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Postby ir » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:23 pm

yes, I am considering the option that my email problem is unrelated, a glitch or so, these things DO happen, it has happened in the past only to find out it was a bona fide technical. Thanks for the advice with the email. I rarely download large stuff on my PC cause its a tiny, shitty pentium 2 with virtually no space on it. I lost two PC's this last year for god knows what kind of virus/hacking attacks. its becoming expensive.<br>As for government/cops - sure, in the last week i have been hyperactive with spiiling out beans, perhaps the departure of my father was already effecting me psychicly, to let my tongue loose. In my blog I posted one very "ouchi" post about events related to the Israeli NZ passport scam, which I was not supposed to write this way. I know it pissed the thugs badly, cause I put real names there. There is a little game going on this way all my life. I get punished for talking...but then i found out that not talking does not get anyone off my case. In fact it was wierd, cause the post, which came from my gut, not my brains, was about how families like mine bring children to use them for semi official scams for the government, and how my family "trained" me from youth to perform this role and then virtually "sold" me to whoever. It was the first time I wrote direclty about my family. But I also realized that they were brought up the same way, they were victims of same depresonalization and exploitation. Its what they know and the only way they know to live. nothing else.<br>--- <p></p><i></i>
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DE, thanks and green delta

Postby ir » Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:34 pm

Thanks for the advice and the research/explanation. I know riseup and i used to have an account there, the reason i switched to Yahoo, is that their email is far more friendly to use and convenient in terms of interface. I didn't know its now safe. I will try the hushmail, but I don't believe my adversaries are going to be impressed by encryption, its good to shake off lay harassment and trolls.<br>--<br>THe Green Delta is SCARY, i read some more of the message thread, there was another that I can't find now, about various psychiatric drugs used in Elite Army units (US army), to keep the soldiers paranoid and alert, and it gave me a sickness, and fear just to read it. I don't know who these people are, but they are not nice and not amatuers. Some are clearly working for pharma industries and BioTech. I didn't quite understand the "game" of the website, except that it can also serve as a very good training yard for programmers and identity theives of sorts. What scared me was that this email, came in transliterated HEBREW to me. Namely, it is an ISraeli, alligned with this group of madmen. He was probably referring to an old post about the disengagement, I don't know which one, and what I wrote that got him worked up. But it exposed him, anyway, which is good.<br>ISH1 is a way to write a hebrew idiom "ISh Ehad" namely, One Man, and this refers to a parable of biblical origins. kind of too long to get into now. <br>---<br>There is a host of those computer wizkids (Israeli/American dual stuff) who do programming and manipulation of people via internet/computer. I knew onw who worked in JPL, they have adopted a NAzi state of mind for some reason, and treat this torture of people (identity theft and MC/RA for intel) as a professional matter. kind of "just doing my job" attitude. <br><br>I suspect ISraeli/CIA groups do a lot of identity theft and programming to get compartmentalized jobs done. Little jobs or big ones and also intellectual plagiarism. Sort of using one's brain as a "processing unit", feeding an idea and awaiting results of 'query'. It sounds weird, but that's what I felt they are trying to do many times. COuld include psychic stuff and processing of "scanrios", large scale scenarios, what if...type. AS you can see from the Greed Delta stuff, they are trying to play out a scenario of "Mythos", a grand event and who will be ready or better prepared to receive it without being crushed. They are talking medications and stuff, and also there is a thread among those guys there about Satanic abuse in childhood. Clearly many of them are professionals, MD mainly and others. Yikessssss....I hope I missed something and it is only only a game, I'd be relieved to find out its just benign crap, even if it makes me look over hyped and paranoid.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Unecessary paranoia on my part?

Postby Gouda » Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:51 pm

IR, i am not quite sure what you mean in your last post, but I think i do. Sort of. <br><br>What you say here, <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I suspect ISraeli/CIA groups do a lot of identity theft and programming to get compartmentalized jobs done. Little jobs or big ones and also intellectual plagiarism. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Sort of using one's brain as a "processing unit", feeding an idea and awaiting results of 'query'.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> It sounds weird, but that's what I felt they are trying to do many times. COuld include psychic stuff and processing of "scanrios", large scale scenarios, what if...type.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->is interesting. Dick Decent said something related in the "Spooks In The System Anybody?? thread: <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I certainly would guess that a board and community such as this one would routinely be monitored by THEM. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>THEY after all are intelligent, and so would want to be aware of current trends in how well their cover ups and propaganda were actually holding up, [if at all] to those with open[ish] eyes</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> The “Something is building again” thread is worth re-reading with these thoughts in mind. <br><br>Is your yahoo sorted out yet? <p></p><i></i>
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email is still out, but-

Postby ir » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:29 am

i am corresponding with what appears to be a "robot" of Yahoo. support that impersonates as a real person. :-) namely, they just answer those routine responses, but first I thought there is a real support person answering. so, i am not sure this will halp at all. this morning the support robot answered "your acouunt seems to be up and running again.." I was happy, but its not "up and working". <br><br>I posted request for help on my Hebrew blog, someone answered that they sometimes suspend the account for violation. Now, this is also done automatically by a computer that reports violations, and then the account resumes operation after a week, sort of "warning" or it doesn't and there is nothing to do about it. <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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gouda, what I meant.

Postby ir » Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:32 am

was on an individual level, but it could work on groups as well, i am sure. <br>if you wanted to devise a spin of pubic opinion you'd need a test group as well. <br>I know that there were group experiments, and in my understanding even family experiments. <br>---<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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perhaps mistery "role player" spammer is solved

Postby ir » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:41 pm

I had mentioned a bizarre hate email, leading back to origins in green delta role playing website, rather creepy website and thread.<br>Today, in my blog-host, a new blogger joined the team, announcing himself to be<br>-. freemason<br>- role playing fan/expert<br>- and various other novel hobbies, <br>Person, Ziv Kitaro is bi lingual (US-ISrael) person with many blogs websites and whatnot, 27 years old, married,<br><br>Me thinks he is the author of hate email and posibly the cause of deactivated yahoo mailbox (stil deactivated).<br><br>watch out, a new Israeli-American spooky team is in the game. Its a guess but the coincidences are too many to dismiss as "maybe"...<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: perhaps mistery "role player" spammer is solve

Postby Project Willow » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:11 pm

Hi IR,<br>I'm sorry for not responding sooner. I hope your troubles with email, etc. are corrected soon.<br><br>I understand your analysis of your family situation. When I am not stuck in rage or pain, I perceive mine the same way. My parents were victims, as well as perps. They were used by the government and crime network too. Unlike me, they cannot get free. They will never experience so many things that I will because I am rebelling. For that I feel pity, but they were also extremely destructive, so many lives affected, and some lives ruined because of their deeds. I know when they pass, I'll also feel relief, I'll feel more safe and free.<br><br>Strength to you in dealing with all of these issues. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby ir » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:34 pm

hey, thanks.<br><br>having your parents as your worst danger/enemy is a tremendous, inhuman, test to survival and faith. The mere fact that I have to contain those conflicting emotions of hate, rage, despair along with guilt and pity, is already a huge suffering. I have to remind myself that it was their job to protect me and not the other way around. they have tortured me in a way that is indescribable, and recently almost got me killed, and my son as well, just because their "secrets" were on line, and also they could not bear the thought of me being free and safe away from the heat of hell. <br>But we kids, always love them, no matter what they do. I still feel responsible for him, even now, that I was supposed to save them as well, or first of all, even from their own vices, let alone the abuse of larger forces.<br>---<br>I dno't know about you, but the more I know of the magnitude and dimensions of those organizations who running these freak shows, the more I feel sorry for them. It is HARD to belive there are such organizations, one tends to become numb, for life, and stay in a make belief state of denial, even though it means constant suffering. Containing the huge scales of the horror is a true test for my psyche and mind. I now realize those groups who do those awful things are good at spotting human weaknesses and the prey on them. What are the chances of avoiding this pit fall once the masters of horror have put their eye on you ? very slim. especially if you are not equipped with a worldview that encompasses their existence to start with. One has to have a very large view of the world in order to map this atrocity correctly and meet it head on. <br>I am now exposed to family "courting", and I have to pinch myself every now and then to snap out of the luring trap. they have not changed, they will not change, the fact that he died, should not weaken my resolve to stay clear of them. <br>The sudden death of my elder sister two years ago, is what rocked me off balance and caused a chain of mistakes, driven by misguided sentimentalism, and I am still not recovered from what they did to me then. I am now resolved, determined, to let nothing push me back in this death trap.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: IR

Postby Project Willow » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:52 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I still feel responsible for him, even now, that I was supposed to save them as well, or first of all, even from their own vices, let alone the abuse of larger forces.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Oh, I hear you and I struggled with that for years. Such an odd bonding, it was almost as if, especially my mother, knew I had something that made me stronger. She leaned on me so hard. It was so difficult to break that feeling of responsibility, that guilt intertwined in all the bad things they did. Another message was that I owed it to them to allow them to hurt me, or they would be hurt. Ick. Sometimes a part of my mother would pop out who admired that I'd rebelled.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The sudden death of my elder sister two years ago, is what rocked me off balance and caused a chain of mistakes, driven by misguided sentimentalism, and I am still not recovered from what they did to me then. I am now resolved, determined, to let nothing push me back in this death trap.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>That makes sense, and the push and pull I think is something all of us go through. If you ever feel your resolve being challenged, give a shout, you're not alone. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby saintsimon » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:54 am

regarding your yahoo email experience, a similar thing happened to my hotmail account a few years ago. before they were forced by the competition to offer much more storage space, i used to periodically get messages stating that my storage was "dangerously" full and that i needed to delete messages (i am terrible at deleting old stuff). i was at a medical meeting in asia and didn't check my email for one week (it was not any longer than this) and when i returned home i discovered that my ENTIRE account storage had been deleted -- my account was still there, but all the folders and the inbox were completely empty. this included obviously some very personal and emotionally valuable emails from friends/family, as well as some scientific/medical related emails (but thankfully none containing patient information). all in all, it was about 6 years of messages/thousands of emails. i was devastated. after several weeks of emails back and forth with the hotmail folks before i got a human response, i was told they would look into it. approximately three months later the official response was basically "shit happens," the contents of all those emails were gone forever and there is nothing they could do. <br><br>makes me wonder what i did to piss them off, and what they have done with the contents of all those emails. <p></p><i></i>
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My condolences regarding your father

Postby Seventhson » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:27 am

I am sure this must be very sad for you and it seems that he too, as all of us, is a victim of these current generation of Nazis who seem to be running things everywhere.<br><br>My thoughts and prayers are with you.<br><br>Seventh Son <p></p><i></i>
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choices

Postby jenz » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:13 am

I am in awe of those survivors who deal with the huge emotional rupture of knowing that the care giver and hurter were the same person. and of the children abused out of the family who try so hard to protect their parents, (and sometimes therapists or other carers) from the emotional pain that 'knowing' brings. <br>the victim perpetrator line is blurred in ra, from the first moment a little child is dragged in to a pseudo perpetrator role, given unacceptable choices for example, and carries the guilt of this along with the pain they suffer directly.<br><br>IR you are right, the only way is to impose a line in the sand. <br><br>Whatever process leads a person to be a perpetrator, on whichever bit of the continuum between cynical exploiter, believer, blackmailed, duped, scared, they can place themselves, - No excuse for child abuse.<br><br>Until the people understand, and insist that ra groups, however they are founded, are busted open, its nearly impossible for a target who wants to protect a child to escape and be safe. I wish there were a way of making that known.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Postby mother » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:42 pm

Firstly, may I offer respect for all the conflicting issues which come with the passing-away of a parent who betrayed something so sacred, a child given to him/her. Who can ever hope to understand the mystery of how we can still love our parents no matter what? Yet so very important to have serious boundaries, but even with those in place we're still human and the pain will rip us no matter what. I recently had important, sensitive emails stolen by some bad people trying to protect their corrupt interests. ( I say, go ahead losers, you need them more than we do.) But please keep us posted,OK? <p></p><i></i>
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