, but you're implying that anyone with an open mind who listened to your friend's story should automatically accept it as the truth. Merely listening to one's story, no matter how earnest or heartfelt it sounds, doesn't mean it happened. The proof you're presenting is circumstantial, and as such it's open to critical examination and questioning. Has Hannah's psychic abilities been documented by independent researchers? Is there video evidence of her psychic abilities? And I have never seen confirming evidence about any secret underground facilities around Denver. If you have evidence that will back up Hannah's story, show us. Understand that I am not trying to attack you, but I won't accept your or Hannah's story without stronger evidence, otherwise, how do I really know what you're telling me is the God's honest truth?

by **bvonahsen** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:24 pm

Becky hun, I did listen. I just don't buy into the mental telepathy BS. I believe that some people have psychic abilities but full blown telepethy? Nope, not without really really really really good proof. The kind you don't just find on the internet. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>others have described what they have seen underground in Denver as well. Seek that information out and you will find it. Her husband was not waltzing, he and three others ovserved the building for many hours sneaking up on the place. Read the whole thread please for those details. Do your homework!<hr></blockquote> People saying they have seen an underground installation is not proof, not even close. Photos would help, even though they can be faked. A map would be good too, her husband has been there, has he produced a map? Can he show where to gain entry to this place that thousands walk past every day while boarding their plane? Can he explain how three guys can just walk past motion sensors, infrared sensors and who knows what else, and into a top secret underground installation? Trust me, sneaking won't get you into such a place any more than you can "sneak" into area 51. Might as well tell me they snuck(sp?) into Cheney's top secret underground bunker in DC. Yeah... riiiiiight...

by **Nonny** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:20 pm

Underground Bases, Missing Children and Extra-Terrestrials What You Need to Know for Your Future By James Casbolt, former MI6 agent – July 4, 2006 <a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4744" target="top">www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4744</a> James Casbolt is telling a story much like Hannah's. Unlike Hannah's story, this is not a 1st person account. "On May 20 I personally received information from a former member of the NSA (National security agency) through a third party. I wish to protect this man’s identity and so I will call him ‘G’. This is the first time this information is being made public. G was subcontracted by the NSA in the late 1980’s and worked for the NSA until 1992. He was a senior electrical engineer in the Los Alamos underground base in New Mexico. G also worked at the Alamo Gordo DUMB in New Mexico and an underground base in Hawaii. He said the Los Alamos base goes two miles underground and is the size of a small city. Whilst there he witnessed rows of caged humans, tall grey aliens and a reptilian alien. G says the NSA was very hard on all subcontractors and people were worked very hard under severe conditions." He has also written on the global drug trade, and there is a link to it in this article. ______________________ Hey bamabecky, This is some really weird sh*t that these two are talking. I can't seem to believe that there could be underground bases. But then, there are subways that have lots of underground shopping. I guess we are just talking WAY underground. Stealing children or kidnapping children -- yes, I believe this happens. ETs ----- I have never met one, but I have certainly read many accounts from those who have had encounters. I guess its ALL together --- so weird. But, I will keep reading because --- I like weird sh**

by **LilyPatToo** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:51 pm

These days, when an ex-spook or an associate of a former spook rushes to tell us stories of underground bases and/or aliens (gray or reptilian or both), my disinformation detector goes off. Does that mean I believe that there aren't underground bases or even aliens? Heck, no. It just means that these topics have been the subject of previous disinfo campaigns, so I cast a wary eye upon new tales told about them. I've had vivid, undream-like dreams of being in an extensive tunnel system over a period of many years. If I make it to the end of the tunnel system, armed black-uniformed guards with dark visors on their black helmets escort me back out into the main tunnels. But from what I've learned about the kind of black-budget technology available to implant false screen memories like that one, I no longer automatically believe that I've been taken underground anymore. This same scenario has been reported by other people who believe they're also alien abductees, BTW. Even to the guards' uniforms. But that doesn't make it real. That makes it more likely that we have been in the same government mind control programs and had the same screen memories implanted. Or, it could be real. But we don't know. And the testimony of spooks makes it LESS likely to be true, after what I've learned in the past 2 years about disinformation operations in this country, the UK, Europe and Australia. Just my 2 cents, YMMV. LilyPat

by **bvonahsen** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:37 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>James Casbolt is telling a story much like Hannah's.<hr></blockquote> And it's an old story that is well known to be disinfo. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I was also told on May 23 from this source that in June there would be a huge amount of HAARP engineered earthquakes on the west coast of America and that the DUMBS there had already been evacuated and shut down. This was one hundred percent accurate because between the 21 and 28 of June there were at least 400 earthquakes on the West Coast of America.<hr></blockquote> yeah, earthquakes on the west coast, what are the odds?

by **Nonny** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:59 pm

Joint Human and Alien Underground Bases - By Sherry Shriner <a href="http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/joint-bases.htm" target="top">www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/joint-bases.htm</a> **My sources of information include people who worked in the labs, abductees taken to the bases, people who assisted in the construction of them, intelligence personnel (NSA, CIA, etc.) and UFO-Inner Earth Researchers...The Dulce Book by Branton Pine Gap - Alice Springs, Australia. This base is a massive multi-leveled facility run by the Club of Rome which, like the Bilderberger organization, is reputedly a cover for the Bavarian Illuminati. Pine Gap is to be a major control center for the New World Order Dictatorship and is equipped with levels of computer terminals tied-in to the major computer mainframes of the world. Dulce Base - under Mt. Archuleta, Dulce, New Mexico. Located close to the Colorado border and situated on the Jicarella Apache Indian Reservation. The town of Dulce is located off U.S. Route 64 population 900-1,700. A small town with one motel and a gas station. The base is located 2.5 miles northwest of Dulce and almost overlooks the town. Joint CIA-Alien base. 95 miles northwest of Los Alamos. Biogenetics Laboratory including but not limited to: Atomic Manipulation, cloning, studies of the human aura, advanced mind control applications, animal/human crossbreeding, visual and audio human chip implantation, abduction and feeding off of humans including children. The Second Largest Reptilian and Grey Base in North America. The Central Hub. -1st Level - contains the garage for Street Maintenance. -2nd Level- contains the garage for trains, shuttles, tunnel-boring machines and UFO maintenance. -3rd Level - the first 3 levels contain government offices. -4th Level - Human Aura Research as well as aspects of Dream Manipulation, Hypnosis, and Telepathy. They can lower your heartbeat with Delta Waves and introduce data and programmed reactions into your mind (for those implanted with brain chips). Most people already are, they just don't know it. -5th Level - witnesses have described huge vats with amber liquid with parts of human bodies being stirred inside. Rows and rows of cages holding men, women and children to be used as food. Perhaps thousands. -6th Level= privately called "Nightmare Hall." It contains the genetic labs. Here are where the crossbreeding experiments of human/animal are done on fish, seals, birds, and mice that are vastly altered from their original forms. There are multi-armed and multi-legged humans and several cages and vats of humanoid bat-like creatures up to 7 feet tall. -7th level - Row after row of 1,000s of humans in cold storage including children. More at link <a href="http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/joint-bases.htm" target="top">www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/joint-bases.htm</a>

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