orgone and zappers....

by **Ted the dog** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:58 pm

I saw that someone made a reference to "zappers" on another thread today and it peaked my interest. Can any of you post your experiences with orgone and/or zappers? if you think the whole thing is hogwash, can you state why? any and all experiences would be appreciated.

by **marykmusic** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:40 pm

"Orgone" is simply a word for the universal energy or life-force that is called so many different names. Dr. Hulda Clark published a schematic for a simple zapper in her book, "The Cure for All Diseases." Of course, the AMA/Big Pharma cartel hounded her out of the country for this, and she continues to battle lawsuits and threats of criminal charges (they did this to Hoxsey, Royal Rife... y'all know the stories.) My next-older brother Don started making zappers more than ten years ago, based on Dr. Clark's design. A few years later, he upgraded his hand-held zapper and added some crystals, and something he had just been introduced to: orgonite. He called it The Terminator, and it had a smoother energy and some subtle effects that were unexpected. He had known about Wilhelm Reich for a long time, but these subtle effects were something new. The Terminator lead to his development of the modern Cloudbuster/Chmbuster... but that's a different story. In May of '98 I spent several weeks with him in Ashland, Oregon. I learned how to make the pre-orgonite zapper, and started using it on myself and kids, and my daughter's dog that had a severe skin condition. She was a Shar-Pei cross, black (except where half her hair was gone, which was an ugly pink.) Because her previous owner spent so much money on vet bills and trying to fix it (to no avail), and couldn't stand ugly, he gave her to us. Two things happened right away: the Rosacea on my face started clearing up. 1) I had had a lot of attempts to do it via my M.D.; the last (very expensive) cream worked somewhat, but it burned to use it. But in a week of using the zapper for 20 minutes per day, it was obviously working. About 90% was gone within a month... 2) used it on the dog, and she expelled a LOT or worms over the next couple of days (I"d used a wormer from my vet regularly, so it was amazing that there were so many!) It took about 6 months to see a difference in the dog's hair coat, but all of her hair grew back in and she looked great for many years, until she died of old age. I've used it on horses, kids with colds, myself with nasty infections... lots of things. On Don's website are many different stories, including the fact that there are many different varieties of zappers out there, and not all are Clark-based. I saw some severe burns on people who had used other types, then came to Don for help. World Without Parasites: <a href="http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com" target="top">www.worldwithoutparasites.com</a> The cloudbuster, Holy Hand Grenade, and subsequent devices were an offshoot of zappers, directed at a different kind of parasite: the two-legged kind. --MaryK

by **Ted the dog** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:09 pm

thanks Mary Kay. I appreciate it. I've seen you mention these before on here, I think. "Two things happened right away: the Rosacea on my face started clearing up. 1) I had had a lot of attempts to do it via my M.D.; the last (very expensive) cream worked somewhat, but it burned to use it. But in a week of using the zapper for 20 minutes per day, it was obviously working. About 90% was gone within a month... " that's funny...I have a similar story...A few years ago I was burned in an accident while stripping paint from an old three story house. We were using powerful chemical paint strippers, heat guns and that chemical "peel" you can use on old paint. the heat was unbearable (summer, 90 degree heat) and some of the chemical stripper got on my face. I washed it off and everything seemed fine, but I came down with a sunburn-like condition over the next few days. after about 3 or 4 days, it went away and my face was back to normal. about a year later I started having really weird issues with the skin on my face. I always looked sunburned and my cheeks were slightly swollen. I went to a dermatologist and he diagnosed me with rosacea, but thought it was strange due to my age (25 or 26 at the time) and the fact that I didn't have it in my family. He asked me if I had ever worked around chemicals and I told him the story. He figured that's where it came from. Over the past year and a half I've been going to him to get these treatments for it, via laser therapy. (VERY expensive, but covered by insurance if the doc knows how to bill it....my doctor is a really nice guy and figured all that out beforehand) and I can say it's improved so much you can't even tell I'd ever had the symptoms as bad as I had. there's still a little light residual redness on my left cheek bone area (driver's side) and although I hadn't thought of the zapper as being a tool to remedy rosacea, if it works for that, then great. Let me ask you this though....(and it's not because I doubt you...I'm just looking for more info...)...if the zapper is "zapping" parasites and viruses, etc etc....why would it also cure rosacea?

by **Prof Hex** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:41 pm

Ted, try using calendula gel (available at most health food stores like Whole Foods, etc). I had seborrheic dermatitis with many of the symptoms you described. It really helped reduce the redness (along with Witch Hazel, applied topically).

by **manxkat** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:25 pm

Ted the Dog, glad you brought up this subject. I first saw a reference to Orgonite on a comment at RI the other day and was reading about the chem-busters and cloud-busters and those sorts of things. I try to be open minded, but I'm also a skeptic if something sounds too good to be true. I then came across the Zapper website that MaryKMusic mentioned on another thread and also I believe on the links page at Orgonite.info and was very intrigued -- still am actually. The thing is, on the WorldWithoutParasites.com site, there are some pretty extraordinary claims -- cures for cancer and AIDS specifically. When I hear these kinds of claims, I cannot help but be skeptical. I mean, if it could really do that for the millions who suffer from these terminal diseases, why the hell wouldn't this product be selling like hotcakes? Sure, one can always argue that the pharmaceutical companies own the world, but still, it's hard to believe there wouldn't be a HUGE grassroots movement and skyrocketing sales of these devices if indeed they really do cure cancer and AIDS, along with the myriad of other ailments mentioned. I sent an e-mail to info@worldwithoutparasites.com yesterday asking about their return policy, simply because I'd like to know if I'll be stuck with a $135 gadget that doesn't do what is claimed. I have a friend who was into selling Xango for awhile -- he absolutely swore it cured his allergies and many other problems, and he had stories of miracle cures including his sister, her dog, on and on. I know he sincerely believed all this too, because he's a VERY close friend. So, I bought a bottle and tried it -- nothing for me. He explained that it would take more than just a bottle, so I spent $250 or more on a case of the stuff -- had my 86-year-old mother on it, another close friend who suffers from diabetes, high blood pressure, allergies, many ailments, and I tried it faithfully as well for a couple of weeks. There wasn't any improvement for ANY of us. So, nothing personal MaryKMusic, but I just need a lot more info and at least some sort of return policy from WorldWithoutParasites.com before I'll purchase a Zapper. Maybe my e-mail inquiry got zapped by their spam filter, but I haven't heard back.... and, there's nothing on their web site that talks about a return policy.

by **Nonny** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:51 pm

I recently bought Don's zapper. Started using it last Tuesday (so tomorrow it will be one week) Had strong pain behind my left knee for a month. Gone by the second day. Tried to do some washing machine repair last Fri. (this involved climbing up on it to undo the hoses behing it, tipping it forward to see underneath, etc) well... I pulled something in my leg) Next morning, no pain. The best thing so far is clarity in thinking. An alertness. Better concentration. So far, so good. I'm glad I bought it.

by **marykmusic** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:06 pm

TedTheDog asked: <a href="http://if" target="top">if the zapper is "zapping" parasites and viruses, etc etc....why would it also cure rosacea? </a> What Don and I discussed at the time was that Rosacea is a combination of a fungus and viral symbiosis. This is why some things will work for a while, then other things... Little worms and such aren't all that's meant by "parasites." Viri and bacteria are, as well. The basic premise is this: All life forms vibrate at specific frequecies. The zapper is "tuned" to work on life-forms that live somewhere below the 400 mHtz (may not be getting the exact figure, but it's something like that) level. The beneficial "critters in our gut, for example, are just above that level and so are not adversely affected... you all know about antibiotics killing off the bacteria we need to digest our food, for example. Millions of these aren't sold, but thousands certainly are. Some of Don's adventures include going to Namibia and curing whole villages of AIDS with zappers. The people couldn't so much as afford the batteries, so they stood in line to share just a few among the crowd. Thanks, Nonny, for bringing up this: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The best thing so far is clarity in thinking. An alertness. Better concentration.<hr></blockquote> That's the subtle energy that the orgonite created. My life certainly took a turn for the better when I got my first Terminator, in the spring of 2000. --MaryK

by **dbeach** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:56 pm

<a href="http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/strongholds.html">www.thewatcherfiles.com/strongholds.html</a> I bought the orgone blasters from this site and she even sent me some free ones cuz the order got delayed..they have helped me BUT whats the zappers??

by **dragon** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:26 am

There are probably a dozen known, proven, cures for cancer. They don't sell like hot cakes because they cannot be patented. Big Pharma is not interested in something that cannot be patented. And the controlled media are not going to talk about it, either. That leaves word of mouth, internet, and alternative news sources. I've been around the alternative health movement since the days when Adelle Davis was all we had. Back in the days when we were all known as "food faddists" and they made fun of Linus Pauling for his belief in vitamin C. Pauling was in his nineties when he died. The average doctor dies in his fifties, so I am told. Truth of the matter is, if you go around curing cancer, and are unwise enough to be public about it, nasty things will happen to you. First, they'll try to scare you off with an IRS audit. Or maybe they'll just trash your office and steal your files. If that's not enough to get the message through, then their next moves get more direct. You could be arrested on phony charges. You may have to leave the country. Or you may just get killed. Look up the stories about guys like Hoxsey, Rife, Reich, and some others. The most recent one that I can think of is the guy who used oxygen therapy to cure cancer. He wound up in prison. This is what happens when you find a cure for cancer. You run head-on into the sickness management industry, and there's just too much money in it to let someone come in and show people how to cure themselves. Even with no public policy, even in the face of suppression by very powerful forces, the fact is that over a third of American people do seek alternate care now. And some of this stuff has been recognized by the health insurance companies. I guess they figured that if they can get people actually well, then they get to keep more of that pile of insurance money for themselves instead of paying it out. And people ARE taking more control over their health, and over their lives. Organic foods are in big demand, and you find them in supermarkets now. Back in the days of Adelle Davis and Linus Pauling, we had to go to health food stores to get simple stuff like vitamin C. Now, you see it and all kinds of other stuff advertised on TV and sold in supermarkets. Cancer cells are anaerobic. They cannot live in an oxygenated environment. Take in enough oxygen and the problem is over. You do that with food grade hydrogen peroxide taken internally. Or with stabilized oxygen, which tastes much better. Colloidal silver will kill cancer, and so will ionic silver. There are lots of proven treatments out there, but there's no money in it for the drug companies. And the zapper WILL kill cancer. And I used it on my best buddy, Flash, to cure his diabetes. But, when he got cured of it, he went back to eating donuts and sugary foods again, and the diabetes came back! So, I gave him the zapper again and he cured it the second time. The thing works on cancer, but you gotta use your head. Don't do like Flash and go back to doing the things that put you in that condition in the first place. And I don't know if you'll get a response from Don about the return policy. Last I heard, he was in Florida looking for a boat. He's gonna take it out on the water with a cloudbuster, I think. Not sure if he's minding the store right now or not. There are other sources. Dragon

by **heath7** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:35 am

Dragon, what are some great level-headed resources on the web that cover alternative therapies and their benefits? Something both rigorously skeptical and open-minded at the same time.

by **dbeach** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:40 am

<a href="http://essiac-info.org/">essiac-info.org/</a> essiac tea is allegedly another cancer cure I tried the stuff but found some other stuff..I got atrthitis after serving in VN.. AGENT ORANGE??? Ask any informed VN Vet about trusting the US govt.. IT DONT PAY!! Uncle Sugar been known to tell falsehoods about medicines cures causes chemicals ect.. govt lying now about the anthrax vaccine and DU[Depleted Uranium} which BTW is a huge scandal about to hit..the DOD and VA are shuffling aroung personel to keep it all quiet.. "my momma told me ya better shop around oh yeh shop around.."

by **marykmusic** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:28 am

Vaccine damage by the anthrax and other substances is an even bigger story than Agent Orange... because ALL the troops were exposed, over many years. There was a well-known court case about someone who refused t get tha anthrax and faced courts-martial... it went to the supreme court and won! Now it's "voluntary." Right. Of course, the extreme health problems faced by those who didn't even go overseas and yet have similar conditions to those who did... and the DU is even worse than Agent Orange, also. When will the military people figure it out? They're worse than cannon-fodder. Some of the people Don sells zappers to are suffering these very problems, and it has helped. Of course, he has to call everyone a "researcher" to cover his legal ass. Can't say you actually HEAL anyone, or you get in big trouble. --MaryK

by **dbeach** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:53 am

anthrax vaccine is esstianilly pure posoin and adolph ghoulianni has his very own anthrax clean-up business.. watch that boy..when he goes somewhere crimes follow. Very strange him showing up in London on 7/7/05.

by **manxkat** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:08 am

Thanks marykmusic and dragon for your insights and additional info. I'm definitely a believer in alternative medicine. The Zapper sounds like a wonderful device -- I'll get one and loan it to my friend with diabetes. (He'll keep eating donuts though.... I know him too well.... *sigh*) I just bought a book on hydrogen peroxide. I'll have to start reading that soon because it sounds like quite an amazing substance. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=manxkat@rigorousintuition>manxkat</A> at: 10/11/05 12:10 am

by **pugzleyca3** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:55 am

I've been scratching the surface of the hydrogen peroxide therapy and it sounds very interesting to me. I just got something today that is actually working for me. I have had the flu, sinus problems, low grade fever, general feel like crap foggy brained and really bad cough. This is called Samento and is an extract from a plant called Cat's Claw. Well, anyway, I ordered it because of acid reflux and heartburn. I started taking it at 2 pm today and by 11:30 tonight, my fever was completely gone. My nose stopped running within 2 hours of the first dose I took. And my cough is so much better. I'm not coughing nearly as much as I was. In short, the results I've gotten have been amazing for the flu. One advertisement said it could kick the flu in 8 hours, but I never believed anything could do that. After the first and 2nd dose of the Samento, I got the WORST heartburn and acid reflux I ever had in my life. Then it went away and has not returned. Usually I cannot go more than a couple of hrs. without tums or am on Prilosec all the time. I cut the Prilosec days ago because it interferes with Samento if you take them at the same time. Anway, that's my story fresh off the press for today. Hope it isn't too boring. But I can tell you, that this stuff really worked and I find few things anymore that hold up to their claims.

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