Mike Ruppert bails....A Permanent Goodbye to the US'

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Re: Ruppert fleeing the Coup.

Postby BannedfromDU » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:43 am

realp-<br>I'm actually a reader of Ruppert as well. I was disappointed when he proclaimed selfishly, 9/11 truth is over...and when the NORAD tapes and Kean/Hamilton came out, that he didn't sieze the moment. Now I know why, he was 'planning his escape'. In any event, he has done much good in the past in my opionion. However, he seems a man who lost hope here.<br><br>On a semi-related note, and regarding software, are you familiar with PTEC?<br>You really should listen to this I think-<br><br>Ground Zero 911: Blueprint For Terror, Part Two<br>with<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong> 911 whistleblower, Indira Singh</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. Indira Singh worked on Wall Street from 1975 until June 28, 2002, when she was summarily terminated due to <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>her investigation into the computer software company Ptech</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. In Part One, she described her work as an emergency medical technician at ground zero, and began to describe her professional work for JPMorgan Chase and her first client meeting with software engineer, Ptech. Originally broadcast on July 20, 2005.<br><br>Listen Now..<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gunsandbutter.net/archives.php?si=110">www.gunsandbutter.net/arc...php?si=110</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>===========<br><br> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Indira Singh<br>P-Tech - Saudi cover-up</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>by Daniel Hopsicker<br>February 5 2004-- Venice, Florida.<br>Last week, when the National 9/11 Commission held hearings on The Aviation Security System and the 9/11 Attack, government and aviation officials described a system unprepared for the events that unfolded on September 11. None of them, however, mentioned security breaches involving  “Saudi terrorists in the basement of the FAA.”  <br><br>Yet that's what happened, according to a high-level risk analyst who had troubling dealings with the firm.<br><br>"Ptech had a couple of very troubling client relationships," states risk architect and whistleblower Indira Singh, "one of which was with the FAA. One of the 'persons of interest' in the investigation had a team in the basement of the FAA for two years."<br>Con't-<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/mc4512004.html">www.madcowprod.com/mc4512004.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>==========<br><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PTECH, 9/11, and USA-SAUDI TERROR - Part I</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>PROMIS Connections to Cheney Control of<br>9/11 Attacks Confirmed<br>by Jamey Hecht <br><br>With research assistance by Michael Kane<br>and editorial comment by Michael C. Ruppert<br><br>FTW: You said at the 9/11 Citizens' Commission hearings, you mentioned - it's on page 139 of transcript - that Ptech was with Mitre Corporation in the basement of the FAA for 2 years prior to 9/11 and their specific job was to look at interoperability issues the FAA had with NORAD and the Air Force, in case of an emergency.<br><br>Indira Singh: Yes, I have a good diagram for that. <br><br>FTW: And that relationship had been going on mediated by Ptech for 2 years prior to 9/11. You elsewhere say that the Secret Service is among the government entities that had a contract with Ptech. Mike Ruppert's thesis in Crossing the Rubicon, as you know, is that the software that was running information between FAA & NORAD was superseded by a parallel, subsuming, version of itself that was being run by the Secret Service on state of the art parallel equipment in the PEOC with a nucleus of Secret Service personnel around Cheney. In your view, might it have been the case that Cheney was using Ptech to surveil the function of the people in FAA & NORAD who wanted to do their jobs on 9/11, and then intervene to turn off the legitimate response?<br><br>Indira Singh: Is it possible from a software point of view? Absolutely it's possible. Did he (Cheney) have such a capability? I don't know. But that's the ideal risk scenario - to have an overarching view of what's going on in data. That's exactly what I wanted for JP Morgan. You know what's ironic about this - I wanted to take my operational risk blueprint which is for an operational event going wrong and I wanted to make it generic for extreme event risk to surveil across intelligence networks. What you're describing is something that I said, 'boy if we had this in place maybe 9/11 wouldn't have happened.' When I was going down to DARPA and getting these guys excited about creating an extreme event risk blueprint to do this, I'm thinking of doing exactly what you're saying Cheney might have already had!<br>***<br>I believe that Dick Cheney also had the ability using evolutions of the PROMIS software, to penetrate and override any other radar computer or communications system in the government.<br><br>Full story-<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/012005_ptech_pt1_summary.shtml">www.fromthewilderness.com...mary.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bannedfromdu>BannedfromDU</A> at: 8/20/06 12:48 am<br></i>
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Peak Oil, man

Postby nomo » Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:55 am

You know, if oil is really running out, what better place to flee to than Venezuela?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: thanks, BannedfromDU

Postby realp » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:06 pm

BannedfromDU:<br><br>i have scratched the surface of the indira singh story and it looks to be very deep. haven't had time to explore it thoroughly.<br><br>you mention NORAD, and that prompts me to ask a question, not for the first time within the RI world, about the war games.<br><br>ruppert claimed that the information on the war games was the "holy grail" of the 911 story. but he left many things unsaid, as do other researchers. superficially, the war games could actually be seen as absolving cheney and his cohorts. if most of the fighters were in western canada or alaska, that explains why the response to the highjackings was so lame. but that explanation is not something that can safely be revealed to the world. cheney and rumsfeld would have been able to tell the commissioners, congressional leaders, and media bigwigs, in hushed tones, that the plotters must have discovered that the wargames were scheduled, but we can't let the public or the world know this, for obvious reasons. not that a lot of these people would believe the story, but this approach has certain advantages.<br><br>it sets up a spectrum of belief: the official story, the story about the wargames being discovered by the terrorists, and the notion that 911 was a straight inside job. many people believe the official story. a number of insiders might believe the "penetration" story, in which the terrorists found out about the exercises, and perhaps a relatively modest number of people would think that the whole thing was done by u.s. insiders, probably including cheney. among the last group, few of those who have careers to worry about will speak up. they get it, but they're going to keep quiet. if the 911 perps would do 911, what would they not do to career people who expose the truth?<br><br>the other advantage has to do with time. clearly this administration understands that they can do things a lot more quickly than society can "process" those things. the debate is endless, which is their intent. they have fielded a very able team of media people who keep everyone arguing and divided (referring to limbaugh, o'reilly, coulter, and so on), while the government cabal moves forward with their agenda very quickly. the multi-layered structure of belief that arises out of the wargames gives them an initial fallback story, namely that the terrorists penetrated our military establishment and found out about the games and then took advantage of the situation. this would be embarrassing to the cabal, but it would also be frightening to the public, and the cabal would play that to the hilt.<br><br>this has not happened yet, but it seems to me that it would take years to absorb and process. there would probably be another commission, and in the end there would be more b.s. about reforming things and more endless arguing with the right-wing tricksters about how dastardly the terrorists are, how vulnerable we are, and so on.<br><br>in reality i believe that the wargames were necessary in order to remove the air defenses, along with a number of other measures that were taken to that effect, including the highack simulation exercise that was used to confuse people and mask the real attack. without most of the planes being far away, they simply could not have explained the stand-down. so the wargames are critical to the whole thing, but ruppert does not explain it this way, so far as i know (and i admit that i haven't read everything he has written about it, but i have searched for this explanation in vain). i haven't seen anyone deal with the issue in this sort of depth.<br><br>i would like to know whether what i'm saying makes sense to people, since it seems to me like a major gap in the 911 research.<br><br>i'd also like to hear more about the case against ruppert.<br><br>thanks again, BannedfromDU. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Mike Ruppert bails....A Permanent Goodbye to the US'

Postby dugoboy » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:04 pm

just to add my .02. when i first heard about Ruppert's office getting trashed i immediately assumed it was bullshit. in all these years how often does the government or the CIA go in and destroy an office? when do they ever make such a move and make it so obvious? <br><br>wouldn't an action like that, when its made public by a guy like ruppert (who WILL go public about an incident like that), just bring more attention and publicity to his cause? you figure the so called point of the operation (if it ever happened) was to suppress information he had, right? so they go and do such a visceral action...why would they do that? the best thing they could do would be to leave him alone. but now they've supposedly gone and done that and now he's in venezuela of all places, living the good life, screaming bloody murder.<br><br>its just wierd. <p>___________________________________________<br>"BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me<br><br>"Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action." - Ian Fleming<br><br>"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George Orwell</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.geocities.com/orcthrasher/files/images/Qn38113.gif" BORDER=0> at: 8/20/06 1:07 pm<br></i>
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