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Rock musician's encounter with entities

Postby professorpan » Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:17 pm

It's easy to dismiss such stories as drug-fueled delusions, but I find the wealth of similar entity reports compelling. I found this one while flipping through Esquire magazine in my doctor's office.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.charm.net/~profpan/2005/04/scott-weiland-entity-encounter.html">www.charm.net/~profpan/20...unter.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Rock musician's encounter with entities

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:41 pm

That's fascinating, thanks.<br><br>In a biography of Mick Jagger I read years ago, there was an interesting passage - which, unfortunately, I only vaguely recall - about how spooky Kenneth Anger could be. "Dabbling" was one thing, but seeing Anger seemingly literally to vanish was something else. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 4/27/05 8:42 pm<br></i>
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Re: Rock musician's encounter with entities

Postby Seventhsonjr » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:48 pm

Where's Carlos Castaneda when you need him? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Rock musician's encounter with entities Hypnotized

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:28 pm

<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:teal;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:x-small;"> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Hypnotized<br><br>It’s the same kind of story<br>That seems to come down from long ago<br>Two friends having coffee together<br>When something flies by their window<br>It might be out on that lawn<br>Which is wide, at least half of a playing field<br>Because there’s no explaining what your imagination<br>Can make you see and feel<br><br>Seems like a dream<br>(they) got me hypnotized<br><br>Now it’s not a meaningless question<br>To ask if they’ve been and gone<br>I remember a talk about north<br>Carolina and a strange, strange pond<br>You see the sides were like glass<br>In the thick of a forest without a road<br>And if any man’s ever made that land<br>Then I think it would’ve showed<br><br>Seems like a dream<br>(they) got me hypnotized<br><br>They say there’s a place down in mexico<br>Where a man can fly over mountains and hills<br>And he don’t need an airplane or some kind of engine<br>And he never will<br>Now you know it’s a meaningless question<br>To ask if those stories are right<br>’cause what matters most if the feeling<br>You get when you’re hypnotized<br><br>Seems like a dream<br>(they) got me hypnotized <br> <br>Bob Welch</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Greatest Fleetwood Mac Song Ever!

Postby DBtv » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:58 pm

I started my weekly college rock radio show with that tune in '74. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Greatest Fleetwood Mac Song Ever!

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:25 am

<!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:teal;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:small;"><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> Had you heard anything about Hypnotized being about a UFO and such?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/fmoldest-thumb.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Greatest Fleetwood Mac Song Ever!

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:14 am

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Seems like a dream<br>(they) got me hypnotized</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>All this time, seems, and I never made the connection!<br><br>But - embarrassing admission - I don't think I even know the song. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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don't know the song???

Postby whatevevr » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:15 pm

Ooh,ooh.... you must be young<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>Aah, to be young again<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START |I --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif ALT="|I"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: don't know the song???

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:07 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Ooh,ooh.... you must be young"</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Wish it were so. Just wasn't a Fleetwood Mac fan. I think at the time that album was released, I was still listening to <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Aqualung</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. And I'm not proud to admit I still am. <p></p><i></i>
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re: there’s no explaining ...

Postby han shan » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:30 pm

..<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Now it’s not a meaningless question<br>To ask if they’ve been and gone<br>I remember a talk about north<br>Carolina and a strange, strange pond<br>You see the sides were like glass<br>In the thick of a forest without a road<br>And if any man’s ever made that land<br>Then I think it would’ve showed<br><br>Seems like a dream<br>(they) got me hypnotized</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>gotta be one of the coolest songs ever penned; think<br>Quicksilver Messenger Service did a version as well... <br><br>There's no mistaking the reference to UFOs;heard a story that may well be apocryphral that Welsh wrote the <br>song after a UFO experience...<br><br>As for Rock& Roll & the unexplained, Keith Richards did a <br>tiny interview w/ Rolling Stone oh, maybe 10-15 years ago, wherein<br>he briefly alludes to his marriage <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>w/extra-normal powers/entities</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, as an explanation for his guitar skills,<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>ala</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Robert Johnson.when pressed by the interviewer<br>he refused to elaborate. Hendrix used to allude to similar things.<br><br>btw, seemslikeadream, the picture is grand. tx<br><br><br>..<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Their Satanic Majesties

Postby Pants Elk » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:04 pm

Is this where the Rolling Stones devil-sympathising thread starts? Because it promises to go on forever.<br>All I know is, back in the day, there was some music you just couldn't trip out to, because it was ugly, because it called up demons. The Stones - whoah - you just didn't go there. Think Altamont. They conjured that up, in a ritual invocation started much earlier.<br><br>"Please allow me to introduce myself <br>I'm a man of wealth and taste <br>I've been around for a long, long year <br>Stole many a man's soul and faith <br><br>And I was 'round when Jesus Christ <br>Had his moment of doubt and pain <br>Made damn sure that Pilate <br>Washed his hands and sealed his fate <br><br>Pleased to meet you <br>Hope you guess my name <br>But what's puzzling you <br>Is the nature of my game <br><br>I stuck around at St. Petersburg <br>When I saw it was a-time for a change <br>Killed the czar and his ministers <br>Anastasia screamed in vain <br><br>I rode a tank <br>Held a general's rank <br>When the blitzkrieg raged <br>And the bodies stank <br><br>Pleased to meet you <br>Hope you guess my name, oh yeah <br>Ah, what's puzzling you <br>Is the nature of my game, ah yeah <br><br>(whoo whoo, whoo whoo) <br>I watched with glee <br>While your kings and queens (whoo whoo)<br>Fought for ten decades (whoo whoo)<br>For the gods they made (whoo whoo) <br><br>I shouted out, (whoo whoo)<br>"Who killed the Kennedys?" (whoo whoo)<br>When after all (whoo whoo)<br>It was you and me (whoo whoo)<br><br>Let me please introduce myself (whoo whoo)<br>I'm a man of wealth and taste (whoo whoo)<br>And I laid traps for troubadours (whoo whoo)<br>Who get killed before they reached Bombay (whoo whoo, whoo whoo)<br><br>Pleased to meet you (whoo whoo)<br>Hope you guessed my name, (whoo whoo) oh yeah (whoo whoo)<br>But what's puzzling you (whoo whoo)<br>Is the nature of my game(whoo whoo), oh yeah, get down, baby (whoo whoo)<br><br>Pleased to meet you (whoo whoo)<br>Hope you guessed my name, (whoo whoo) oh yeah (whoo whoo)<br>But what's confusing you (whoo whoo)<br>Is just the nature of my game (whoo whoo) um yeah (whoo whoo)<br><br>Just as every cop is a criminal (whoo whoo)<br>And all the sinners saints (whoo whoo)<br>As heads is tails (whoo whoo)<br>Just call me Lucifer (whoo whoo)<br>'Cause I'm in need of some restraint (whoo whoo)<br><br>So if you meet me (whoo whoo)<br>Have some courtesy (whoo whoo)<br>Have some sympathy, (whoo whoo) and some taste (whoo whoo)<br>Use all your well-learned politesse (whoo whoo)<br>Or I'll lay your(whoo whoo) soul to waste,(whoo whoo), um yeah (whoo whoo) <br><br>Pleased to meet you (whoo whoo)<br>Hope you guessed my name, (whoo whoo) um yeah (whoo, whoo)<br>But what's puzzling you (whoo whoo)<br>Is the nature of my game, (whoo whoo) um mean it, (whoo whoo) get down <br>(whoo whoo) (whoo whoo)<br>(whoo whoo) (whoo whoo)<br><br>Woo, who (whoo whoo)<br>Oh yeah, get on down (whoo whoo)<br>Oh yeah (whoo whoo)<br>(whoo whoo, whoo whoo)<br>(whoo whoo, whoo whoo)........<br><br>Oh yeah! (whoo, whoo) <br>Tell me baby,(whoo whoo) what's my name(whoo whoo) <br>Tell me honey,(whoo whoo) can ya guess my name (whoo whoo)<br>Tell me baby, (whoo whoo) what's my name (whoo whoo)<br>I tell you one time, (whoo whoo) you're to blame (whoo whoo)<br><br>---SNIP----<br><br>"As heads is tails?"<br><br>And all those WHOO WHOOs ...<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pantselk>Pants Elk</A> at: 4/28/05 12:07 pm<br></i>
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Re: Their Satanic Majesties

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:23 pm

I don't know how much "Sympathy for the Devil" was influenced by the Process Church of the Final Judgement, but it could be its virtual hymn:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/134_process.shtml" target="top">The Process Church: Sympathy for the Devil</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Also, Jagger composed the soundtrack - though he's properly credited with "sound," because he's just noodling on a moog synthesizer - for Anger's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Invocation of My Demon Brother</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, which was cobbled together from Anger's original footage of <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Lucifer Rising</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. (Interestingly, there's another Manson connection, through Bobby Beausoleil.) Anton LeVey appears in red devil costume and horns.<br><br>I appreciate some of Anger's work, but I watched <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Invocation</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> last month for the first time, and found it a very discomforting experience. Which was the point.<br><br>A <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.ubu.com/sound/jagger.html" target="top">review</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br>INVOCATION OF MY DEMON BROTHER The most daemonic of Anger's films, as well as the most fast moving. The style of Anger really comes through during this film. Invocation is composed of the remaining footage of what was projected to be Lucifer Rising filmed in San Francisco in 1966 - 1968. After lead actor Bobby Beausoleil had a falling out with Anger the primary footage was stolen from the filmmaker's home, which inspired Kenneth to take out an obituary in the Village Voice in 1968. He later moved to London and met up with Mick Jagger. Kenneth by this time began editing two other versions of what was to be Lucifer Rising, although by the final edit it had taken on a different form which led to the incarnation of "Invocation of my Demon Brother", a wonderful collage of sonic terror and subversion and fast paced ritual ambiance which found the union of the circle and the swastika, a swirling power source of solar energy. To quote Tony Rayns: "Invocation of my Demon Brother is a fast moving, very concentrated collage of Magick elements, in effect like the last thirty seconds of Scorpio extended to ten minutes. Anger calls it 'my most out-front-film'. A satyr pipes (an equivalent to the three knocks at the start of the Aquarium Arcanum which Anger used as a prologue to Pleasure Dome, but has now dropped) and the wand bearer wakes to begin the ritual: a Midnight Mass where the powers of Darkness gather to 'shadow forth' Lucifer. Kenneth Anger himself as the Magus, his face black and gold, great flowing robe, bathed in red light, dances with passionate energy around the Swirling Spiral Force, the solar swastika. The Powers: the Acolyte, the Brother and Sister of the Rainbow, his Satanic Majesty, assist and participate. Joke: a hurried procession down the stairs , but a scorpion stings in the tail: "ZAP Your pregnant, that's witchcraft". Pause: the Magus with a copy of Crowley's novel Moonchild. Renewed force, flame, and a cremation. The Magus dances, is triumphant, exults, the solar swastika in one hand, flaming script in the other. And Lucifer Breaks through..." The complexity and detailed work of Anger really presents itself in this short film. Invocation was made on A,B and C film rolls, and the C roll is one image made into a loop, the soldiers jumping from the helicopter. The music of the film is cutting, ugly and nerve wracking, composed by Mick Jagger on a Moog Synthesizer. Anger referred to it as 'an attack on the sensorium'.<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 4/28/05 12:29 pm<br></i>
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re:Stones...&

Postby hanshan » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:29 pm

..<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Stones, touring America in 1969, hired members of the Hell's Angels to provide security during a free concert at Altamont Speedway six miles outside of San Francisco, and paid them in beer. About 300,000 fans showed up, and as some rushed the four-foot-high stage, they were brutalized by the Angels with weighted pool cues. An 18-year-old man, waving a gun, was stabbed to death by an Angel, and we see the murder replayed, in slow motion, in Gimme Shelter. (Two other concertgoers died in a hit-and-run, and another drowned in a puddle.) As the horror plays itself out, the cameras home in on the nighttime masses of freaked stoners as if it were the Island of Dr. Moreau.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://"></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/movies/reviews/3654/" target="top">newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/movies/reviews/3654/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://"></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=99&eid=114&section=essay&page=2" target="top">www.criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=99&eid=114&section=essay&page=2</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://"></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.gadflyonline.com/archive/MarchApril01/archive-cocksucker.html" target="top">www.gadflyonline.com/archive/MarchApril01/archive-cocksucker.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br>Godard</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>One Plus One</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://"></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063665/" target="top">www.imdb.com/title/tt0063665/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://"></a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://elshaw.tripod.com/jlg/One_Plus_One.htm" target="top">elshaw.tripod.com/jlg/One_Plus_One.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->All the above depict <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Stones</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> as showmen/ dilettantes. In no respect did they take <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>any</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> responsiblity. Draw your own conclusions... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: re:no explaining ...QUICKSILVER MESSENGER SERVICE

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:06 pm

<!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.goodbear.com/concert_art/09_02-05_66.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>THE QUICKSILVER/DEAD FEUD <br><br>"We had gone to San Francisco to get the Dead, because they had come and got us real bad. We had this roadie who wasn't too good at carrying equipment, so we turned him into a cook - and every night all of the people living on the ranch, the group and the roadies and the friends and the girls, we'd all gather together to eat. We I lived in six different buildings spread around the ranch, but every evening we'd come together to dine and then smoke ourselves silly until we passed out! Well, the Dead knew we did this, and they figured that the best time to catch us off guard was in our after-dinner relaxation. You see, I'd had this big argument with Jerry Garcia; we spent hours arguing the relative merits of cowboys and Indians ... it was at a Musicians Union meeting, in fact. For a laugh, a lot of us had decided to attend a Union meeting and these old straights who ran the Union almost collapsed; they'd never seen such a bunch of longhaired musicians before ... and there were so many of us; people from the Airplane, the Charlatans, the Dead, Quicksilver, the Mystery Trend, the Great Society, Big Brother ... it was just a whole gang of us, and these guys weren't ready for us at all - it was a really funny evening. <br><br>"Anyway, Garcia was saying things like 'Cowboys are lame, Indians are much hipper, nobody loves cowboys anymore but Indians are groovy because they're into flowers and stuff ... you guys are nowhere'. He was saying it all in fun, but he was giving me a hard time, so I said 'Yeah? Well our band says that the Grateful Dead eats shit'. We got into this slanging match until all these straight musician guys were cowering in the corners ... we were really digging it, but we made out that our tempers were fraying and we started to get really hot under the collar, shouting and stuff. When 1 got home that night, I told the other guys that we ought to go and get the Dead for saying that cowboys aren't as cool as Indians, and they said 'yeah, let's get em', but then we got stoned and forgot all about it. <br><br>"A couple of nights later, we'd just finished eating and we were all swacked out as usual, when suddenly there's all this whooping and hollering ... the dogs were barking like crazy, my wolf was howling, and we didn't know what was going on. Then suddenly the door bursts open and the entire Grateful Dead family crash in on us, whooping and shouting, all in feathers and warpaint, all high on acid, all crazy. Well, they got us real bad; they were all over us before we even realised what was happening - brandishing tomahawks and firing arrows into the walls ... you never saw anything I Ike it in your life. <br><br>"Needless to say, our egos were well and truly crushed and ground into the dirt because the Dead were all going around saying that our band eats shit Dino was with us at the time and being part Indian, he took it rather more personally than was intended - but anyway, we made up our minds that the Dead were not going to be allowed to get away with it ... no chance. <br><br>"Two weeks later, the Dead were due to play the Fillmore, sharing the bill with the Airplane, and that's where we reckoned we'd get them. The plan was for us to wear all our cowboy gear, masks and guns and take over the stage during their set ... we knew it wouldn't be difficult because the Dead were always out of their heads in those days. For those two weeks we rehearsed solidly, harder than we ever had before, until we'd perfected a 15 minute version of 'Kaw Liga was a Wooden Indian', which we intended to play at the Fillmore to humiliate them. Then we went out and bought cap guns, because we wanted to make a bit of noise as well as brandishing real guns ... we were going to frighten the piss out of them; wait till they'd finished their first song and strike, knowing they'd be too spaced out to resist. <br><br>"We called Bill Graham, explained what we were going to do, and he said it was cool and promised not to tell a soul, and we let Gleason in on it too ... but that was it - no-one else would know who these masked men were! We were going to grab them and handcuff them to their speaker cabinets, because they had got these huge things that Owsley had got for them, with big handles ... can you imagine how dramatic it was going to be??? Garcia and his gang being handcuffed and chained at gunpoint and watching us play 'Kaw Liga' on their instruments! Then they'd know that cowboys were cooler than Indians after all! <br><br>"Everything was taken care of ... everything except the X factor. <br><br>"The Fillmore was in a predominantly Black, ghetto area of San Francisco, and earlier that day some young kid had broken a jeweller's window, grabbed something and run - and this cop arrived on the scene, pulled his .357 Magnum and yelled 'halt or I fire' ... well, he fired and hit this kid right in the back of his head. The velocity of the bullet just about took his head off, and the whole neighbour hood went nuts about it ... the tension of the entire area just tightened up to breaking point. And we arrived a few hours later, knowing nothing of what had happened ... maybe you can imagine the effect of half a dozen freaks suddenly appearing outside the Fillmore with masks and guns. <br><br>"The cops were on us before we'd moved ten feet. Our protestations were useless, of course; they didn't want to know it was a joke - they were in no mood for joking. We tried to explain that we were going into the Fillmore to play, and that this was our stage gear, but they wouldn't believe that we were anything less than hippie revolutionaries bent on capitalising on the indignation of the Black population. As soon as we realised that it was no use, we tried to disperse but they got Jim Murray and David Freiberg and threw them in the tank with all these Blacks who were feeling real hostile towards any whites because they'd heard about the shooting of the kid. Everything was explained in the end, but David and Jim weren't released for 3 days - and we never got the Dead after all ... in fact, we eventually did, but I'm not going to talk about that". <br><br><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:teal;font-family:comic sans ms;font-size:small;"><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> <br>'Pride of Man'<br>The meek shall cause your tower to fall, make of you a pyre of flame,<br>Oh you who dwell on many waters, rich in treasures, wide in fame.<br>you bow unto your God of gold, your pride of might shall be a shame,<br>For only God can lead His people back unto the Earth again.<br><br>Oh God, Pride of Man, broken in the dust again.<br>A Holy mountain be restored, and mercy on that people, that people</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></span><!--EZCODE FONT END--> <p></p><i></i>
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bad vibrations

Postby whatever » Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:41 pm

I am so loving this thread! Haven't heard anyone talk about QuickSilver Messenger Service in a very long time. And I never liked the Stones, now I can see why, or really the Doors either. They just didn't have the best vibrations for me. The mind can go to some pretty weird places,(especially w/ drugs) but mostly by people who are already weird to begin with.<br><br>"Ooh,ooh.... you must be young"<br><br>Wish it were so. Just wasn't a Fleetwood Mac fan. I think at the time that album was released, I was still listening to Aqualung. And I'm not proud to admit I still am.<br><br>Hard to beat Jethro Tull <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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