"What the Bleep Do We Know?"

by **anonymouse** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:05 am

"it's more like a documentary, and a highly intelligent one" I believe this is the part that I and other people are having problems with here... I didn't see anything intelligent or documentary-like about the film.. it's just a promotional vehicle for the cult of Ramtha, who has some great investment opportunities for you, especially if you're a wealthy and gullible Hollywood star. I try to be as open minded as possible but this one just set off all of my bullshit detectors. There are many things in this world about which I have no idea, really, but I feel fairly confident that the people behind the Ramtha cult and behind this movie are spiritual/financial con artists and charlatans.

by **slimmouse** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:41 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>really, what the fuck do we know?<hr></blockquote> To paraphrase ; "I dont know is the best starting point of any argument" Was that Plato or Aristotle ? I dont know.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> I think Jeffs link to Hawkins rather sums it up. The more we probably perceive we know, the more questions this indeed probably leaves to answer.

by **professorpan** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:42 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>I believe this is the part that I and other people are having problems with here... I didn't see anything intelligent or documentary-like about the film.. it's just a promotional vehicle for the cult of Ramtha, who has some great investment opportunities for you, especially if you're a wealthy and gullible Hollywood star. I try to be as open minded as possible but this one just set off all of my bullshit detectors. There are many things in this world about which I have no idea, really, but I feel fairly confident that the people behind the Ramtha cult and behind this movie are spiritual/financial con artists and charlatans.<hr></blockquote> Exactly. No one is denying anyone's right to *enjoy* the film. When someone addresses certain facts about a film (that it is tied to Ramtha, that one scientist is angry that his interview was distorted to make him say things he didn't mean to), that doesn't mean they are calling you and idiot for enjoying it. I'm not denying that the film might open some minds, or might facilitate someone's investigation into consciousness and quantum physics. I hated the DaVinci Code, for instance, but it turned a lot of people on to the possibility that mainstream history is often fiction. But this thread began with a few people chiming in to offer up some background about the film, in response to a glowing review. That is *not* an attack. Reacting as if it is, and feeling wounded, doesn't further the conversation. I always welcome background information, even if it sheds a negative light on something I'm attached to.

by **anon** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:31 pm

From Cultnews.com March 15, 2005 :: RFK Jr. praises “cult” for its “good values,” but bashes Bush as borderline fascist CultNews would like to follow-up on the previous story about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) lecture at the “cult” compound of a controversial New Age guru in Yelm, Washington. Last week JFK’s nephew dropped in at the “Ramtha School of Enlightenment” run by J.Z. Knight, where he addressed over 1,000 of her devoted followers (called “Ramsters” by residents of Yelm) literally camped out in the group’s “Great Hall.” The school is largely based upon the rather bizarre belief that Knight can channel a 35,000-year-old spirit from the lost continent of Atlantis named “Ramtha.” Kennedy appeared unfazed by questions raised about the lecture venue. “Someone who doesn't like you very much told me I was speaking at a cult," Kennedy joked to his audience of Ramtha devotees reported The Olympian. The Ramsters responded with laughter. Needless to say cult members rarely acknowledge the reality of their circumstances and RFK did little to dissuade them. Instead, he was so focused on attacking President Bush, that he barely seemed to notice his surroundings. Kennedy compared his appearance at the “cult” compound to a Bush speech given at another school infamous for racism. “I guess it would be OK if I spoke at Bob Jones University," he said. But two wrongs don’t make a right and someone as supposedly sophisticated, as Kennedy should know that. Based upon his strained rationalization maybe those opposed to Mr. Kennedy’s environmental policies should say, “Well, don’t other countries have polluted waters, what’s wrong with dumping a little toxic waste here”? RFK Jr. not only lent his name to the “cult,” but dined with its mistress within her palatial French Chateau. "(Kennedy) is a golden boy from a golden family,” Ms. Knight told the press, keenly aware of the promotional value that his appearance offered her school. “I was really excited, because I just really wanted to see this place…You're good people with good values, and all the values this country is supposed to stand for," RFK Jr. gushed. “Values”? Who’s “channeling” what now? The Ramtha School is essentially run like a dictatorship. And its authoritarian ruler J.Z. Knight has been accused of making “homophobic comments," and exploiting her followers. Would these be the "good values" RFK Jr. means to extoll? Interestingly, at his lecture Kennedy derided George W. Bush by comparing him to Hitler and claimed that his governance “borders on fascism.” Well, at least President Bush was elected, unlike Ms. Knight who seems to have more in common with a fascist regime than the White House. But never mind the facts. This Kennedy seems to have little of his father’s common sense, let alone the historical insights of his uncle JFK. [Posted by Rick Ross at 01:54 PM]<a href="http:// ... «BobbyKennedyJr.tobashBushat"cult"compound|Main|KabbalahCentreenergydrinkbankingmoreonbuzzfromcelebritiesthancaff"> ... « Bobby Kennedy Jr. to bash Bush at "cult" compound | Main | Kabbalah Centre energy drink banking more on buzz from celebrities than caff</a>

by **smiths** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:38 am

i mean, what if what is why and who is how? human reminds me of a favourite little ditty by kipling i believe i have seven honest serving men who taught me all i knew there name are what and why and where and how and when and who (if i have slightly butchered this quote apologies to kiplings ghost) (and for the sake of being ridiculously pedantic they could equally be seven honest serving women) ha ha

"What the Bleep Do We Know?"

Wha?????

about sums it up.

Re: Wha?????

Bleep/Ramtha/RFK

what

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