Iran report of Holocaust-style badges questioned

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Iran report of Holocaust-style badges questioned

Postby havanagilla » Fri May 19, 2006 7:02 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.940news.com/locale.php?news=2512">www.940news.com/locale.php?news=2512</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Iran report of Holocaust-style badges questioned<br>2006-05-19 12:01:29<br><br>The National Post is sending shockwaves across the country this morning with a report that Iran's Parliament has passed a law requiring mandatory Holocaust style badges to identify Jews and Christians.<br>But independent reporter Meir Javedanfar, an Israeli Middle East expert who was born and raised in Tehran, says the report is false.<br>"It's absolutely factually incorrect," he told The New 940 Montreal.<br>"Nowhere in the law is there any talk of Jews and Christians having to wear different colours. I've checked it with sources both inside Iran and outside."<br>"The Iranian people would never stand for it. The Iranian government wouldn't be stupid enough to do it."<br>Political commentator and 940 Montreal host Beryl Waysman says the report is true, that the law was passed two years ago.<br>"Jews should wear yellow strips, Christians red strips, because according to the Iranian mullahs, if a Mulsim shakes hands with a non-Muslim he becomes unclean."<br><br>The National Post cites Iranian expatriots living in Canada as its primary source on the story.<br>The Post story can be read here: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=11fbf4a8-282a-4d18-954f-546709b1240f&k=32073">www.canada.com/nationalpo...mp;k=32073</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>(You may have to highlight the link and copy and paste it into your browser.)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>A little nightly shitstorm in Israel. What is the the National Post and who is behind this stupid hoax ? this is really scary, is someone trying to instigate something ? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Iran report of Holocaust-style badges questioned

Postby thoughtographer » Fri May 19, 2006 7:12 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The National Post cites Iranian expatriots living in Canada as its primary source on the story.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>"Blame Canada!" <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>
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Re: Iran report of Holocaust-style badges questioned

Postby Sepka » Fri May 19, 2006 7:15 pm

Why would you think this is a hoax? "The Iranian government wouldn't be stupid enough to do it" could almost be the punchline from a comedy routine, considering their behaviour these past few months. <br><br>-Sepka the Space Weasel <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Iran report of Holocaust-style badges questioned

Postby havanagilla » Fri May 19, 2006 7:22 pm

Latest reports from Haaretz and several blogs is - that it is not true. Analysts from Israel, including from security services, all agree this is not true and even unthinkable. Still, Bush has commented to this news as real, and so did half the world. So, go figure.<br>It was my impression earlier on this board that canada will become more pivotal in the Bush plan, because of its Iranian diaspora, and that this is what determined the last elections. <br>--<br>However, I am now more sure than ever that no military action will be taken against Iran, and that Iran will take no military actions against Israel. This is due to Bush's political "low time". He can't pull another stunt now. Italy changed regimes and is pulling out of Iraq etc. But someone apparently tries to inflame and incite... <p></p><i></i>
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Pope Gregory the ninth here.....

Postby slimmouse » Fri May 19, 2006 9:03 pm

<br> It was Iraq<br><br> No, now it was Iran.<br><br> It was the Joos, No, it was the fuckhedbushcos, no it was elizardbeth the 2nd, no it was the mafican.<br><br> Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is just illusion <p></p><i></i>
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The National Post

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri May 19, 2006 10:25 pm

is a piece of shit neocon rag launched by Conrad Black in the mid-90s to provide an "alternative" to Canadian media's then liberal/prog. conserverative consensus. It's now owned by the Asper family, who control dozens of other papers and CanWest Global Television.<br><br>The Aspers' patriarch, Izzy, died a few years ago. From his <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzy_Asper">wiki</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>He was a prominent member of Canada's Jewish community, and was well-known for his strong faith and support for Israel. While a Liberal in domestic Canadian politics his views in regard to Zionism coincided with the right wing Likud - he was an admirer of Vladimir Jabotinsky.<br><br>Asper would occasionally pen editorials defending the nation in his various papers and was accused by a number of media observers of censoring opinions critical of Zionism or which he deemed sympathetic to the Palestinians. He was also a critic of public broadcasting media, especially the CBC both for competing with the private sector as well as alleging that CBC News had a pro-Palestinian bias. Critics have accused Asper of simply attempting to eliminate competition to his business and political opinions. It is ironic that his last television interview before his death was to CBC journalist Evan Solomon.<br><br>Asper was also a close friend of many of Canada's prominent political and business elite, including Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin. He had three children, David, Leonard and Gail, all of whom became lawyers. Leonard is also currently the President and CEO of CanWest Global.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "blame canada"

Postby havanagilla » Sat May 20, 2006 4:18 am

:-)<br><br>some bad karma, that's all.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "blame canada"

Postby Qutb » Sat May 20, 2006 8:12 am

According to Human Rights organizations, Iranian Jews and Christians are <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>not</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> persecuted. So it's quite right that this is unthinkable. This should be well known to president Bush's advisors... the propaganda war has definitely started. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "blame canada"

Postby havanagilla » Sat May 20, 2006 10:17 am

Although he has not completed his evil plan, thank God, Bush did manage to scrap back every bit of gains, Canada made from selling out to Iran. By the time he is done, every dollar from Iran to canada will have been re routed to the "the mother ship"...in DC and a few more millions to cover fees and expenses (buying the elections, etc).<br>--<br>Bit of a moral lesson to the Canadian left. You mess up with the big guys in a field you know little of (and attempt to immitate the "take no prisoners" ethos...) - you are gonig to fail and pay for this failure both financial and any other way.<br>Too bad, but this has been the case with the left all over the world, which made it very easy for the Bushcos to win. Only solidarity can really stand up. Dirty "let's play CIA" games, always failed, big time (see Italy, Israel Germany, France and the UK, etc.).<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "blame canada"

Postby starroute » Sat May 20, 2006 2:08 pm

According to a comment at Juan Cole's blog, the story was spread by Iranian exile Amir Taheri:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.juancole.com/2006/05/another-fraud-on-iran-no-legislation.html">www.juancole.com/2006/05/...ation.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Taheri is a client of Benador Associates, the PR firm formed after 911 as a propaganda shop to promote war with Iraq and now with Iran. Their client list alone is something of an eye-opener:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.benadorassociates.com/members.php">www.benadorassociates.com/members.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Ali Al-Ahmed<br>Ali Ahmed Al-Baghli<br>Nir Boms<br>Arnaud de Borchgrave<br>Ismail Cem<br>Leon Charney<br>Ariel Cohen<br>Saad Eddin Ibrahim<br>Rachel Ehrenfeld<br>John Eibner<br>Hillel Fradkin<br>Ilana Freedman<br>David Gelernter<br>Dr. Stephen Gullo<br>Michel Gurfinkiel<br>Alexander M. Haig, Jr.<br>Victor Davis Hanson<br>Fereydoun Hoveyda<br>Mansoor Ijaz<br>Raphael Israeli<br>Charles Jacobs<br>George Jonas<br>Stanley H. Kaplan<br>Efraim Karsh<br>Charles Krauthammer<br>Herbert I. London<br>Lord Lamont of Lerwick<br>Michael A. Ledeen<br>Kanan Makiya<br>Paul Marshall<br>Andrew C. McCarthy<br>Michael Meyer<br>Hassan Mneimneh<br>Laurie Mylroie<br>Ayman Nour<br>John O'Sullivan<br>Yossi Olmert<br>Salameh Nematt<br>Richard Perle<br>Walid Phares<br>Richard Pipes<br>Dennis Prager<br>David Pryce-Jones<br>Tom Rose<br>A.M. Rosenthal<br>Jano Rosebiani<br>Tashbih Sayyed<br>Natan Sharansky<br>Richard O. Spertzel<br>Amir Taheri<br>Paul Vallely<br>Ruth Wedgwood<br>James Woolsey<br>Meyrav Wurmser<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>(Though for whatever reason, a few interesting names seem to be absent from the list, like Michael Ledeen, who does appear elsewhere on the Benador website:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.benadorassociates.com/ledeen.php)">www.benadorassociates.com/ledeen.php)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The Benador list has a striking degree of overlap with the International Advisory Board of the Jerusalem Summit, founded by Russian-Israeli Mafia figure Michael Cherney/Mikhail Chernoy:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/board.php">www.jerusalemsummit.org/eng/board.php</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>nternational Advisory Board<br><br>Michael Cherney, Chairman of the Board of Trustees<br>Dmitry Radyshevsky, Executive director of the Summit<br>Dr. Martin Sherman, Academic Director<br><br>Chairman:<br>Gary Bauer, President, American Values<br><br>Academic Committee:<br>Dr. Christopher Barder<br>Dr. Atalia Ben Meir<br>Dr. Josef Bodansky<br>Dr. Debora Bodlander<br>Dr. Ron Breiman<br>Dr. David Bukay<br>Dr. Rachel Ehrenfeld<br>Dr. Hillel Fradkin<br>Prof. Rafi Israeli<br>Dr. Mordechai Nisan<br>Prof. Moshe Sharon<br>David Pryce-Jones<br>Prof. Shlomo Slonim<br>Prof. Johny Swails<br>Dr. Meyrav Wurmser<br>Prof. Xu Xin<br><br>Public Affairs Committee:<br>Marisa Albert<br>Morrie Amitay<br>Lt. Gen. Paul Cerjan (US Army, Ret.)<br>Yoram Ettinger<br>Dr. Sergei Filatov<br>Dr. K.P.S. Gill<br>Rev. Malcolm Hedding<br>Richard A.Hellman<br>Amb. Alan Keyes<br>Pres. (Frm.) L. A. Lacalle<br>Michael Landau<br>Esther Levens<br>Rev. Kenneth Meshoe<br>Rev. Myles Munroe<br>Gen.l Paul E. Vallely<br>Leah Susskind<br><br>Media Committee:<br>John Batchelor<br>Mike Evans<br>Michael Freund<br>John Loftus<br>Itamar Marcus<br>Dennis Prager<br>Ben Stein<br>Bret Stephens<br>R. Emmett Tyrell<br><br>Svietka, Project Coordinator<br>Jenny Grigg, Academic Coordinator<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Googling on these names and their various interconnections is guaranteed to provide hours of innocent pleasure. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=starroute>starroute</A> at: 5/20/06 12:12 pm<br></i>
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Re: "blame canada"

Postby havanagilla » Sat May 20, 2006 2:25 pm

See how everyone thinks its ok to have "dress code" for women...but god forbid if its against men (jews, christians, whatever) - "ah, its just that ol' women oppression...who give a damn"<br>--<br>Thank you for the reference to benador and the jerusalem summit, always interesting to look at the israeli names there.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING IN THE NAT POST

Postby greencrow0 » Sat May 20, 2006 3:06 pm

from juancole.com<br><br>Saturday, May 20, 2006<br><br>Another Fraud on Iran: No Legislation on Dress of Religious Minorities <br><br>Maurice Motamed, the representative of the Iranian Jewish community in Iran's parliament, has strongly denied the rumors started by Canada's National Post that the Iranian legislature has passed a law requiring members of religious communities to wear identifying badges.<br><br>The report was also denied on Montreal radio by Meir Javedanfar, Middle East Analyst and the Director for the Middle East Economic and Political Analysis Company. <br><br>The National Post was founded by Conrad Black and has been owned by CanWest since 2003,* is not a repository of expertise about Iran. It is typical of black psychological operations campaigns that they begin with a plant in an out of the way* newspaper that is then picked up by the mainstream press. Once the Jerusalem Post picks it up, then reporters can source it there, even though the Post has done no original reporting and has just depended on the National Post article, which is extremely vague in its own sourcing (to "human rights groups"). <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "blame canada"

Postby starroute » Sat May 20, 2006 4:34 pm

hava -<br><br>Any feedback you can give on the Israeli names would be welcome -- especially Yossi Olmert. Does that seem strange to anybody over there? <p></p><i></i>
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Of Course...

Postby thurnandtaxis » Sat May 20, 2006 5:59 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>this </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> story is front page news in today's New York Post.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/68837.htm">www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/68837.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Fourth Reich" !!!<br><br><br>indeed... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thurnandtaxis>thurnandtaxis</A> at: 5/20/06 4:11 pm<br></i>
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Re: yossi olmert

Postby havanagilla » Sat May 20, 2006 6:41 pm

is the little bro of our PM.<br><br>he was the "lefty" of the family (4 brothers), and so...not surprisingly, he went bankrupt and had to virtually ESCAPE Israel (he is a fugitive, strictly talking) with debts up to his head, and legal to criminal complications all having to do with finance. He is an academic by profession. (the other brothers are all big power - ehud -PM, the other - Mayor of small city, the other - CEO of big public corp). So, I am not surprised he is among these people, I am sure he had little to NO choice but to do what big brother Ehud says, in order to save his neck. He was in REAL big trouble here. But basically, he is a nice and OK guy.<br>--<br>BTW, Ehud Ulmert has a LEFTY wife and 3 LEFTY kids. His daughter is anarchist activist against the wall; another son asked to be dismissed from military on mental health grounds, other son immigrated from israel for good, possibly on political grounds as well. <br>--<br> <p></p><i></i>
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