Web site exposes Air Force One defenses -- Anyone got it?

by **EyesNarrowlyOpen** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:42 pm

Just curious since more than half of the people's money from the federal budget that congress spends goes to defense and military, homeland defense, etc. All of which is being spent in the name of fighting a few hundred (maybe a few thousand) "terrorists" who hate us for our freedoms... Why can they spend this huge sum, over $40 million PER TERRORIST (assuming 10,000 evil-dooerz) and NOT do a simple thing like keep a simple secret SECRET? It'd be interesting to see if the AF1 defenses are as shallow as the "terrorism reponse plans" for a possible terrorist attack on New Orlean's levees and floodwalls (considering a couple simple truck bombs parked in the very places where the floodwalls failed would have produced the very same results). Time and time again it seems like if you were able to grab the "big book" on defending x, y or z targets, you'd open the book only to find all 1000 pages are blank. Maybe the "anti-missile" defenses are actually a special "prayer chamber"?? Maybe the "escape pod" is really a segway with an attached parachute?? Perhaps the protection against electromagnetic pulse attack is in fact a judicial layer of Reynolds wrap?? Could the onboard "nuclear command center" actually be a special bar/poker room?? If anyone has this webpage/document, I'd really appreciate having a chance to see what all the big deal is. Here's the story: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Web site exposes Air Force One defenses - Paul J. Caffera Saturday, April 8, 2006 Whenever the president travels, security is a prime consideration. Motorcade routes are kept secret, and premature release of information about a presidential trip aboard one of the twin Air Force One planes can result in the Secret Service canceling a visit. Thus, the Air Force reacted with alarm last week after The Chronicle told the Secret Service that a government document containing specific information about the anti-missile defenses on Air Force One and detailed interior maps of the two planes -- including the location of Secret Service agents within the planes -- was posted on the Web site of an Air Force base. The document also shows the location where a terrorist armed with a high-caliber sniper rifle could detonate the tanks that supply oxygen to Air Force One's medical facility. As of Friday, the document was still posted online. The Secret Service refused to comment on the document's release. "It is not a good thing" for that information to be in the public domain, said Lt. Col Bruce Alexander, director of public affairs for the Air Mobility Command's 89th Airlift Wing, Andrews Air Force Base, which operates the presidential air transport fleet. "We are concerned with how it got there and how we can get it out. This affects operational security." Information about Air Force One's anti-missile systems is considered particularly sensitive. "Having information about a target's countermeasures does two things," said Daniel Goure of the Lexington Institute. "It gives you an opportunity to choose a different weapon and to choose a different attack style ... perhaps choosing to launch a salvo attack, or choose a missile that uses an active beam." "It is tough enough for the Secret Service to do its job without this," said Leon Panetta, former chief of staff to President Bill Clinton, who now runs a public policy study center at California State University at Monterey Bay. "If I were still chief of staff, I would order the damned site (to) pull it down." Page A - 4 URL: <a href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/04/08/MNGESI5U6C1.DTL">sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...I5U6C1.DTL</a>

by **EyesNarrowlyOpen** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 2:05 pm

Bueller?

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:55 pm

This appears to me to be an agent provocateur web posting on Air Force One as part of the Pentagon's campaign to portray the internet as dangerous to national security. What better way to do that than appear to endanger the man pretending to be our elected leader? I doubt the floor plans are real but the angst generated is. "See? Information is dangerous. Let us filter the web of eeeevil." Similarly, I noticed a book in Borders called something like 'How Things Work' with detailed graphics on how a city's power, water, and other crucial infrastructure works and where it is. I thought "this seems designed to either cause trouble by exposing soft targets or, more likely, cause concerns about terrorism itself in MY Anytown, USA." So I think that is what this story is, anti-internet/pro-police state agit prop.

by **EyesNarrowlyOpen** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:46 pm

I agree that this may be a completely bs planted story. However, you'd think that if it were real there would be SOMEONE who got a copy of it... RigInt's folks seem to have the right connections to the right people to actually find a copy of this page, but it seems I may have been mistaken. Or else this truly is propaganda. Hey Riginters! Please ask around your nooks and crannies on the net to see if anyone has any real evidence of this! Pleaase! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)">

by **plsmith** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:44 pm

Air Force One data removed from Web Site revealed details of security measures on president's jets Paul J. Caffera, Special to The Chronicle Tuesday, April 11, 2006 Air Force and Pentagon officials scrambled Monday to remove highly sensitive security details about the two Air Force One jetliners after The Chronicle reported that the information had been posted on a public Web site. The security information -- contained in a "technical order" -- is used by rescue crews in the event of an emergency aboard various Air Force planes. But this order included details about Air Force One's anti-missile systems, the location of Secret Service personnel within the aircraft and information on other vulnerabilities that terrorists or a hostile military force could exploit to try to damage or destroy Air Force One, the president's air carrier. "We are dealing with literally hundreds of thousands of Web pages, and Web pages are reviewed on a regular basis, but every once in a while something falls through the cracks," Air Force spokeswoman Lt. Col. Catherine Reardon told The Chronicle. "We can't even justify how (the technical order) got out there. It should have been password-protected. We regret it happened. We removed it, and we will look more closely in the future." The technical order first came to light Saturday when The Chronicle revealed its existence -- but not any of its sensitive details. The Chronicle purposely withheld publishing the Web site and certain information about anti-missile capabilities from the order that could have compromised security of the two Air Force One jetliners. The Chronicle also took extensive steps to alert the government to the order's availability on the Internet. Immediately after discovering the document, The Chronicle notified military and federal authorities about its existence. Nonetheless, a week after they were initially notified, neither the Secret Service nor Air Force officials at Andrews Air Force Base, the home of Air Force One, had caused the document to be removed. Before publishing Saturday's story, The Chronicle again contacted Andrews Air Force Base and provided officials with the Web address for the document. The Chronicle also offered to provide the address to the White House. White House press spokeswoman Jeanne Mamo, when notified on Friday, said she was satisfied that Andrews officials had already been told by The Chronicle of the site's existence. The technical order remained on the Web until Monday afternoon. "The order came down this afternoon to remove this particular technical order from the public Web site," said John Birdsong, chief of media relations at Warner Robins Air Logistics Center, the air base in Georgia that had originally posted the order on its publicly accessible Web site According to Birdsong, the directive to remove the document came from a number of officials, including Dan McGarvey, the chief of information security for the Air Force at the Pentagon. Saturday's article "got the attention of the highest level in this building," a Pentagon official told The Chronicle on the condition that the person not be named. The article also got the attention of the White House press corps. At a daily briefing on Monday, Scott McClellan, President Bush's spokesman, was asked about The Chronicle article and if the administration was aware that potentially compromising information was available on the Internet. "I'm not going to talk about security measures," McClellan said. Reardon blamed the failure to act sooner on a general failure to appreciate the significance of the information. Officials at Andrews Air Force Base and the White House Military Office "missed the bigger picture (and) failed to raise the document to a higher level," she said. "They saw that the document was not classified and thought they could not do anything about it." Remarkably, the Pentagon official who requested anonymity said the reason for the document's existence in the public domain in the first place was thrift. Putting the order on the Internet, "was viewed (by someone) as a cost-effective method of making the information available," the official noted, "but it compromised information not only about Air Force One. ... It had information about our entire fleet." Jean Schaefer, deputy chief of public affairs for the secretary of the Air Force, said the services need to be more mindful of their own rules. "We have very clear policies of what should be on the Web," she said. "We need to emphasize the policy to the field. "It appears that this document shouldn't have been on the Web, and we have pulled the document in question," said Schaefer. "Our policy is clear in that documents that could make our operations vulnerable or threaten the safety of our people should not be available on the Web." The revelation of the anti-missile defenses on Air Force One, and other high-value aircraft, comes just weeks after the Pentagon notified Congress that obtaining funding for the installation of missile countermeasures on aircraft used by the secretary of state and other top officials was a high priority. <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/04/11/MNGK3I7A641.DTL&hw=Air+Force+One&sn=001&sc=1000">www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ar...01&sc=1000</a>

by **nomo** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:05 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>...details about Air Force One's anti-missile systems, the location of Secret Service personnel within the aircraft and information on other vulnerabilities that terrorists or a hostile military force could exploit to try to damage or destroy Air Force One...<hr></blockquote> Maybe they published it, and kept it up for so long, to show Bush they're still in charge and he better not do anything stupid? From Tarpley's "Synthetic Terrror", page 274: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>“AIR FORCE ONE IS NEXT” Once in the airplane, Bush was in continuous contact with Cheney and others. Around this time, officials feared that as many as 11 airliners had been hijacked. (CBS, September 11, 2001) Some reports place Bush out of the loop because of communication difficulty, but out of the loop was his father’s line from Iran- Contra. Shortly after takeoff, Cheney apparently informed Bush of “a credible threat” to Air Force One. (AP, September 13, 2001) US Representative Adam Putnam said he “had barely settled into his seat on Air Force One ... when he got the news that terrorists apparently had set their sights on the plane.” (Orlando Sentinel, September 14, 2001) The Secret Service had received an anonymous message saying: “Air Force One is next.” The caller spoke in the code words relating to Air Force One procedures. Colonel Mark Tillman, who was piloting Air Force One, was informed of the threat, and an armed guard was stationed at his cockpit door. The Associated Press reported that the threat came “within the same hour” as the Pentagon crash –before 10:00 AM, and approximately when the plane took off. (AP, September 13, 2001) The threat contained in this message, “Air Force One is next,” would appear to have been distinct from the earlier warning that came upon leaving Booker School, but this cannot be established with total certainty. Bush wanted to go to Washington, but he was overruled by the White House palace guard. Card told Bush, “We’ve got to let the dust settle before we go back.” (St. Petersburg Times, September 8, 2002) The plane apparently stayed over Sarasota until it was decided where Bush should go. Accounts conflict, but through about 10:35 AM (Washington Post, January 27, 2002), Air Force One “appeared to be going nowhere. The journalists on board – all of whom were barred from communicating with their offices – sensed that the plane was flying in big, slow circles.” (London Daily Telegraph, December 16, 2001) What was being discussed on the secure phone during this time? Was Cheney communicating the demands of the coup faction to Bush? Was Cheney reporting these demands, or was he joining in urging Bush to accept them? At various points in the narrative, Cheney appears to be acting not just as relayer of information, but as a spokesman for the secret government network which was in action on 9/11. It is thus Cheney, far more than Bush, who must be considered a prime suspect in any serious investigation of 9/11. “ANGEL IS NEXT”  According to Bob Woodward’s canonical mainstream account: “At about 10:30 AM Cheney reached Bush again on Air Force One, which was still on its way toward Washington. The White House had received a threat saying, ‘Angel is next.’ Since Angel was the codeword for Air Force One, it could mean that terrorists had inside information.” Allegedly because of this report, Cheney argued that Bush should not return to Washington. “There’s still a threat,” said Cheney. (Woodward 18 ) Within minutes, the plane changed course and flew to Louisiana instead. (Washington Post, January 27, 2002) Was this now a third threat, after the post-Booker threat and the “Air Force One is next” threat? Did the terrorist controllers now add the code word “Angel” to further document their insider status, and their possible access to nuclear codes? Or are we dealing with two versions of the same threat? We will return to “Angel is next.” This represents the single most important clue as to the sponsorship of 9/11, since it was at this point that the sponsors showed their hand. They were not located in a cave in Afghanistan, but were rather a network located high within the US government and military. It was a moment of capital importance, the thread which, if properly pulled, will unravel the entire fabric of 9/11 deceit. Around 10:55 AM, there was yet another threat to Air Force One. The pilot, Colonel Mark Tillman, said he was warned that a suspect airliner was approaching from dead ahead. “Coming out of Sarasota there was one call that said there was an airliner off our nose that they did not have contact with,” Tillman related. Tillman took evasive action, pulling his plane even higher above normal traffic. (CBS, September 11, 2002) Reporters on board noticed the increased elevation. (Dallas Morning News, August 28, 2002; Salon, September 12, 2001) It has not been possible to establish exactly what the basis of this threat report was. Was the rogue network blackmailing Bush? Was this suspect airliner a military aircraft using participation in Vigilant Guardian/Vigilant Warrior as a cover story for assisting the plot?<hr></blockquote> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=nomo@rigorousintuition>nomo</A> at: 4/12/06 3:06 pm

by **hmm** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:06 pm

details and links here.. <a href="http://cryptome.org/af1-rescue.htm">cryptome.org/af1-rescue.htm</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>10 April 2006. A writes: The information in this document is not very interesting or unique. The location of the oxygen bottles is the same as any Boeing 747. There are differing numbers of oxygen bottles on any Boeing aircraft. There are just extras in this picture. This is more likely due to the interior configuration more than any special needs. In a normal commercial 747 the medical oxygen is spread throughout the cabin behind seats and bulkheads. The information about the HF antennas would also be applicable to any commercial airplane parked at the gate of any airport. <hr></blockquote>

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:21 pm

Ah, timing. Of course. Besides the obligatory portrayal of the internet as 'too dangerous' to allow citizens to use, this story is most likely timed to mirror the recent revelation that it was Bush his own ugly self who leaked national security info. So generating some sympathy for the internet-threatened Beloved Leader within the ever-dwindling base to counter his revealed crimes is the prime mission of this story.

by **EyesNarrowlyOpen** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:33 pm

THANKS!! I knew "Riginters" would come through! Upon review, yes it is all crap. It is nice to see what $65 THOUSAND BUCKS PER HOUR gets you in a plane though... Nothing like one upper-middle-class ANNUAL INCOME EVERY HOUR this sucker flies huh?? One nice quote I found in researching: "Bush's hurricane related travel has cost taxpayers somewhere in the range of $2 million or more -- just for the air travel!" Thanks! Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=eyesnarrowlyopen>EyesNarrowlyOpen</A> at: 4/13/06 8:33 pm

Web site exposes Air Force One defenses -- Anyone got it?

Web site exposes Air Force One defenses -- Anyone got it?

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Re: Made the front page of The Chronicle yesterday

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Re:cryptome.org has it,says its nothing special..

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