UFO in China - video is excellent

[yesferatu]

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2458967493428649738&q=ufo+china">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>It emits an energy pulse of some kind around points on its outer circumference just befrore vanishing.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I wonder about the lay of the land in China....that is, do people have the same motivations to fake UFO vids...because either this is fake or it is really unexplainable in conventional terms. Thanks for the video. <p></p><i></i>

[yesferatu]

Here is a still of the craft just prior to the disappearance<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l56/jjgarza70/ufo.jpg">here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

[KeenInsight]

Interesting, could be a fake or might not be, who knows. I know that Chinese are very interesting in the UFO phenomenon. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

OMG, you can't possibly think that's possibly real. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Forget that one, the one in the sidebar was much more interesting:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-571327833446046536&q=ufo+china">video.google.com/videopla...=ufo+china</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Even more interesting is the uploader's comments:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> "Footage of a ufo doing a right angled turn in Australia. I have witnessed 3 ufo's since 1998 and none of them had signs of fire or rockets ... all » this one does so could well be a fake Australian video! Real ufo's are silent and use Electromagnetic power they sound much like a large transformer!"<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That's fascinating. The author's seen 3 UFO's himself, so this one CAN'T be real. It's like showing you the real deal and saying it's a fake cause it's not piloted by little green men in a glass encapsule.<br><br>That kind of thing always strikes me as professional disinfo/debunking. The easiest way to prove something isn't real is to show them exatcly that, then say it's too mundane to be an ET, assuming we want to recognize these crafts as extraterrestrials to begin with. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 9/4/06 12:52 pm<br></i>

[KeenInsight]

Hey nice find there et. I haven't seen that before. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

Pretty sure the Australian one was debunked. The video marks weren't consistent with what is expected in aircraft footage. <br><br>Is the China one real? Well, I wish I spoke Chinese...<br><br>It could be fake...it reminds me a bit of the very famous Mexican footage. In that case a saucer craft flies behind a building...a difficult effect for an amateur to pull off (maybe not so difficult these days.)<br><br>Somebody not only debunked it...they found the movie that the ufo images were jacked from.<br><br>However, I keep an open mind on the Chinese footage. <p></p><i></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Keen Insight, if you think that one's freaky, let me introduce you to the one that grabs my attention the most out of every UFO video I've ever seen:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4987931999759537743&q=ufo+crash">UFO Crash</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>I don't even need to direct your attention to the explicitly viewable downward propulsion evident underneath the vehicle, cause you'll immediately notice it for yourself.<br><br>I'd really like this one debunked, but I can't do it myself and I've struggled with it for about 7 years now..You can fin this video on peer to peer networks and if you have a good video player, try inversing the color and mess with contrast, etc. <br><br>You'll see it even better afterwards. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>

[orz]

If by "excellent" you mean "mediocre" <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Seriously, google video stretched to fit window MPEG is not really good enough quality to determine much of anything. Not that this even looks particularly convincing. I suspect that the original footage would look less so without the compression blurring everything...<br><br>In this day and age, it's no problem if you have broadband to upload movies at extremely high quality for free... even at HD quality! <br><br>It's no replacement for seeing the original camera tape (nonexistant of course in many/most cases) but they could upload full resolution clips at highest quality compression settings (or even lossless or uncompressed for short clips) so people can get a better look. Put them or bittorrent... or sites like ourmedia.com and archive.org allow unlimited hosting of video with no limit on file size, so there's no excuse as long as the UFOtographer and the interested people like ourselves have decent fast internet and/or a little patience.<br><br>Of course that doesn't happen. Most of the time there's no indication of who's even supposed to have shot the footage, where it came from, who put it online etc etc... so long as it's footage of a UFO = instant credibility for some people. No need for proof, research, thinking, or even properly LOOKING at the video it seems! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Hey, the camera's shaking, NO WAY that could be faked man!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START 0] --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

orz, I hope you're not directing those comments at me..<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/images/smiles/doh.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Btw, all I know about that video is it came from Mexico and the date I believe was 1987. I only know this because that info was in the file's title.<br><br>If someone tells me that it's footage from a cheapO movie, I'll gladly laugh it off, but every time I've seen at it I've been amazed by it. I deliberately forget about it as a result of not being able to reconcile with it and ignore it's existance until it forces itself back up every couple years through conversations like these. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>

[KeenInsight]

I've seen the crash one. It's pretty common in most UFO docs as they usually show it, but no one comments about it. <p></p><i></i>

[bvonahsen]

I think that is the best example of the UFO crash film that I've seen. Surely there is info about who took it, when and where? The fact that most examples come to us without a history is a major reason not to believe them. And yeah, there is no excuse not to upload the full resolution photo or video any more. If nothing else you can go to the public library and upload from there. Most have fast connections.<br><br>About the china UFO, I think that I can see some video noise around the UFO but I can't tell. The biggest hurdle hoaxers face is matching the grain of live footage with generated footage. It isn't easy and is why simple hoaxes like double exposures or lamp shades on fishing lines work so well.<br><br>That said, people want to believe and the SciFi channels' world trade center hoax still fools most casual viewers. <p></p><i></i>

[yesferatu]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> OMG, you can't possibly think that's possibly real. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>OMFG, you can't possibly think the only explanation without weighing all alternative theories....is video tampering. <br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Surely there is info about who took it, when and where? The fact that most examples come to us without a history is a major reason not to believe them. And yeah, there is no excuse not to upload the full resolution photo or video any more. If nothing else you can go to the public library and upload from there. Most have fast connections.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I came across that video on the old Hotline network as far back as 1998. Back then, there were no file hosting services and peer to peer/server-client networks were the easiest way to distribute files online. Consider also everyone's instinctive concern about the Internet that persists even today in regards to revealing one's identity and you start to understand why these films have little details and proliferate in the underweb rather than the normal one.<br><br>Even today, the best place to find these videos remains the opaque and faceless peer to peer networks where people are numbers and nobody <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>EVER</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> talks to one another.<br><br>A natural consequence of this that I've experienced myself is the neccessity of translating a file into a format that can be read on my own machine. Image conversion is a brutal process that degrades the file through every step of it's passage through the web, and that includes any data that may have been attatched originally. For instance, PC's don't read a Macintosh file's data fork, so a place where Mac users commonly embedded critical information is automatically lost <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>just by saving the file on a pc</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. In regards to this UFO crash video, someone may have placed extensive info in a resource fork that was lost in file transfer and the person may be justifiably terrified to speak of it online. Even at places like youtube and imageshack you're not really anonymous; if the server host asks your name it can be extracted one way or the other.<br><br>I've seen better renders of this UFO crash myself, and may even still have a copy of it on an old disk, I'll need to check, but can't make any guarantees. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>