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[scollon]

There were only an estimated four million people who died in the camps in total as far as I understand the official figures. <br><br>"you are the one that thinks - once the Jews are out of palestine the Anglo American Zionist Oil machine will just fade ?"<br><br>Not at all, just that it is the reason why israel was created and is maintained with American money.<br><br>"especially since you insist, again, that the Jews are at the root of the Anglo American oil imperialism."<br><br>I do not. I say that currently American neocon Jews seem to be driving US military campaigns in the middle east. Not that they were behind the American policy to create the state of Israel.<br><br>You're right that neither the British or Americans showed any real concern (by action) for Jews during WW II (by bombing the camps for example), I wonder why ? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=scollon>scollon</A> at: 1/3/06 9:50 am<br></i>

[ir]

there are very sophisticated robot software programs, perhaps Scollon is one of them. <br>so you are admitting that you are a coward who instead of resisting or protesting the anglo american empire (which, according to you established israel for the wrong reasons), rather you claim your divine, christian right to bark at those you think cannot harm you ?<br><br>perhaps YOUR existence as a political joke explains the situation. if the liberal left in those countries is too scared to protest against their own governments...and pick on the jews whom you think were only pawns...well, we are doomed. all of us.<br><br>I know cowards like you, in my own place. you want other people to pay for YOUR IDEALS.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[scollon]

I'm not a Christian, I have never attended church voluntarily in my life and I don't bark at anyone except at the full moon either.<br><br>The left in Britain has a pretty solid anti Israel stance, they tend not to like oppression by a racist military machine. I think it has been kind of forgotten that Israel is an American outpost what with the completely preposterous and ridiculous sight of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton posing as peace makers. It <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>was</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> assumed to be in the '70s. Now the focus of anger is the Jewish state itself. Britain is too smart to be blamed for almost anything and very few people realise the disproprtionately massive British interest in the global oil market.<br><br>You can call me a coward if you like but my political stance is to keep my head well and truly down. The gap between reality (conspiracy stuff) and public perception is massive as is the intelligence level between security sevices (MI5, MI6 , CIA, Mossad) and the average citizen.<br><br>I do believe in the New World Order (PNAC etc.) conspiracy and I don't believe anyone can stop it. <p></p><i></i>

[ir]

Not everyone was executed in camps. most of the Russian Jews were plainly shot to death in mass graves in then Russia, others were rounded up in ghettos and executed by the army, "in the old fashion way". I believe only Bellarus had well over half million jews executed this way, my family included. regretfully, nobody assumed responsibility for these people, and all the property they owned, whole villages and towns and neighbourhoods. <br>--<br>Germany paid "wholesale" to the govenment of Israel during the Edenauer deal. But the Russian goverment is not allowing restitution or land claims, and now each of these new countries is independent and cannot afford to pay back for the damage. <br><br>check out the mass murder of Jews during the relatively brief occupatoin of then USSR by German army, on its way to Moscow...<br>Babi Yar, is where I think half million people were eliminated.<br><br>Same goes for Greece, Italy and other such "little countries", Balkan and all, where most of the Jews were wiped out locally. <br><br>I'll take this as a genuine attempt on your part to learn the truth, although i have found some coincidences, your bits of theories appearing the next week by the pres if Iran..which makes me wonder who feeds his speech writers with theories ? perhaps some bored Brittish lads ? <br><br>IMHO, Iranian pres made some valid points, which people here validated, but he blew it big time with "holocaust denial" crap, and now his credibility is gone. he retracted, but such things are very indicative of a person's general make up. Because not only is it despicable and without any grounds to deny that, but those tedious attempts to undermine the figures, are sickening. It would be equally disgusting if I challenged the numbers of people dead in Hiroshima, to prove some point against the Japanese. this is like killing the victims again, by cowards who can't stand up against the people in power. You have something against Bush and Blair, say it, don't use human beings, or dead humans as "messengers". Yikes.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[scollon]

You know very well the holocaust refers to the deliberate attempt by the Nazi regime to kill every Jew they could by transportation to death camps and gassing. That's what the Iranian president was talking about and denying happened. According to what I've read I tend to lean strongly in that direction too. I could be wrong of course.<br><br>No one is denying Hitler's anti-semitism or deliberate persecution of the Jews including murder. The figures I only know by reading about the camps. The actual numbers seem to be much less than the four million I quoted.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[ir]

"You can call me a coward if you like but my political stance is to keep my head well and truly down"<br><br>you seem to get all up and cocky when it comes to Jews...if you keep your head down, keep it that way all the time, it is rather embarassing and ugly to see those weakling and cowards get very brave when they think someone is weaker than them.<br><br>The left in Britain, I hope you are not a typical one, has done some good as well, except blabbering about gass chambers. The left in the UK has granted support to israeli dissident groups, has been active in issuing arrest warrants against Israeli generals, and has been boycotting (though briefly...) Israeli academia over the treatment of arabs thereby. I take those actions to be more useful than engaging in old regurgitated and quite stinking holocaust denying.<br> <br>If you are afraid of MI5, just imagine that we here, in the Middle East have much more reasons to be afraid. So, lead by example !<br>-<br>Lastly, I don't know which books you have been reading, but besides a few nuts, nobody challenges the figures of Auschwitz gassing and extermination. Those Jews who were assassinated by german soldiers/SS in Russia, are no less victims of holocaust, if not more. They were not soldiers, and the killing was conducted by the SS and not part of war. It is even worse, because while the german army was supposed to have won a war, the SS and Gestapo were focused on digging up Jews and killing them en mass. I think this is even more holocaust than the camps, it shows the Germans were willing to lose the war, and risk their army and country to carry out the obssessive killing of unarmed civilian Jews. <br><br>--<br>BTW, German military was amongst the harshest enemies and opposition to Hitler's Jewish "thing", since they were clearly aware from the outset that he is mad. <br><br>--<br>Gladly, even Iran's pres is more educated than you, and he retracted the denial and changed course, to a more reasonable attack, namely, that those who killed the Jews should be the ones paying for the crimes. Indeed, that is true. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[scollon]

"Lastly, I don't know which books you have been reading, but besides a few nuts, nobody challenges the figures of Auschwitz gassing and extermination"<br><br>I thought you lost that argument comprehensively already. I didn't forget, sorry. You sound like other people on this forum, The rest of the paragraph is pure fantasy just like your earlier stated belief Arabs were your friends against the American imperialists.<br><br>I'm not interested in fighting with Jews nor MI5. I know someone who tried fighting Special Branch, he lost. Unlike you, I don't have any deadly enemies nearby to worry about. <p></p><i></i>