Stargate Conspiracy -- anyone read it?

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Stargate Conspiracy -- anyone read it?

Postby nashvillebrook » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:44 am

i've seen this book mentioned a few times and was wondering if anyone here has read it. whaddya think? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Stargate Conspiracy -- anyone read it?

Postby Dreams End » Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:41 am

Jeff's been quoting from it for the last few blog entries. It's on my list. <p></p><i></i>
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think i'll put it on my Amazon order

Postby nashvillebrook » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:56 pm

i couldn't remember if the "reviews" here were positive or negative. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: think i'll put it on my Amazon order

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:50 pm

I'll be quoting it in my next post, too. Was hoping it would be ready for today, but it'll probably be tomorrow.<br><br>I think it has an unfortunate title. Too much dime-store sensationalism. It's actually quite a sober study with a lot of documentation. <p></p><i></i>
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FWIW, Peter Levenda

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:07 pm

recommends the book in <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Sinister Forces</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->:<br><br>Puharich's involvement with the mysterious Dr Vinod is critical to an understanding of some of the more arcane aspects of this study, since Puharich and the group that formed around him and his Round Table became involved in everything from MK-ULTRA to the Kennedy assassination to archaeological digs in Egypt to the New Age movement to extraterrestrial intelligences.<br><br>Some of this story is reported amply and well in a book by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince, The Stargate Conspiracy.... [It] is arguably their best - and most thoroughly documented - work to date, for it reveals relationships that have been little noted even among writers on occult themes. <p></p><i></i>
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Geller

Postby robertdreed » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:20 pm

Jeff, have you read <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The Geller Papers</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->?<br><br>It was originally published in 1976. Now it's available for free, on-line <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.uri-geller.com/books/geller-papers/gpap.htm">www.uri-geller.com/books/...s/gpap.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Not an endorsement of Geller or anything, but you may find some data bits in there you haven't already checked out. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Geller

Postby slimmouse » Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:56 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It was originally published in 1976. Now it's available for free, on-line www.uri-geller.com/books/...s/gpap.htm<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Thanks for the link RDR.<br><br> Geller has always fascinated me, from the time I saw him on TV growing seeds out of his hand <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Another pile of reading to add to the neverending list sigh.<br><br> I remember him once relating a story as to the strangest experience he'd ever had.<br><br> To paraphrase;<br><br> He was once out jogging around Central Park ( I think), when he suddenly lost control of his balance, and felt himself momentarily blacking out. In a nano second he found himself crashing thru his glass coffee table back in his apartment.<br><br> Ive had similar blacking out experiences, where Ive come round to find myself at home on the sofa, contemplating the mystery. That was quickly dispersed however the following day, when a friend phoned to check I was still alive, because having passed out in the taxi after a beer too many, they had to get me into my house and dump me on the sofa<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif ALT=" >D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Geller

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:24 pm

Haven't read that, Robert. Thanks for the link.<br><br>I always feel a great embarassment introducing Geller to the discussion. I think of him as representing the Delmart Vreeland wing of the military-occult complex. Like Vreeland, he's something of a con artist. But also like Vreeland, he's evidently more than a con artist. <br><br>Interesting stuff about Geller in Jim Schnabel's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Remote Viewers</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, too. Here's how the chapter "The Trickster" opens:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Uri Geller is at the wheel of the car, driving through a residential section near Menlo Park. He is wearing a blindfold. An Apollo 14 astronaut, Edgar Mitchell...is in the front seat. It's not a dream, it's real, and Hal Purtoff [head of the SRI remote viewing program] is there in the back seat, bracing for a crash, and meanwhile Geller navigates, supposedly through ESP, and describes all the scenery just to let everyone know that, despite the blindfold, he's still in control.<br><br>The car that just passed us is red!<br>Okay, Uri...<br>Stop sign!<br>Uri, that's enough, now....<br>There is a nice house over there.<br>You've shown us, Uri....<br>Another car - a big one, white.<br>Okay, you got it, Uri. Now....<br><br>And Puthoff is thinking that this is a hell of a way for Geller to inaugurate a serious scientific investigation - with the blindfolded driving routine, an old stage-magician's trick.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: SC

Postby Gouda » Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:03 am

I read SC last year but have been re-reading sections since Jeff started working with it. I can’t offer much in comment on the subject matter they explore because SC was really quite an intro for me, and I have still not read any of the books by the central figures that P & P examine, such as Hurtak, Hancock, Bauval, Temple etc. OK, now that I have disqualified myself from a meaningful review...<br><br>Despite that, I think P & P are convincing in exposing and documenting the background and agenda(s) of these guys (if not so convincing about the Conspiracy itself). If P & P were posting on this board in a thread called “stargate conspirators exposed!”, they would do a dreams end and proldic number on the racist, authoritarian underpinnings of the CIA-backed “New Age” orientation of discussion board users “Puharich”, “Bauval”, “Hurtak” etc. vis-à-vis Alice Bailey / Edgar Cayce psychic totalitarianism, for example. That was valuable. P & P call them out as disinfo agents and worse. Thus, Jeff would lock that thread. So better to keep it in book form at Borders. Seriously though, the book is compelling and I think does right in its analysis of these trends, these claims, these agendas. This was helpful for me. <br><br>One thing I noticed is that P & P were writing as if the conspiracy they were investigating was/is at the threshold of worldwide fulfillment, something that would soon matter to and absorb the psyche of everyone from the retail clerk in Kentucky to the bus driver in Guatemala to the sweat shop laborer in China. The book reads as if even my granny could be directly taken in, and soon!! Hell, she has no idea what the CIA really is. She is not so sure which planet Mars is from the sun. (Love her to pieces). The Nine? They are gonna get my granny? <br><br>I was not convinced of the immanency of the conspiracy at hand. (Though that is easy for me to say in hindsight – I was fairly looking forward to a Y2K meltdown way back when). The “plot” in all senses of the word, gripped me, that was the thing; but not as if it would grip all. <br><br>Another thing: it smacks of esoteric elite infighting even as it exposes such infighting and crafty maneuvering. Is this merely a little pre-emptive maneuvering between esoteric researchers to foil each other’s zeitgeist? Are they contributing to the forging of the zeitgeist; are they just part of the zeitgeist; or are they also victims of the zeitgeist? <br><br>I am not saying P & P are (wittingly) involved in such infighting or intrigue - and it is at least clear they were working feverishly to spoil the stargate conspiracy (which is still in the works). Cheers to that regardless of immanancy. <br><br>Or: could it also be that the urgency of getting this book out before the 2000 (non)events at Giza had as much to do with marketing as with forestalling a possible sinister agenda via published warning? I do not know enough about the integrity of P & P to determine if they are driven by market timing as much as the desire to expose these clowns. Regardless, I did not let my education get in the way of their exigency.<br><br>There is undoubtedly an urgency enveloping us all (my granny feels it – though she is one for the revelations of St. John of Patmos), and so I guess that is understandable, since we do not know the day or hour, and by the fact that there are doings behind the scenes not in our interest - but I think what P & P were looking at, what is going on here, is/was not something that would have been “ready to serve” to the world that quickly. I'd think conspiracy/conspiracies of this nature and magnitude and weirdness would need incubating a while longer – millions, millions more chinese whispers of "the nine" needed before anyone could be taken in by them - or defend against them. <br><br>Agree w/ Jeff about the silly title. Read the book anyway. Looking forward to more of Jeff’s posts on this. <br> <p></p><i></i>
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