DU tombstoned TIA? anyone else catching this?

[RobertEmmet]

Right, TruthIsAll is gone and now Will Pitt is back. I rember a post Pitt made to GD excoriating the forum users for the inferior nature of their posts. He said he wouldn't be back. Well he was a few times and it didn't generate much attention. Who cares what he says. He's quit more times than Sinatra.<br><br>It is clear that the TIA banning was a set up. The users who were being picked on are gone. Is anyone surprised? If they were so hard-done-by with TIA there, and they stuck around, then they would surely be more active whith his departure. They are not. These questions cannot be asked on DU because the Admins and Mods have no answers. They fear honest discussion. <br><br>DKOS set a policy of no election fraud. DU bans TIA for no real reason. I think that these forums are heavily influenced by the folks at DNC who are deathly afraid to tell the truth (for whatever reason)--two stolen elections.<br><br>About the mods being torn up, all it takes is one dissenting mod and a user cannot be banned, from what I hear. If there isn't one of them with the courage to say NO, then I don't care if they're torn up. They should be.<br><br>DU broke a big rule, they lost the trust of many, many users. When an alternative emerges, watch people run in a hurry to join up. Then the mods and Admins will have their way, everyone with anything to say will be quiet.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[DrDebugDU]

> I don't know why, oh, I guess I do know why, but sometimes the Pitts of the world piss me off more than the fascists. <br><br>I just put WilliamPitt on ignore. I went back to the story and saw that the stories of those who tried to speak out against William where deleted and that included the posts by SwampRat who lost everything in New Orleans! Even SwampRat wasn't allowed to talk against William Pitt. Talk about selective moderation! They saved Will's ass as usual!<br><br>Because of the disaster I forgot why I stopped posting at DU... but it's clear again.<br><br>About TruthIsAll it is clear that he had been under constant attack from the alphabet agencies since he started to reveal his findings. His findings may not proof it conclusively, but it offers proof beyond reasonable doubt. And that is why TruthIsAll needed to be stiffled.<br><br>I guess this says it all:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>walldude<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>22. So can anyone tell me why</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>when I made a thread about this yesterday, that they were witholding the food and water on purpose that it got deleted? There was nothing bad in the thread, all responses were positive, yet I was told many threads with this subject were taboo and being deleted. Why today is it all of a sudden on the front page?<br><br>Der Blaue Engel<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>29. It's the anti-conspiracy conspiracy</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>You have to have two layers of tinfoil around here sometimes...one for "them" and one for "us."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4582681&mesg_id=4583203">www.democraticunderground...id=4583203</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Somehow this picture makes me smile <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://xs44.xs.to/pics/05356/williampitt.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/3/05 5:45 am<br></i>

[mikita]

ya know, that picture is the first thing that has made me smile all week -- so I'm goin over to DU and put William Pitt on ignore -- the first time I will use that feature in 4 years....<br>Thanks! Wish I had thought of it months ago... <p></p><i></i>

[Watchful Citizen]

While I'm wary of any censorship, I understand the likely motives for keeping some topics at arms length for the first few days of the news cycle to see how it shakes out on the 'credibility meter.'<br><br>Remember how British anti-terrorist contractor Peter Power breathlessly set us up by saying the 7/7/05 London tube bombings exactly mirrored his exercise? And then he pooh-poohed this AFTER the internet truth movement had waved the 'false-flag terror' story all over the place. This could've been a psy-op set-up to discredit the internet or something even more complicated.<br><br>DU admin must be aware that unregulated intelligence is so dangerous to the American government that it will be attacked with COINTELPRO discrediting techniques just like the ones used by the FBI to attack the New Left anti-war movement during the Vietnam War. Nevemind mere Freepers, DARPA and all the alphabet agencies have an interest in keeping people off the internet.<br><br>Agent provocateurs are all over the internet.<br><br>I think this is why there is so much porn spam, to discourage parents from letting their kids on the internet where they might learn just how OBSCENE our government is and not join the military.<br><br>Discrediting and repelling advertising is all over Air America Radio with so many adds for itchy skin, head lice, sex enhancers and other unpleasant advertisers. This is Clear Channel trying to surreptitiously repel new independant listeners and cross-over 'conservatives.'<br>My station even has two ads playing at once or minutes of dead air to drive listeners away with selective engineering incompetence.<br><br>And please...Jerry Springer in the all important morning drive slot?? Discrediting programming.<br><br>Character smear and discrediting are the easiest way to neutralize a whistleblower so the "Wacky Paranoid Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy Theory" trapdoor is what the DU admin and Will Pitt are dancing around when they tighten their conceptual sphincters to avoid unauthorized entry by mindwar spooks.<br><br>When the January tsunami happened there were DU threads about Pentagon work on weaponizing weather and ELF affecting plate tectonics which FOX and the NYT highlighted to scoff at those wacky lefties at DU by misportraying the posts as saying "Bush caused the earthquake." The Eye of the Dragon attention inspired the DU admin to delete any reference to those topics for quite a while and I suspect that the DU admin kept track of those who posted on the topic just in case they were discrediting agents working hand in glove with media agents to take down the internet truth movement.<br><br>The actual existence of the Pentagon's black science projects isn't relevant, just the psy-ops factor of publishing things not commonly known and getting dismissed for Chip Berlet's favorite early-scorning-system, "conspiracism."<br><br>So everytime a big story flames up like the London tube bombings, the DU admin throw a wet blanket on the suspicious accusations against The Powers That Be until more info comes around just in case the flames are sabotage against DU credibility.<br><br>The well is already terribly poisoned, something we just have to deal with when people won't drink.<br><br>Which brings up the next easy COINTELPRO tactic:<br>sowing distrust and repelling participation in effective activist groups.<br><br>It took me a while to figure out that revealing the history of the secret government and its spooks can serve the purpose of chilling participation in resistance just the way scientific fascism intends! Kind of like CIA showing the pictures of Abu Ghraib torture to new prisoners so torturing them isn't necessary. They get 'the picture' and respond fearfully.<br><br>So don't write off DU just because some mod wrote off you.<br><br>Don't give up any territory just because it gets hostile.<br>Welcome to MindWars where the knowledgable and PERSISTENT win the war for American hearts and minds. <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

always with the interesting posts.<br><br>Don't know if I completely agree, but interesting none the less... <p></p><i></i>

[DrDebugDU]

Watchful Citizen it is very good post indeed.<br><br>I understand that DU has to become institutionalized given it's size and unlike DailyKos it is not so much the management which is wrong, but it is more that they themselves are slightly pressured to fall in line with the DLC/Democratic Party.<br><br>> DU admin must be aware that unregulated intelligence is so dangerous to the American government that it will be attacked<br><br>That is indeed the major problem. The post Eloriel has created from the posts of all DU users contains so much information that it is highly valuable. And it only takes a large community a couple of hours to combine everything. Even if half the stories are irrelevant on closer inspection it still managed to produce a huge investigative document in a speed which is beyond any known organization. Therefore Will started to attack it, started a post discrediting it and it was subsequently deleted from the Greatest Post page (even though it was 37 votes and qualifies for a #4 position).<br><br>And I know that Will is connected to the Democratic Party (through his father) and I have always wondered whether he is related to Harvey Pitt, William Pitt, the Younger and William Pitt, the Elder because that means that he is from an aristrocratic family which used to rule Great Britian.<br><br>> I think this is why there is so much porn spam<br><br>I know. The spam has disabled my normal provider account. So much spam is coming into that account that I just let it overflow and have been using webbased accounts. Spam investigators will tell you that it is just a small group doing most the spamming and most are located in the South of Florida. Yet they are untouchable for some strange reason even though millions of people are targeted by their disgusting stuff and they have literally ruined e-mail as a functioning system.<br><br>> Don't give up any territory just because it gets hostile.<br><br>Well the point is that sometimes valuable people like TIA are written off and it is not a nice feeling to suddenly see your posts deleted. On the other hand I don't mind that anymore that much... it just means that you sometimes discovered something which is beyond the normal threshold. <p></p><i></i>

[Watchful Citizen]

A cover for 'gate keeper' in the above described Skinner Box hypothesis. <br><br>But survivability is a valid goal in an amateur resistance movement which must last for the long haul against institutionalized fascism with state-controlled media against We the People.<br><br>I think of myself and the like-minded in evidence at this website as guerilla fighters in the MindWar that Lt. Col. (and Satanist) Michael Aquino wrote about for the Pentagon, 'asserting with rapport the inevitability of victory' to gain support from friends and demoralize enemies.<br><br>One must be willing to use all possible allies and venues like DemocraticUnderground to gain more allies against fascism.<br><br>Another good role to play is Lawyer for the Prosecution by making the case to the American public that the White House is guilty as hell by showing<br>Means - Motive - Opportunity<br>the way attorney Mark Lane nailed E. Howard Hunt in a libel case by showing the jury the CIA's role in murdering JFK.<br><br>I learned a hell of a lot at DU before I was attacked by Clarkies who are probably professional operatives so it is still possible to spread info that will bring more people over to our side and away from someone who wrote a book called 'Winning Modern Wars' and just posted at TPMCafe that "America can never truly be an anti-war nation since (blah blah)...as a last resort." <p></p><i></i>