'The Number 23'

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'The Number 23'

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue May 02, 2006 10:01 pm

Shameful admission: I was reading <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The National Enquirer</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> today, and read a bit about this production. Carrey, reportedly, has been acting "bizarre" on set. Nothing unusual there, for either Carrey or the Enquirer to make the accusation. However, shooting a scene recently in which Carrey was to depict a nervous breakdown, he is said to have dropped his pants, exposed himself and urinated on the set. The crew taking in that bit of improv was apparently more silent than the press gallery watching Stephen Colbert.<br><br>Maybe Carrey's having his VALIS moment. (And <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://whyimnotanartist.com/23.htm">coincidentally</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, "In each book of Philip K. Dick's 'VALIS' trilogy, VALIS is first mentioned on the 23rd page.")<br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Carrey Counts On Number 23<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=34344">January 26</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Jim Carrey told SCI FI Wire that he's particularly excited about his next film, The Number 23, a mind-bender about a man who becomes obsessed with the number 23. Carrey said that it was likely fate that brought the project to him, since he himself is obsessed with the number 23.<br><br>"I've had this obsession with the number 23 for years," Carrey said in an interview, while promoting his current film, Fun With Dick and Jane. "[The script] was given to me by a friend who had the obsession with it, where he talked about the Earth's axis is on the 23rd degree and 23 chromosomes in the human body from each parent and all that, and he has books written about everything that adds up to 23. As soon as he told me, I started seeing 23 everywhere. And it's shocking how much adds up to 23; it's a primary number, but it's bizarre. But it really works out in a strange way to be very prevalent everywhere."<br><br>Carrey (Bruce Almighty) will share the screen with Virginia Madsen in the film, which Joel Schumacher will direct. Schumacher last directed Carrey in Batman Forever. But, Carrey said, The Number 23 is not a comedy. "No, it's a thriller," he said. "It's about a guy [Carrey] who finds a book that's about a character that is obsessed with the number 23, and the number 23 is haunting him and leads him to do some very bad things. And then finally it starts happening in his life, and he starts to notice parallels between the book and his life, and the character and his life."<br><br>Carrey added: "I don't want to say too much about it, but it's really an interesting movie. I was talking about all this 23 stuff. ... First of all, the number 23 thing for me culminated in ... me talking about it, and at the very same moment, someone handing me a book about the 23rd Psalm, which became like my kind of mantra a little bit. Because it's about living without fear, feeling like you're taken care of, like you're safe. And so I changed the name of my company to JC23 a couple years ago. I started telling somebody about the 23 thing, and 'the valley of the shadow of death' and all those things it means, and they said, 'I just read a script called The Number 23.'"<br><br>Carrey read the script and found it compelling. "It's so interesting, and the way the mathematics are worked out in it, it's like this guy is Rain Man, the guy who wrote it, Fernley Phillips. So I decided to do it, and I gave it to a friend of mine to read. He read it in an hour and a half, [and] when I came back in he was on page 23, circling every 23rd word, to see if there was a puzzle. That's the kind of thing that I want to do to an audience." Production on The Number 23 begins this week, with an eye toward a late 2006 release. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Burroughs

Postby professorpan » Tue May 02, 2006 11:03 pm

William S. Burroughs may have been the original source of the 23 meme, which was later taken up by Robert Anton Wilson, among others. <br><br>Some wild riffing on the number can be found here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://fusionanomaly.net/23.html">fusionanomaly.net/23.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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more on Carrey

Postby jingofever » Wed May 03, 2006 3:48 am

Seeing Jim Carrey brought up on this board reminds me of when he went on Oprah several years ago (I don't know why I was watching) and he shouted a bit about the illuminati. Unfortunately the only reference I can find for this is on Usenet, the Star Wars cantina of the internet:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.illuminati/browse_thread/thread/cdb2bd4c1e7a0648/1cf54ec917d32410?lnk=st&q=jim+carrey+oprah+illuminati&rnum=1&hl=en">groups.google.com/group/a...um=1&hl=en</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Carrey and metaphysics

Postby bkkexile » Wed May 03, 2006 6:17 am

There's a pretty famous story of Carrey writing himself a 'cheque' (in the eighties) for $10 OR 20 million for services rendered and dating it at some time in the 90's. Apparently, he was paid a similar amount at around the same date the cheque was 'dated'. Sorry if that makes no sense, 2 Vb's and 1 tooheys new, essentially I'm trying to convey that Carrey has a fairly strong belief in.............................????? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Carrey and metaphysics

Postby bkkexile » Wed May 03, 2006 6:29 am

..............weird shit? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: more on Carrey

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed May 03, 2006 9:03 am

Thanks:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>During the interview, Jim began chanting / singing<br>"Oh, I'm illuminati! Your illuminati! (Pointing to Oprah),<br>"You're not illuminati." (Pointing to an audience member.) </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Pretty funny bit for people who knew what he was doing. <br><br>There's definitely a lot going on inside that guy. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: more on Carrey

Postby Gouda » Wed May 03, 2006 11:19 am

Earlier today, I read this thread. The next thing I read was this...<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Jet crashes off Russia, 113 killed</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Wednesday, May 3, 2006 Posted: 1213 GMT (2013 HKT)<br><br>MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- An Armenian passenger plane crashed in stormy weather Wednesday off Russia's Black Sea coast, killing all 113 people on board.<br><br>The Airbus A-320, which belonged to the Armenian airline Armavia, disappeared from radar screens about four miles from its destination, the southern Russian city of Sochi, emergency officials said.<br><br>Officials said all 113 people aboard the plane, including six children, were killed.<br><br>Armenian airline officials said they believed the crash was due to the poor weather. Investigators said they did not believe terrorism was a factor.<br><br>The crash happened early Wednesday during a short flight from the Armenian capital of Yerevan to Sochi, a resort city on the Black Sea about 350 miles away.<br><br>The victims' relatives gathered later Wednesday at Yerevan airport for a charter flight to Sochi after the crash. Gurgen Seroboyan, whose 23-year-old fiancee Lucenie Gevorkian was a flight attendant on the plane, wept as he waited.<br><br>"We were planning to get married and then this tragedy happened," he told The Associated Press.<br><br>Samvel Oganesian told AP his 23-year-old son Vram and his friend Hamlet Abgarian had been heading to Sochi for vacation. "Why did he go?" Oganesian asked repeatedly in anguish. <br><br>.....<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>Horrible. And enough 2's and 3's, plus the double "23's" in this article merited a double-take. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: more on Carrey

Postby thoughtographer » Wed May 03, 2006 12:49 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Despite the large number of Hollywood Scientologists, not all celebrities view Scientology favorably. Actors Jim Carrey and Nicholas Cage have 'prank-called' Scientology's Celebrity Center in Los Angeles. Seinfeld, David Letterman, Conan O'Brien, Ellen, Grace Under Fire, and Mystery Science Theatre 3000 have all poked fun at Scientology on television, and Howard Stern makes frequent humorous reference to the cult. The Simpsons and Millennium have devoted entire episodes to stories surrounding ominous Scientology-like cults. Music bands Black-47, Tool, and Faith No More make unfavorable references to Scientology in song lyrics. Tennis player Boris Becker threatened to sue Scientology if his name and photo were not removed from its web pages, and racecar driver Mario Andretti had Dianetics logos removed from his car.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>From: <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://<!--EZCODE">www.factnet.org/Scientology/cultgate.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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Re: more on Carrey

Postby thoughtographer » Wed May 03, 2006 12:53 pm

Sorry, ezboard took a bite out of that post.<br><br>23 Skidoo. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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23 Oh My

Postby Col Quisp » Wed May 03, 2006 1:31 pm

From Wikipedia:<br>Occult significance<br><br> See also: 23 (numerology).<br> <br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_23">wiki</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> * The sacred number (along with 5) of Eris, goddess of discord, according to the Principia Discordia; it is the number of the Illuminati.<br>#<br># Like 13, sometimes considered lucky or otherwise significant (as in the occult writings of Aleister Crowley and William S. Burroughs); see the 23 enigma.<br><br> * 23 Skidoo is a title of a poem in Aliester Crowley's book "The Book of Lies - Falsely so Called"<br><br># Robert Anton Wilson's book, Cosmic Trigger I: Final Secret of the Illuminati, lists 23 as a cosmic number with strong connections to arcane magic and synchronicity. Numerous people have claimed to see 23's everywhere (the 23 curse) prior to enormous success and fruitfulness.<br><br> * In many other of Wilson's works (especially The Illuminatus! Trilogy) 23 is given special importance. Many Discordians use this number for any number of purposes.<br><br># 23rdian is a person who constantly witnesses the number 23 in high concentration.<br><br>In other fields<br><br>Twenty-three is:<br><br> * In early 20th century United States slang, it meant to leave a place. (From the phrase 23 skiddoo ; the origins of the phrase are largely unknown).<br> * Sydney Carton is the 23rd person executed at the end of A Tale of Two Cities, by Charles Dickens.<br> * 23, a German movie about Karl Koch.<br> * A telegraphers' code meaning "line break".<br> * When mathematician John Forbes Nash suffered from schizophrenic delusions, he said that Life Magazine had run a cover story of him disguised as Pope John XXIII as his name was John and his favorite prime number was 23. Nash published a total of 23 scientific articles.<br> * The actor Danny Trejo's name in "Con Air" was Johnny 23.<br> * The number of people (16 females, 7 males) Neo was to select in order to refound Zion in The Matrix Reloaded<br> * A song of the band Jimmy Eat World on their album Futures.<br> * ASCII character number 23 is ETB, end transmission block.<br> * The smallest group of people where there is more than a 50% chance that 2 people will share the same birth day (day and month, not year).<br> * One of the "Lost Numbers" on the television show, Lost, along with 4, 8, 15, 16 and 42. According to producers of the show, 23 is the most important of these six numbers.<br> * Purple 23 is the parking space where Kramer hides his air conditioner in the Seinfeld season 3 episode "The Parking Garage"<br> * Psalm 23 of the Bible is possibly the most quoted and best known psalm.<br> * The standard TCP/IP port number for Telnet connections.<br> * The number of crosses on the hill at the end of the Monty Python film "The Life of Brian" is 23.<br> * Princess Leia is being held in detention block AA-23 in the Star Wars film "A New Hope".<br> * When Zoidberg upsets the shelf containing the various alternative universes in the Futurama episode "The Farnsworth Parabox", the only visible universe number is 23.<br> * In William Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, Caesar was stabbed a total 23 times.<br> * Number 23 is recognized as a number of Freetekno culture - often used on decorations, party names, etc.<br> * In the movie Serendipity during the beginning of the movie, the 23rd floor is the floor both John and Sarah pick before "the devil" separates them.<br> * 2005 December 23 - Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 217 from Baku, Azerbaijan to Aktau, Kazakhstan crashed shortly after takeoff killing 23 people.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 'The Number 23'

Postby PeterofLoneTree » Wed May 03, 2006 2:14 pm

Might be a bit of a stretch, but: 12/21/2012 <p></p><i></i>
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re: 23

Postby chillin » Wed May 03, 2006 3:29 pm

Tomorrow morning at 1:23 am..<br><br>1:23 4/5/2006<br><br>*gets out calculator*<br><br>Hey! 23 again... sweet! <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:37 am

The trailer's been released:

View it here

Never seen Carrey this restrained, but he's even creepier than usual, in a Shingingesque way.
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Dr. Pepper new ad campaign

Postby jingofever » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:48 am

Dr. Pepper is now obsessed with the fact that their pop/soda/coke/other contains 23 "authentic" flavors.

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:10 pm

"What the world calls sanity has led us to the present planetary crises," Simon had said, "and insanity is the only viable alternative." That was a paradox worth some kind of consideration.

"About that 23," Joe said, approaching Simon tentatively after the meeting broke up.

"It's everywhere," was the instant reply. "I just started to scratch the surface. All the great anarchists died on the 23rd day of some month or other—Sacco and Vanzetti on August 23, Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow on May 23, Dutch on October 23—and Vince Coll was 23 years old when he was shot on 23rd Street—and even though John Dillinger died on the 22nd of July, if you look it up, like I did, in Toland's book, The Dillinger Days, you'll find he couldn't get away from the 23 Principle, because 23 other people died that night in Chicago, too, all from heat prostration. 'Nova heat moving in,' dig?

And the world began on October 23, in 4004 B.C., according to Bishop Usher, and the Hungarian Revolution started on October 23, too, and Harpo Marx was born on November 23, and—"

There was more of it, much more, and Joe patiently listened to all of it, determined to continue his experiment in applied schizophrenia at least for this one evening. They retired to a nearby restaurant, the Seminary, on Fullerton Street, and Simon rambled on, over beers, proceeding to the mystic significance of the letter W—23rd in the alphabet— and its presence in the words "woman" and "womb" as well as in the shape of the feminine breasts and spread-eagle legs of the copulating female. He even found some mystic meaning in the W in Washington, but was strangely evasive about explicating this.

"So, you see," Simon was explaining when the restaurant was starting to close, "the whole key to liberation is magic. Anarchism remains tied to politics, and remains a form of death like all other politics, until it breaks free from the defined 'reality' of capitalist society and creates its own reality. A pig for President. Acid in the water supply. Fucking in the streets. Making the totally impossible become the eternally possible. Reality is thermoplastic, not thermosetting, you know: I mean you can reprogram it much more than people realize. The hex hoax— original sin, logical positivism, those restriction and constriction myths— all that's based on a thermosetting reality. Christ, man, there are limits, of course— nobody is nutty enough to deny that—but the limits are nowhere near as rigid as we've been taught to believe. It's much closer to the truth to say there are no practical limits at all and reality is whatever people decide to make it. But we've been on one restriction kick after another for a couple thousand years now, the world's longest head-trip, and it takes real negative entropy to shake up the founda tions. This isn't shit; I've got a degree in mathematics, man."

"I studied engineering myself, a long time ago." Joe said. "I realize that part of what you say is true. .
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"It's all true. The land belongs to the landlords, right now, because of magic. People worship the deeds in the government offices, and they won't dare move onto a square of ground if one of the deeds says somebody else owns it. It's a head-trip, a kind of magic, and you need the opposite magic to lift the curse. You need shock elements to break up and disorganize the chains of command in the brain, the 'mind-forg'd manacles' that Blake wrote about. That's the unpredictable elements, dads: the erratic, the erotic, the Eristic. Tim Leary said it: 'People have to go out of their minds before they can come to their senses.' They can't feel and touch and smell the real earth, man, as long as the manacles in the cortex tell them it belongs to somebody else.


If you don't want to call it magic, call it counterconditioning, but the principle is the same. Breaking up the trip society laid on us and starting our own trip. Bringing back old realities that are supposed to be dead. Creating new realities. Astrology, demons, lifting poetry off of the written page into the acts of your daily life. Surrealism, dig? Antonin Artaud and Andre Breton put it in a nutshell in the First Surrealist Manifesto: 'total transformation of mind, and all that resembles it.' They knew all about the Illuminated Lodge, founded in Munich in 1923, and that it controlled Wall Street and Hitler and Stalin, through witchcraft. We gotta get into witchcraft ourselves to undo the hex they've cast on everybody's mind. All hail Discordia! Do you read me?"


When they finally parted, and Joe headed back for his hotel, the spell ended. I've been listening to a spaced-out acid-head all night, Joe thought in his cab headed south toward the Loop, and almost managing to believe him. If I keep on with this little experiment, I will believe him. And that's how insanity always begins: you find reality unbearable and start manufacturing a fantasy alternative.

With an effort of will, he forced himself back into his usual framework; no matter how cruel reality was, Joe Malik would face it and would not follow the Yippies and Crazies in the joy ride to Cloud Cuckoo Land.

--from The Illuminatus Trilolgy, we got it in pdf if anyone wants/needs it:

http://brainsturbator.com/pdf/Robert%20 ... rilogy.pdf
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