Non-Humans At Chemical Weapons Arsenal

by JD » Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:50 pm

Full story below, but we can start with my questions: Here's the story: An army guard that was patrolling inside a 500-acre secured section of the chemical weapens aresenal. We’re talking nerve gas here, so it would have to be pretty damed secure…at least you would hope so. The guard said he in his vehicle, and anywhere from 70 to 165 feet away from three individuals who were not human. The area is described as brightly lit. Wouldn't you think he would have been able to distinguish between humans and animals at 70 to 165 feet in brightly lit conditions? He must have called in that the intruders were not simply wildlife, or there would have been no emergency. I like the language "MAY HAVE mistaken wildlife for human intruders" and "There's no doubt in my mind that the officer saw something, but it wasn't human" The guard was in a vehicle and three non-human individuals who managed to elude the him and ran into the woods? Because there was an alarm called, I think it is safe to assume the non-humans were INSIDE the secure perimeter? How did they get OUTSIDE the perimeter and into the woods with the presumably armed guard watching from his vehicle only 70 to 165 feet away? Did they jump the high fence of the perimeter? It doesn't say the perimeter was breached with tunnel or anything. Do you know any wildlife that could be mistaken for a human intruder at a range of about 100 feet in a brightly lit area, and then jump or climb a high fence at the perimeter of the depot quickly enough to get away from an armed guard? Was there video surveillance? Again, it wasn’t human, but they don’t know what it could be? The guard couldn't offer a description that can reconcile to known non-human entities, like deer or a bear? Overall the story as reported makes little sense to me. Which begs the biggest question of all: is this merely some form of misinformation planted for reasons we have no idea of? <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ARSENAL_SECURITY?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US">hosted.ap.org/dynamic/sto...SECTION=US</a> Jan 26, 6:11 PM EST Arsenal Chief: 'Intruders' Likely Wildlife By DANIEL CONNOLLY Associated Press Writer LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) -- A guard who reported a security breach inside the nation's second-largest chemical weapons depot may have mistaken wildlife for human intruders, authorities said Thursday. The commander of the Pine Bluff Arsenal said officials combed the area but found no footprints or other evidence of human intruders. "There's no doubt in my mind that the officer saw something, but it wasn't human," Col. Brian S. Lindamood said. "At this time I have no idea what it could be." Lindamood said the officer was patrolling inside a 500-acre secure section of the arsenal where chemical weapons, including nerve agents, are stored. "He reported that he saw three individuals on foot inside the (secure area) and when he approached in his vehicle they ran into the woods," he said. Lindamood said the guard was between 70 and 165 feet away at the time and the area was brightly lit. The guard won't face any disciplinary measures. "In fact, he was commended for the promptness of his report, for the detail contained in his report, and for his diligence in following up until his backup arrived," Lindamood said. The 13,000-acre Army complex, located a half-hour south of Little Rock, began destroying its chemical weapons stockpile in March to comply with international treaties. © 2006 The Associated Press

by **dbeach** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:01 pm

UFOs were swamp gas what a gas!!! >"some humans ain't human some people ain't kind" The USAF is the only ones left to not believe in aliens lil joke but the joke ain't on me..

by **Ted the dog** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:31 pm

wow...that article is pretty strange, actually. the headline reads, "Arsenal Chief: 'Intruders' Likely Wildlife"...yet what was actually said was: "The commander of the Pine Bluff Arsenal said officials combed the area but found no footprints or other evidence of human intruders." ...and also, is the "Arsenal Chief" the same person as "Col. Brian S. Lindamood"? they keep making references to the "Arsenal Chief", "The Commander of the Pine Bluff Arsenal ", and "authorities"...as in "authorities say..."....are all three of those titles held by one person? Because if Lindamood is the "Arsenal Chief", "The commander of the Pine Bluff Arsenal" and part of "the authorities", why is his quote completely out of character with what the "official word" is? Lindamood: "There's no doubt in my mind that the officer saw something, but it wasn't human...."....."At this time I have no idea what it could be." "He reported that he saw three individuals on foot inside the (secure area) and when he approached in his vehicle they ran into the woods," he said." at no time during the article is ANYONE in charge quoted as saying anything about it being wildlife! and if Lindamood is the chief/commander/authority, why is it quoted that someone is saying "Oh, it's just wildlife..."? I suppose it could be blamed on crappy reporting....but it's pretty hilarious, actually....they're reporting the entire incident as "...wildlife.....yeah, see it was wildlife that somehow got into a secure military area...did I mention that the wildlife also appeared to be human-ESQUE (not really human, but also not quite human...but still easily mistakable for human upon initial inspection), can climb fences and leave no trace behind? yep...WILDLIFE..." amazing. I love when the secretly terrified, so-called "rational scientific skeptics" who use "Occam's Razor" as the end-all, be-all answer to everything they encounter in life, completely ignore Occam's Razor when it comes to shit they actually CAN'T explain.

by **professorpan** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:33 pm

I was just getting ready to post this article when I saw it here. There are undoubtedly cameras all over the place at that facility. One would expect the critters -- whatever they were -- would be caught on tape.

by **Ted the dog** » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:06 pm

This is pretty interesting....the article that ran before the one in the original post is here: <a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11021203/">msnbc.msn.com/id/11021203/</a> Security breached at chemical weapons arsenal Three enter restricted zone; guards inspecting vehicles leaving facility The Associated Press Updated: 11:15 a.m. ET Jan. 25, 2006 WHITE HALL, Ark. - The Army stepped up security at an arsenal where chemical weapons are stored after three people entered a restricted zone, officials said Wednesday. The security measures were taken as a precaution at the Pine Bluff Arsenal after the intrusion at a forested federal preserve 30 miles south of Little Rock. Officials didn’t know what the three people were doing there, spokeswoman Cheryl Avery said. “We are still assessing the situation,” Avery said. She wouldn’t say when the people entered the property or if they had left. The Arkansas Department of Emergency Management was notified of the intrusion but was given no indication of the seriousness of the incident, said spokeswoman Kathy Hedrick. Guards at the arsenal’s gates were giving careful inspections to vehicles leaving the facility Wednesday morning. Other than the enhanced security, operations were continuing as normal, officials said. The Pine Bluff Arsenal stores 12 percent of the military’s chemical weapons, which include nerve gas and mustard gas. It is the nation’s second largest stockpile. The materials are being incinerated, and officials have said that will take about five years to complete. So here there's no mention at all that these "people" weren't human...nothing about mistaking them for animals, entities, etc.....this article was posted on the 25th. The original article's contents are pretty closely mirrored in this link from MSNBC: <a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11048895/">msnbc.msn.com/id/11048895/</a> ‘Intruders’ at arsenal may have been animals Guard reported security breach at Arkansas chemical weapons depot The Associated Press Updated: 6:50 a.m. ET Jan. 27, 2006 LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - A guard who reported a security breach inside the nation’s second-largest chemical weapons depot may have mistaken wildlife for human intruders, authorities said Thursday. The commander of the Pine Bluff Arsenal said officials combed the area but found no footprints or other evidence of human intruders. “There’s no doubt in my mind that the officer saw something, but it wasn’t human,” Col. Brian S. Lindamood said. “At this time I have no idea what it could be.” Lindamood said the officer was patrolling inside a 500-acre secure section of the arsenal where chemical weapons, including nerve agents, are stored. “He reported that he saw three individuals on foot inside the (secure area) and when he approached in his vehicle they ran into the woods,” he said. Lindamood said the guard was between 70 and 165 feet away at the time and the area was brightly lit. The guard won’t face any disciplinary measures. “In fact, he was commended for the promptness of his report, for the detail contained in his report, and for his diligence in following up until his backup arrived,” Lindamood said. The 13,000-acre Army complex, located a half-hour south of Little Rock, began destroying its chemical weapons stockpile in March to comply with international treaties. This kinda puts this into a new perspective for me.....maybe it really was three humans that got into the place, they somehow escaped and got out and this is just the cover to ease any worry that our precious supply of chemical weapons are "safe".... but if that's the case....then why does the article specifically state: "He reported that he saw three individuals on foot inside the (secure area) and when he approached in his vehicle they ran into the woods..." so it must have been something that resembles a human.....because if it was human, why wouldn't the guard order them to stop whatever it was they were doing and lay down on the ground, hands over their heads, etc etc.? I'm assuming the guy was armed...why didn't he throw some muscle around? he just watched them run off into the woods? why? maybe he didn't have time? maybe the standard procedure in a place like that is "wait for backup no matter what"....dunno....I guess it could go both ways in light of the older article from the 25th. also.... "The 13,000-acre Army complex, located a half-hour south of Little Rock, began destroying its chemical weapons stockpile in March to comply with international treaties." how does one go about safely destroying chemical weapons? because...and this is just my mind racing off here for a second...I'm kind of wondering if destroying something like chemical weapons does to "wherever it is that other dimensional entities come from", what knocking over obscene amounts of rainforest does in terms of releasing previously unknown germs or chemicals or viruses. I'm reminded of that bit about the UFO's showing up around the atomic weapons testing facility in the US and Australia at the same time. I forgot the names/dates so I apologize. But another possible example...back when Jeff first mentioned Kary Mullis....the discussion was regarding his encounter with the raccoon behind his cabin in CA.....I seem to remember someone saying something along the lines of maybe it was the result of some kind of altered chemical he had created during his quest to constantly one-up the government back during his LSD days....as if maybe he had opened some kind of "channel" simply by creating something similar to LSD.....but then when the accounts of his daughter and colleague came up, someone speculated that maybe it was the place, and not the man. but why would THAT man, who discovered this hugely significant thing in the world of science, just happen to purchase a place of significance in the realm of high weirdness? My point is, maybe the initial suggestion, that Mullis had somehow inadvertently opened some kind of gateway by altering chemical compounds and such, is similar to what's going on with the chemical weapons cache....maybe the destruction of chemical weapons could lead to some kind of open door in the realm of high weirdness. again, that's just me speculating wildly...I suppose it's pretty presumptious, considering it may just be a case of sloppy reporting or a run-around by the military to cover-up any potentially embarrassing situations for the Army.

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