Listen to Hannah taken to NWO Denver underground base

by **LilyPatToo** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:42 pm

Just FYI--here is a link to the earthquakes in California/Nevada in the past 168 hours -- <a href="http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/quakes0.htm">quake.wr.usgs.gov/recente...uakes0.htm</a> Scroll down and look at the number of them. We get hundreds upon hundreds of earthquakes here--most we can't feel, but some we can. We get them day in and day out, every week of every month, all year long. I just hate it when the disinfo people use a true fact and twist it so that it seems to support their lies-mixed-with-truth. Here's my local map for the past week -- <a href="http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/FaultMaps/122-38.htm">quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/...122-38.htm</a> If you move your mouse over it, the names of the faults will appear. I live on the Hayward Fault ("our fault" ;o) about a quarter inch below that diamond by "Berkeley". We never even felt the 2.4, back on the 3rd, and we were just north of it. California shakes, rattles and rolls daily and it doesn't take priviledged information or psychic predictions to make it happen. We're sitting on the Pacific "Ring of Fire" and magma is moving where the continental plates come together. LilyPat

by **bvonahsen** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:26 am

Nonny - Where is the proof? A web page means nothing. The info you link to here is the same old, just repeated on another site. You have to demand more. Words on a page are meaningless. What few photos I've seen are tiny and blurry and just plain junk. Photos, maps, artifacts would all be nice. And with respect to top secret underground bases we have none. I believe they exist, But I don't believe any contain aliens or whatnot. Not without proof. Ya gotta ask yourself, "How does so-and-so know?" People will say anything for a buck or two. People go to great lengths to make crop circles just to put one over everyone and for a little respect from their friends. I'm not a total disbeliever, just picky. Here is the best alien pic I've found <img src="http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php" style="border:0;"/> Oh wait! That's a 3D render (not mine). This is the supposed real one. <img src="http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php" style="border:0;"/> here it is blown up and enlarged. <img src="http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php" style="border:0;"/> Personally, I think it's a good fake but it is way to small to be sure. There are pleny of folks who can reproduce that too. But its the best I've seen and it isn't nearly good enough.

by **bvonahsen** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:30 am

Well, that didn't work. 2nd try <a href="http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gladiator0lw.jpg">img137.imageshack.us/my.p...tor0lw.jpg</a> <a href="http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nasaalien14qt.jpg">img137.imageshack.us/my.p...en14qt.jpg</a> <a href="http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nasaalien21xq.jpg">img137.imageshack.us/my.p...en21xq.jpg</a>

by **xsic bastardx** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:58 am

Man, this thread has gotten out there, like, the truth is out there! hahahahaha. I don't discount the possibility of NWO bases but with Aliens and levels for Street Maintence? I have been coming across alot of Disinfo stuff these days. I think it's because people are getting close to waking up and taking things back. Or we will just blow eachother up.

by **bamabecky** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:11 pm

Nonny you are such a great researcher! Thanks for joining this discussion. You always raise the bar and challenge us! The very person who claims you provided disinfo and demands your proof failed to give proof of his assertion that it was disinfo. WTF? About Dulce, New Mexico, recently I read an account about some our servicemen getting into a fight with fatalities underground at Dulce. Nonny do you remember seeing that? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>And I have never seen confirming evidence about any secret underground facilities around Denver. If you have evidence that will back up Hannah's story, show us. Attack Ships on Fire <hr></blockquote> Daniel Ott (The Edge Radio) has requested a copy of the documentation that Hannah took from the facility. If you would listen to the interviews, you would know that!!!! <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I just don't buy into the mental telepathy BS. bvonahsen <hr></blockquote> Thanks for your honesty. I, on the other hand do "think" this is possible. This is not religion where folks believe or not believe. There have been many experiments covering this territory. This is very long and took me days to read it, however you may find this educational if you have the patience to read it.>> <a href="http://www.philipcoppens.com/starconundrum.html" target="top">www.philipcoppens.com/starconundrum.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Can he show where to gain entry to this place that thousands walk past every day while boarding their plane? Can he explain how three guys can just walk past motion sensors, infrared sensors and who knows what else, and into a top secret underground installation? Trust me, sneaking won't get you into such a place any more than you can "sneak" into area 51. Might as well tell me they snuck(sp?) into Cheney's top secret underground bunker in DC. Yeah... riiiiiight...<hr></blockquote> Go listen to him describe how it was done over at The Edge Radio website! There are numerous interviews there pertaining to Hannah and Mark. That's what I meant by saying do your homework. Listen to their own words, then comment. You, like others are attacking Becky's words and comments, rather than listening to Hannah or Marks statements. I lose patience with that behavior. Dag Nabbit, go over there and listen to what THEY have had to say. Listen to all of their interviews, or go find another sand box to play in. Please. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>bamabecky, the thing that I took a long, long time to catch on to was that there are people out there whose job it happens to be to identify susceptible people and feed them utter BS that in some way benefits them (the psy-ops people). They masquerade as spiritual leaders a lot, unfortunately--not just New Age gurus, but also Christian ministers or pundits. LilyPatToo<hr></blockquote> and <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Or, it could be real. But we don't know.<hr></blockquote> Here again, LilyPatToo I can really relate to what you are saying. I seldom spend time discussing disinfo artists, unless somebody makes the mistake of calling me one. Then, I waste my time and theirs responding. Otherwise, I just don't worry about it. Period. These days, I can just about spot them a mile away. I give minimal effort to tracking names of disinfo suspects. Did you hear about the Disclosure Project video? <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=243421874735533678" target="top">video.google.com/videoplay?ocid=243421874735533678</a> Take time to watch this video. There have been two recent interviews on RBNLive.com discussing various aspects of this story also. Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada and talked with Charles Hall about his encounter with the Tall Whites... <a href="http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg/0605/20060531_Wed_Greg2.mp3" target="top">mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg/0605/20060531_Wed_Greg2.mp3</a> and this one Sylvia West, told listeners how her friend, Hannah Billips, mysteriously was taken against her will by government and FBI agents connected with the CIA-funded Stargate remote viewing program. <a href="http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg/0605/20060522_Mon_Greg1.mp3" target="top">mp3.rbnlive.com/Greg/0605/20060522_Mon_Greg1.mp3</a> It was after this interview that I contacted Sylvia for the first time because I realized she lived so close to me. I went to her website and looked up her e-mail address. After Hannah's interview on the radio after Mark rescued her, Sylvia and I talked on the phone. Now, just last Friday Tom Horn interviewed Col. Jessie Marcel Jr. son of Major Jessie Marcel (Intelligence officer who was in told to go pick up some debris at the scene of the UFO crash in Roswell in 1947). Jessie Jr. (a medical doctor who is near 70 years old now) has just finished writing a book titled, Roswell, It really happened. According to Tom Horn, Col. Dr. Jessie Marcel Jr. is the only man alive now that the army admits handled the debris at Roswell. You have to be a subscriber to hear this one. I'm not a UFO aficionado, but it does seem to me that things are heating up in this area.....or more programs are discussing this material. Bama Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bamabecky>bamabecky</A> at: 7/9/06 1:15 pm

by **bvonahsen** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:10 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The very person who claims you provided disinfo and demands your proof failed to give proof of his assertion that it was disinfo.<hr></blockquote> I expect you mean me? Not he hun, she, never assume, you know the rest. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"Thanks for your honesty. I, on the other hand do "think" this is possible. This is not religion where folks believe or not believe. There have been many experiments covering this territory. This is very long and took me days to read it, however you may find this educational if you have the patience to read it.<hr></blockquote> remote viewing is not mental telepathy of the kind "Help!, I'm being held captive in room #105 in the Best Western on hwy 65, you know take the interstate to...." <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Go listen to him describe how it was done over at The Edge Radio website! There are numerous interviews there pertaining to Hannah and Mark. That's what I meant by saying do your homework. Listen to their own words, then comment. <hr></blockquote> I did, you seem to think that if I just listen I will agree with you. Not likely. So tell us then, where are the entry points to this underground base? Since you did listen so much better than I perhaps you can answer the question? Where are the documents? Oh, that's right, she buried them. They are conviently unavailable aren't they? So typical of liars like Hanna. Since you know so much can you answer the questions? Where, exactly, is this base? How do you gain entry, there must be a way to get in, how? How do three middle aged vets get in and out of a top secret installation anyway? Where are the documents she took? Where is the entry to the Dulce underground base? Where are the photos, artifacts, hardware or dead aliens? None of which, though rumored, have ever shown up anywhere. You can't answer these questions because this whole thing is meant to distract you from discovering top secret airforce research. BTW, Roswell was a weather balloon.

by **Attack Ships on Fire** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:36 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Daniel Ott (The Edge Radio) has requested a copy of the documentation that Hannah took from the facility. If you would listen to the interviews, you would know that!!!!<hr></blockquote> Asking for confirming evidence and actually seeing confirming evidence are two totally different things. I don't need to listen to interviews to know the difference between the two. Has anyone produced any evidence behind Hannah's claims or not?

by **bamabecky** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:48 pm

The way you phrased you statements did not indicate that YOU KNEW that Hannah promised to get the documentation to Daniel.......you seem to be asking ME for the proof...... <blockquote>Quote:<hr>If you have evidence that will back up Hannah's story, show us. Attack Ships on Fire <hr></blockquote> Bama Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.

by **bamabecky** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:02 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>BTW, Roswell was a weather balloon.<hr></blockquote> Talk about somebody bying into the disinfo! Weather balloon my a**. Perhaps you will avail yourself of Jessie Jr.'s new book? I can't discuss this with you. You expect me to have all the proof and answers. Man, you are being completely unreasonable in my opinion. Sorry, I'm going to ignore your posts from hear on out. I think all you want to do is argue. I want to learn more about these kinds of subjects and talk to others who have an interest in these things. I understand skeptism and research and proof, but the world doesn't always work that way. It would be ever so nice if the world was so easily explained, but it isn't. “There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” Søren Kierkegaard (1813-1855) Bama Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.

by **Attack Ships on Fire** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:03 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>The way you phrased you statements did not indicate that YOU KNEW that Hannah promised to get the documentation to Daniel.......you seem to be asking ME for the proof......<hr></blockquote> It's irregardless whether I've listened to the recordings or not, or even if I know Hannah personally or not. Proof is proof. If Hannah has strong evidence of her tale, this supports her claims. It also makes it harder for naysayers to dismiss her claims. However, if there is no proof to back up Hannah's claims, ultimately her story has no more weight than someone that claims to have been kidnapped by a family of Bigfoots (Albert Osterman) or regularly abducted by grey alien-like beings (Whitley Streiber). I'm not asking Hannah to turn around and show one of her captors tied up and ready to confess, but there are ways to offer supporting evidence that backs up her claim. Some good ideas were brought up earlier in this thread, such as showing documents she took from the base, locating the base on a map so it can be confirmed by others, etc. I could tell a compelling story about being taken to Mars and shown the ruins of a dying civilization, but if I can't prove it, apart from myself, who's to say that it really happened?

by **bamabecky** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:25 pm

I would like to see these documents for "your sake". I don't need that level of proof. On the other hand, her husband has the grave responsibility for keeping her safe from these people. He couldn't give a tinkers da*m what you think or what you demand to see. He knows the truth, loves and cares about his Hannah. It would not surprise me, if he keeps it all burried on that mountain she is talking about. Who could blame him? Would you temp fate if your adored wife's life and liberty was on the line (not to mention his life)? And oh how sweet it would be for this discussion here if he allows Daniel to have a "copy"! Her husband was not very EXPANSIVE with his answers on the radio. I expect her husband to move carefully and deliberately with what he knows and has in his possession, simply because their lives depend on it. As I said above, we just can't have all that we need to understand what is happening. Life is more complicated than that. And you have the choice to chalk it all up as bunk. Life is all about choices. Robert Frost (1874–1963). The Road Not Taken TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth; Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim, Because it was grassy and wanted wear; Though as for that the passing there Had worn them really about the same, And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black. Oh, I kept the first for another day! Yet knowing how way leads on to way, I doubted if I should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. Bama Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.

by **Attack Ships on Fire** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:38 pm

Bamabecky, All I did was ask if there was proof to Hannah's story. I'm glad that Hannah's husband loves her uncondictionally. However, I'm not Hannah's husband. I don't know who she is and I certainly can't vouch for her credibility. That is why I asked for more evidence to support Hannah's story. Apparently there is none forthcoming. I find it ironic that you choose to close every one of your posts with the following observation: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.<hr></blockquote> I asked where I could find more information to prove Hannah's story, and now you tell me that you don't need that kind of proof. So if I were a member of the media, which you claim that you want people to empower to become, I should just accept every story I hear without proof to back up these claims? What makes Hannah's story any more of less valid than the Dulce Papers? What makes Hannah's story any more or less legitmate than any of the open phone line callers on Coast to Coast on any given Friday night? That she has a husband that loves her?! I could quote Ben Jonson right back at cha, but I don't have the book handy at the moment.

by **juno jones** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:04 pm

Becky, From a heartland girl to a southern girl, just beacause someone can quote the bible chapter and verse doen't make them good christian-or certainly better than you, which from what I can read, you certainly do not have to put these people above you in anyway. I have found that most people who like to quote the bible leave out some interesting parts...like what JESUS said. Please, if you are interested in exploring your Christainity (and methodism IS a good place to start, don't let these people like Hannah make you feel guilty or lacking) re-read Matthew 5.5 (or thereabouts, I know what the bible SAYS, but I usually have to poke around a little<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> ) also known as the "sermon on the mount". Jesus blesses the meek and the peacemakers and blasts the people who cry 'lord, lord' as hypocrites. This is true christianity, not some smug assurance that you are going to be one of the 144,000 to win the apocolyse lottery. Indeed, It is scary anymore, but don't let these people yank your chain. You are obviously too sassy for that! Matthew5.5? Please? Juno

by **bamabecky** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:38 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Apparently there is none forthcoming.Attack Ships on Fire <hr></blockquote> Now, that is proof Attack Ships on Fire that you didn't listen to the last interview! This is my point being made over and over by some of you people. You want to get on here and Blah, Blah Blah about a subject that you are not willing to put the time into investigating it. It makes me tired. Hi Juno! I'm confortable with my spiritual path thus far. I do want to learn more and more about the Bible now that I have discovered some very very interesting scriptures that relate to this thread. I have great respect for people who have chapter and verse knowledge. Great respect for them, because it indicates their desire to seek truth. Having said that, I get tired with some of them who as you said pick and choose their truth out of it and then try to force that "truth" on me. A long time ago I decided that I could figure this stuff out as well as they could....or as you said....poke around into it till I get there. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> The Bible talks about the remnent (sp?) but I have not studied THAT, so I just don't know...just don't know...and that's ok for me for now. Hannah believes it and that's ok for her. There is so much to study, so many books, and so little time! Bama Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bamabecky>bamabecky</A> at: 7/9/06 4:41 pm

by **bvonahsen** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:11 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>you seem to be asking ME for the proof......<hr></blockquote> Yes, you bear the burden of proof. You have presented yourself here as pro-Hanna and you say you believe her story. You need to provide some rational justification for your belief, it is the burden all must satisfy who ask others to believe the extraordinary. Saying you believe her because she is a credible witness, or that her husband staunchly supports her just is not enough. Those traits are admirable in personal reltionships but are simply not enough when trying to get to the truth of something. My little brother, the baby of the family, claims that he saw a UFO hover over the last tree of our wind break. (I grew up on a farm, most farms have a line of trees to act as a wind break.) Now I love my brother, and I believe him, but I cannot use his experience as proof that UFOs exist. It simply isn't enough proof. I think it would help you Becky if you made this kind of distinction between personal, social truths and more abstract ones. It's what I do and I think it is at the root at why you may feel a little frustrated with me. I understand that. We are talking about two different things. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"Talk about somebody bying into the disinfo! Weather balloon my a**. Perhaps you will avail yourself of Jessie Jr.'s new book?"<hr></blockquote> There are other books that come to different conclusions. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I can't discuss this with you. You expect me to have all the proof and answers.<hr></blockquote> Yes, I do. It is my right as you are the one making outrageous claims. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Man, you are being completely unreasonable in my opinion. Sorry, I'm going to ignore your posts from hear on out. I think all you want to do is argue.<hr></blockquote> You are absolutely right, I would like to argue the extreme claims made by Hanna, and by extension, you. Argument is a noble pursuit, it seems to me that what you want is for me to just accept whatever Hanna or anyone at all says at face value. I can't do that. I have to have something more than someone's say so. Otherwise, I have no standards at all. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I want to learn more about these kinds of subjects and talk to others who have an interest in these things. I understand skeptism and research and proof, but the world doesn't always work that way. It would be ever so nice if the world was so easily explained, but it isn't.<hr></blockquote> Sure, but don't you want to know the truth? Surely you don't want to waste your time with nonsense, right? If you do then you need to have standards, you need to have some kind of process by which you winnow out the wheat from the chaff. How else will you know what is true? How do we know anything at all? Like you, I don't think the world is so easily divided into skepticism vs belief. That's why I like this place and the RI blog. There is at least the promise of a middle path between those two and Jeff's articles aways seem to walk that line pretty well. That really intrigues me. That's what I'm looking for. I bet we're not really that far apart either. regards Brenda

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