Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

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Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

Postby Col Quisp » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:45 pm

The thread, started at the end of Feb, is now over 41 pages and has LOTS of good info -- I believe this guy is someone "in the know" -- not a hoaxer. Here's the first entry:<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=214021&mpage=1&showdate=3/14/06">godlikeproductions.com/bb...te=3/14/06</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>-----Original Message-----<br>"Confidential and encrypted"<br>From: Michael Chertoff<br>Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 1:00 AM<br>To: XXXXX XXXXX <EMA Asst. Director><br>Subject: DHS Update<br><br>We remind you to continue your program of public education and inform persons on how to be self supportive up to 10 days with no assistance. Avian flu continues to spread westward and in places not expected. Human to human mutation is only 2 steps away according to the CDC as of Friday 2-17-06.<br><br>NOAA forecasters along with several universities continue with their on going research into the South Pole investigations and weather extremes. Dr Gray and TPC are forecasting a more intense and more active hurricane season than we just experienced last year. University of Colorado models suggest possible double from 2005. Navy engineers with the NOGAPS model are looking ahead into what could be the most devastating tornado season in years. Plans should be in place now for shelters and activation of NRP on a local level. All counties should have a designated ICM for such an event already in place. If not, do it now.<br><br>Command structures should be in place now for the anticipation of civil hardships and possible outbreaks during events of stress to the community. Local agencies should be prepared to enact measures to obtain authorization of essential business and direct such business to a plan of distribution.<br><br>Local emergency agencies must be instructed and trained that all communication, decisions, and pending actions are directed thru the county EMA director and assistant. Every county must have a trained public information officer on site and ready for PSA's and prepared statements. Directors and assistants must ensure that their EOC's are secure, and self sustaining for 30 days. This includes, security, food, water, fuel for generators, sleeping quarters and communications backup.<br><br>Further instructions will follow this week and Code 121 is a yellow as of Monday this date. All EMA directors and assistants are required to be on reachable communications at all times until further notice. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:50 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>with the NOGAPS model are looking ahead into what could be the most devastating tornado season in years.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>It is estimated that there were a hundred tornados in Illinois, Missouri, and Kansas on Sunday.<br><br>Wow, one of the posters said a friend told him this, back in February:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>k he called me back and I asked him about the south pole stuff. He told me that alot of scientist and climatologists down there. I asked him about incoming and he laughed and said they are not tracking asteroids, meteors or anything. He did say isnt it odd though that meteor is in meteorology? I found that strange he said that.<br><br>He said that the climate is dictated from the south pole. The Antartica ice sheild is so big for a reason and its melting. He said while all the news talks about Greenland and the north pole caps the real problem is the south pole. He said they are saving their drilling equipment because ice is melting so fast they are not having to use some of it. Said they are learning things in the ice and analyzing it faster because the ice is breaking away and they dont have to drill.<br><br>He said because of the tilt of the earth as the ice melts it distributes in the oceans. He said that is a natural thing and glaciers melt all the time however.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The "wobble" of the earth is what evenly distributes this pure water throughout the earths oceans. Like putting koolaid and water together and swirl it around to mix it up.<br><br>The earthquake in Sumatra changed the "wobble" and the water is being distributed more into the Pacific Ocean than Atlantic. He said that is why the Atlantic is warming so fast because the cooler water from the glaciers is not cooling it off like normal. Thus, is the reason the Pacific is lower in tropical storms versus the Atlantic now.<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> He said that is why we are in a La Nina instead of the forecasted El Nino. He said the weather in Europe is a direct result. The warmer Atlantic is causing "Bermuda" high pressure systems that are stronger and further north than normal and that is forcing colder air from the north pole into the Europe/Asia area.<br><br>Said he had to go and would call me later.Take it for what its worth just relaying info.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 3/14/06 11:14 am<br></i>
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Arctic Ice

Postby heyjt » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:06 pm

From today's "Independent" (UK):<br><br>Climate change 'irreversible' as Arctic sea ice fails to re-form <br>By Steve Connor, Science Editor <br>Published: 14 March 2006 <br>Sea ice in the Arctic has failed to re-form for the second consecutive winter, raising fears that global warming may have tipped the polar regions in to irreversible climate change far sooner than predicted. <br><br>Satellite measurements of the area of the Arctic covered by sea ice show that for every month this winter, the ice failed to return even to its long-term average rate of decline. It is the second consecutive winter that the sea ice has not managed to re-form enough to compensate for the unprecedented melting seen during the past few summers.<br><br>Scientists are now convinced that Arctic sea ice is showing signs of both a winter and a summer decline that could indicate a major acceleration in its long-term rate of disappearance. The greatest fear is that an environmental "positive feedback" has kicked in, where global warming melts ice which in itself causes the seas to warm still further as more sunlight is absorbed by a dark ocean rather than being reflected by white ice.<br><br>Mark Serreze, a sea ice specialist at the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, said: "In September 2005, the Arctic sea ice cover was at its lowest extent since satellite monitoring began in 1979, and probably the lowest in the past 100 years. While we can't be certain, it looks like 2006 will be more of the same," Dr Serreze said.<br><br>"Unless conditions turn colder, we may be headed for another year of big sea ice losses, rivalling or perhaps even exceeding what we saw in September 2005. We are of course monitoring the situation closely ... Coupled with recent findings from Nasa that the Greenland ice sheet may be near a tipping point, it's pretty clear that the Arctic is starting to respond to global warming," he added.<br><br>Although sea levels are not affected by melting sea ice - which floats on the ocean - the Arctic ice cover is thought to be a key moderator of the northern hemisphere's climate. It helps to stabilise the massive land glaciers and ice sheets of Greenland which have the capacity to raise sea levels dramatically.<br><br>Dr Serreze said that some parts of the northern hemisphere experienced very low temperatures this winter, but the Arctic was much warmer than normal. "Even in January, when there were actually record low temperatures in Alaska and parts of Russia, it was still very warm over the Arctic Ocean," he said.<br><br>"The sea ice cover waxes and wanes with the seasons. It partly melts in spring and summer, then grows back in autumn and winter. It has not recovered well this past winter - ice extent for every month since September 2005 has been far below average. And it's been so warm in the Arctic that the ice that has grown this winter is probably rather thin," he explained.<br><br>Professor Peter Wadhams, of Cambridge University, who was the first Briton to monitor Arctic sea ice from nuclear submarines, said: "One of the big changes this winter is that a large area of the Barents Sea has remained ice-free for the first time. This is part of Europe's 'back yard'. Climate models did predict a retreat of sea ice in the Barents Sea but not for a few decades yet, so it is a sign that the changes that were predicted are indeed happening, but much faster than predicted." <br><br>Sea ice in the Arctic has failed to re-form for the second consecutive winter, raising fears that global warming may have tipped the polar regions in to irreversible climate change far sooner than predicted. <br><br>Satellite measurements of the area of the Arctic covered by sea ice show that for every month this winter, the ice failed to return even to its long-term average rate of decline. It is the second consecutive winter that the sea ice has not managed to re-form enough to compensate for the unprecedented melting seen during the past few summers.<br><br>Scientists are now convinced that Arctic sea ice is showing signs of both a winter and a summer decline that could indicate a major acceleration in its long-term rate of disappearance. The greatest fear is that an environmental "positive feedback" has kicked in, where global warming melts ice which in itself causes the seas to warm still further as more sunlight is absorbed by a dark ocean rather than being reflected by white ice.<br><br>Mark Serreze, a sea ice specialist at the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, said: "In September 2005, the Arctic sea ice cover was at its lowest extent since satellite monitoring began in 1979, and probably the lowest in the past 100 years. While we can't be certain, it looks like 2006 will be more of the same," Dr Serreze said.<br><br>"Unless conditions turn colder, we may be headed for another year of big sea ice losses, rivalling or perhaps even exceeding what we saw in September 2005. We are of course monitoring the situation closely ... Coupled with recent findings from Nasa that the Greenland ice sheet may be near a tipping point, it's pretty clear that the Arctic is starting to respond to global warming," he added.<br>Although sea levels are not affected by melting sea ice - which floats on the ocean - the Arctic ice cover is thought to be a key moderator of the northern hemisphere's climate. It helps to stabilise the massive land glaciers and ice sheets of Greenland which have the capacity to raise sea levels dramatically.<br><br>Dr Serreze said that some parts of the northern hemisphere experienced very low temperatures this winter, but the Arctic was much warmer than normal. "Even in January, when there were actually record low temperatures in Alaska and parts of Russia, it was still very warm over the Arctic Ocean," he said.<br><br>"The sea ice cover waxes and wanes with the seasons. It partly melts in spring and summer, then grows back in autumn and winter. It has not recovered well this past winter - ice extent for every month since September 2005 has been far below average. And it's been so warm in the Arctic that the ice that has grown this winter is probably rather thin," he explained.<br><br>Professor Peter Wadhams, of Cambridge University, who was the first Briton to monitor Arctic sea ice from nuclear submarines, said: "One of the big changes this winter is that a large area of the Barents Sea has remained ice-free for the first time. This is part of Europe's 'back yard'. Climate models did predict a retreat of sea ice in the Barents Sea but not for a few decades yet, so it is a sign that the changes that were predicted are indeed happening, but much faster than predicted." <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

Postby gotnoscript » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:51 pm

Chiggerbit, this is utter nonsense. I work in the climate field and climatologists are continually studying Antarctica. The "wobble" would have very little impact on the distribution of water mass in the ocean. Fresh water floats on top of the ocean so it would be more influenced by wind stress. Freshwater on the surface of the ocean prevents the ocean from releasing it's heat to the atmosphere, that's how it would prevent the ocean from cooling, however it would slow down the current, such as the gulf stream in the NH, which brings warm water northward. Without North Atlantic Deep Water production the "conveyer belt" would come to a grinding halt.<br> The "wobble" would play no role in where the runoff would go. La Nina and el Nino are driven by surface winds.<br> The above Independent article is much more lucid.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re: Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

Postby Qutb » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:57 pm

GLP... say no more. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re: Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

Postby chiggerbit » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:01 pm

Could that earthquake have been powerful enough to have mixed up the layers of fresh water over ocean water, unifying the temps, at least in that part of the world? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re: Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:11 pm

When the hoax/satire 'Dolphins Fleeing North' story came here I searched to see where else it was.<br><br>Few search results and I guessed it was a new creation.<br><br>Besides a couple of personal blogs the only other website with a discussion board carrying 'Dolphins' was GLP.<br><br>So perhaps it is an insert point for distributing environmental confusion.<br><br>Seems the personnel here at RI are on average too informed to be a good insert point for disinfo but <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>an excellent beta testing ground</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> for trial balloons and experiments.<br><br>*POP* <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re: Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

Postby Col Quisp » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:17 pm

I guess it's just another hoax. I went back and re-read some of the original poster's posts and compared his writing style with the alleged emails "sent" to him, and found similar grammatical errors. Sorry guys, for posting that link here. I was reeled in. When will I learn not to go there! <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Re: Must Read GLP thread:"Email sent to me"

Postby Anders » Tue Mar 14, 2006 5:25 pm

I was reeled in. When will I learn not to go there!<br><br>LOL, join the club. GLP is a spook outfit now IMO, and I have been there off and on since day one with Elaine and Kenton. There have been a fair few very informative climate change and such threads over the years.<br><br>There have also been some genuine spooks posting there - take your pick from German Guy, Safe & Sound, and several others. I'm not saying all were genuine, but some were IMO.<br><br>And I had a long-running Tony Bliar paedophile/masonic cover up thread going for over a year - monitored by all the spook agencies all over the world, and with several 'in the know' folks posting accurate snippets. It was that thread that got GLP shut down for a week, and when it re-emerged it had been sold to a spyware outfit - divide and rule, all archives erased completely. The same has happened to other high hit forums, sold to these parasites that break up all the researchers and destroy dangerous threads and archives.<br><br>The thing is, this email thread it may well be a hoax, but OTOH very often useful information can be thrown up on a thread like that. Information is not the problem - it's sifting the good from the bad! <p>Anders<br>www.dancingonthebrink.com</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anders@rigorousintuition>Anders</A> at: 3/14/06 2:27 pm<br></i>
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