Alright which one of you wrote Madsen? Locked threads at DU

by **seemslikeadream** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:17 pm

mongo (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 01:40 PM Original message Would the mods please comment on this? ALERT: WMR readers should be aware that web sites like Democratic Underground are "locking" information on the radio jamming in Louisiana and the corruption involved in FEMA hurricane disaster preparedness (IEM Team contract). Readers should also be aware that the Pentagon's technology blockade strategy extends to the Internet. Web sites like Democratic Underground and Daily Kos have a lot of explaining to do when they censor critical information during a national emergency. These web sites, along with Fox News and the other news sources with overt and covert political agendas, are not serving in the public interest and should be avoided as sources for important information - WM <a href="http://www.waynemadsenreport.com">www.waynemadsenreport.com</a> / Since I found this through DU - I don't really believe it, although I have seen some threads being locked for being unsubstantiated reports. MelissaB (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #9 12. I read a lot of Madsen around election time. A little truth+a litte fiction makes a gread read. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top RBHam (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #12 25. they steal elections, start wars, manufacture terror.... and you have a problem with a left wing fact finder. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top MelissaB (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #25 31. His stories never panned out. I read a lot of his stuff and it always kept me hanging. Like I said, some truth + some fiction to make it interesting. Let me know what you think about his writing 6 months from now when none of his "leads" work out. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top GloriaSmith (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 01:55 PM Response to Original message 4. here's an unlocked thread on the subject: <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...">www.democraticunderground...oard.ph...</a> Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top johnaries (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 01:56 PM Response to Original message 5. There's 2 unlocked threads going on right now. Just scroll down a little. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Roy (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 01:56 PM Response to Original message 6. Isn't there an ask the Admin forum on here for ??? like this? Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top mongo (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #6 7. I was just looking for a more public comment Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top seito (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #6 8. Not anymore Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top havocmom (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 01:59 PM Response to Original message 10. Have seen questionable locking, baiting by a mod and had one of my posts deleted when I responded to a post that the thread would probably be locked. My offensive post? Along the lines of: thanks for the heads up. gives me a clue as to who is on duty. Hey, delete this too Yep, he did. Like wow what a surprise NOT. We need tp have thick skins around here as sometimes a post is more confusing than the spoken word. But if we should have thicker skins, so should the mods, especially when they use their magic buttons in a manner which is less than judicious. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top mzmolly (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #10 13. Indeed we have. And, I'm notifying Skinner or Elad when I see it. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #10 15. that's uncalled for. They are busting their butts right now, so why don't you cut them a bit of slack and praise them for the good job they are doing taking care of the trolls and distruptors instead of accusing them of being heavy handed? Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Lars39 (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #15 20. No. There's one mod in particular who is abusing his position, imo. And it is not the first time. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #20 24. Send a letter to the admins with your concerns. They shouldn't be posted in a thread. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Lars39 (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #24 27. I did and encouraged others to do so also. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top mzmolly (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:00 PM Response to Original message 11. We have some moles for mods perhaps? I don't get why some threads are locked and disapearing completely. I posted a thread where a woman from the UK said the US was guilty of economic cleansing and POOF, it's gone? This is not like DU. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top xultar (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #11 14. . Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Cleita (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #11 17. It's happened before. They usually are eventually taken care of. n/t Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Eloriel (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #11 18. check your pm Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top JimmyJazz (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #11 21. I don't think so. It has happened in the past, but since the mods don't act unilaterally, it's unlikely that a moderator who is a mole could do much, if any, damage. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Sydnie (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #11 22. It's possible ... there have been mole mods before. I don't know which threads they are talking about here, just responding to the mole mod question. Not sure which threads or which mods this thread is concerning though. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Henny Penny (604 posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #11 23. could be.... I read that thread btw.... Fiona Wilson was her name. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top mongo (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #11 28. I saw an old article about FEMA being the most powerful agnecy in the goverment being deleted - strange. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Writer (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message 16. I'm sorry, but when did DU become a broadcast station? The modicum of serving the public "interest, good, and necessity" is preserved for BROADCAST STATIONS whose licenses come from the FCC. Sorry... that a partisan Internet bulletin board cite somehow falls under FCC jurisdiction is crap. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top titoresque (591 posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:05 PM Response to Original message 19. YES, yesterday I was locked 3 times after re-posting another DUers post about Fort Chaffee and the fact that evacuees are being held there.......which has been deemed a toxic waste dump! They continually locked the thread..............why? Seems strange to me......we have made calls and have CONFIRMED THE INFO! So this is NOT speculation....this is happening! I was so pissed yesterday I thought seriously of never posting here again........I thought this was a place for INFORMATION, and EXCHANGE of ideas! Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top Henny Penny (604 posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #19 30. Try not to get pissed.... if we have a mole, they probably want to piss off as many good posters as possible. Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top TheGoldenRule (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:07 PM Response to Original message 26. Interesting how every website such as Madsens is disinfo... meanwhile we get lied to morning noon and night by the likes of Faux news! I will NEVER put my trust in the Corporate Media again. And if DUers have learned anything after spending any time here, they would do the same. Gotta admit I'm disappointed by what's happening here.... Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top G_j (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:09 PM Response to Original message 29. 10-9-8-7......... Alert Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top titoresque (591 posts) Sun Sep-04-05 02:12 PM Response to Reply #29 32. yeah really! well I KNOW if I repost the same info I posted yesterday...........poof, this thread will be locked again! It's bullshit.........JUST try to organize on this site I DARE YOU....see what happens! We are welcome to speculate and bitch and moan and rant.......but just try to organize! -------

by **DrDebugDU** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:22 pm

So it doesn't surprise me one bit that somebody complained at Wayne. I just spend 2 hours recovering the LIHOP stuff which TheMagistrate trashed. That was hard work trying to salvage the data. Anyway this stuff probably gets me banned, but somehow I don't mind it anymore. The data is safe despite deleting the posts (yes deleting - not locking)!

by **seemslikeadream** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:29 pm

Look at this post of mine that was deleted yesterday, strange very strange. This is the original post from last year, that I reposted. <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1307941">www.democraticunderground...id=1307941</a> and someone was trying to post something about victims being sent to a "concentration" camp but it was deleted and I didn't get a chance to save the links there were 3 of them, you didn't happen to catch that did you? Did you see what EarleG kinda had to do because of The Mag <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4630068">www.democraticunderground...04x4630068</a>

by **DrDebugDU** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:33 pm

Yes I've seen at the links are back. Nevertheless I am making a full copy of the original document plus sub documents at <a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm9">p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm9</a> Did they delete the Haiti coup? Hmm. I have to make a copy of that as well <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">

by **Watchful Citizen** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:40 pm

...in the same way that msm lies are driving people to the internet in the first place. <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2059074">www.democraticunderground...32x2059074</a> This locked DU thread refers to the RI website for more information on New Orleans, drugs, and Kellog Brown Root. I just posted the locked article here at this site for some cross-pollenization. I'm sure DU has spooks and operatives as moles in the mods if it isn't really a Skinner Box to begin with like the rest of the internet. It only makes sense. But as Rigorous Intuition becomes the Group W bench (Alice's Restaraunt reference) for frustrated and banned DU-ers it will become easier for DARPA to monitor the hardcore truth-tellers who know the fascist scam when they go to other websites to warn others. This is a very elite website with some deep deep truths many can't even comprehend, nevermind spread. The trick is to figure out how to spread info faster than The Powers That Be adapt to it as they see it coming on the internet at websites like DU and here. And I think the answer is to debunk the Big Lie of the 'just war' (the flag being carried by General Clark) and expose the US connection to the Nazi war machine since WWII is used to justify all subsequent US atrocities. Despite electronic voting, this would keep Americans from supporting permanent war with their own children in uniform.

by **proldic** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:43 pm

Is Madsen entirely credible here? "...Bodies are stacked up like cordwood around the Superdome..." "...the carnivorous marine life that now swims through the streets of New Orleans and Southeast Louisiana..." Reminds me of Randall Robinson talking about cannabilism.

by **dbeach** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 4:59 pm

DU won't let me acess my posts Madsen is in the eyes of the beholder like any alternate souce..BUT THE MM Is complete govt ordered PROPAGANDA 24/7 and ya all know it!! We need to build this forum and encourage DUers to come here..I have referred dozens and some are here. SLAD sent me here in springtime..Nice forum we got going..we are still getting to know each other..one more coment is DU is full of moles..parasite worms is more accurate . BUT DU is not alone EVERY forum is compromiesd and attended to by the secret illegal govt..

by **Watchful Citizen** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:13 pm

While I'm a little wary of falling into the COINTELPRO effect of sowing distrust within a group, the problem of information being deleted at DU and topics being banned requires identifying who is responsible. Of course, they will be looking here to see what we say about them and plan accordingly. The Magistrate is definitely a 'thought cop' and I know others who've had trouble with him. The General Wesley Clark's campaign is a prime example of MindWar in the blogosphere which first took off during the NATO bombing of Kosovo in 1999. Some Clarkies are the most vicious because I suspect they are Pentagon or CIA professionals carving out a candidacy in the internet. Other political chat boards had the same influx of ruthless Clarkies who take no prisoners and might be aided by personality profiling in goading people into flame fests to get them banned. I figured out that Vietnam Syndrome II is being suppressed by General Wesley Clark who hides war crimes and perpetuates the 'freedom on the march' meme with mild finger-wagging at the neocons for LOSING. Clark appeared alongside Richard Perle at a Central Asian Media forum to assure that part of the world that the US in Iraq wasn't Vietnam and the US would successfully exploit the oil in the Caspian Sea region so sign on with Uncle Sam.. Shortly afterwards was the House Armed Services Committee hearings where Clark and Perle were portrayed as antagonists and this domestic theater was touted loudly all over DU by Clarkies. Total damn theater to feed the Good Cop Bad Cop scam for 2008 presidential campaigns... I was beseiged and slandered as a freeper by 'pro-Clark' DU-ers who I still see helping him to infiltrate the Dems and promote war "as a last resort." They are a very small group- FrenchieCat Totally Committed Sparkly Clark2008 Tom Rinaldo I found some of them at Chat for Clark planning attacks on DU-ers who criticise Clark. The keyword search function at DU allows them to find any of their critics to get them banned by (probably) mole mods and prevent the spreading of Smedley Butler's essential essay 'War is a Racket.' After I posted a Mike Ruppert article about Clark as a plant, a mod wrote me that Ruppert and Madsen were crazies. Then I was banned. I still insist that DU should not be left to the hostile take over. Keep posting the truth there because everything that gets through could save us...maybe.

by **dbeach** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:24 pm

as a former clarkie I AGREE I had big problem there at his forum with 9/11 stuff he is another insider and a rhoodes scholar like his back stabbin pals clintons..all a charade..

by **Seventhson** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:32 pm

who is really a freeper mole . Which of course I am not. They went to serious lengths to "get" me there and generally i always obeyed the rules. I would not stoop most of the time to their bate. never even had a "time out". I was warned once or twice in two years when my posts were deleted, but - again, usually it was a tag team of freeper types posing as kinda informed "moderates. The thing I posted taken from madsen had to do with Male Haitians at Guantanamo (around the time that Clark was in charge of the Southern Command and troops at Fort Hood who were on assignment at Guantanamo) developing breasts which some advocates believed was related top possible pesticide ort other chemical exposure there used by the troops guarding them (this was quite a long time ago). Madsen said that Clarke was responsible for it and I believed him. Subsequent research showed that nadsen's report could not be verified, although there was a human rights group in Miami working on the pesticide exposure angle0 --- but the dates really did not fir for Clark (excapet that some men under his command at Fort Hood may have been at Guantanamo at that time). Anyway, any time I posted ANYTHING remotely controversial these clarkies whould jump on me with : "there's seventhson again with his stories of man-titties, teeheeteeheeteehee. Whatta stupe!" Anyway, I had relied on Madsen whom I have come to believe is NOT completely reliable - especially since NOTHING I could find verified his story and he gave no solid sources for it. Anyway, we all know the Stephens Group (arkansas mafia) links the Bushes, the Clintons, the Bin Ladens, the Club for Growth, and is probably one of the key links for Iran-cocaine-contra-weapons and bank fraud involving Clintons, Bushes and Bin Ladens and the Saudi royas. Clark was working for Stephens group lobbying the Pentagon for Homeland security contracts when Dean jumped into the race as a serious challenger to Kerry and Clark "decided" to become a Democrat after backing Bush in the past. Will Pitt is the biggest pro-Skull and Boineser Kerry supporter at DU as well and my battles all seemed to revolve aropund the Stephens group, clark ties and the Kerry skull and bones blood soaked Bush order of Fourth Reichists, which Pitt continues to trumpet. I loved DU and would still if they were not so poorly managed and so bad for America by killing the heart oif the true left. I still wish I had not been banned and could go back.

by **Al Gomas** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:33 pm

Wow, I thought it was just me with the knife in his back but I see the problem goes much deeper. I post this here, even though you already know my story, because other DUers may read this and start asking some hard questions of their mods.

by **Watchful Citizen** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:49 pm

and had posted it when a mod showed up and hinted that seventhson had posted the same thing. Being branded as "like seventhson" is now a code word at DU for "freeper" and is a pre-cursor to getting banned, I'm sorry to confirm to you. So I accidentally followed in your footsteps into a tiger pit at DU while trying to chase General Clark out of the Dem party. I saw that you had criticism of Clark back when he first declared during the infamous 'primary wars' that annoyed the mods so criticising Clark is a way to get on the mods radar as a potential 'problem.' ISN'T THAT EXACTLY WHY HE'S RUNNING? DIVIDE DIVIDE DIVIDE CONQUER CONQUER What better way to further divide the Dem party with schizophrenia than to introduce a professional warrrior 'who can win' to an anti-war movement afraid of losing? But Madsen is right about so many things that I consider him not to be ignored.

by **nashvillebrook** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:06 pm

all that "sir" bullshit. omg. what a pompus ass. i left some posts RE this crap on the "sorry Eloiel, reposting" thread, and also in other places where people were trolling for madsen info. i'm so freaking tired of this crap. people need to open their eyes.

by **seemslikeadream** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:14 pm

It's interesting my post about Haiti was deleted also. The one thing about Madsen is he was picked by McKinney's 9/11 Committee to be one of the three questioners in the incredible hearing. You'd think McKinney's group would be careful who they associate with.

by **DrDebugDU** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:29 pm

Madsen is an good investigator. The problem is that he sometimes take some unverified turns and that means that he tends to be invalidated for minor points even though the majority of his investigation is good. Seems wrote: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> and someone was trying to post something about victims being sent to a "concentration" camp but it was deleted and I didn't get a chance to save the links there were 3 of them, you didn't happen to catch that did you? <hr></blockquote> I think I have a copy of that story: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Witness account Bison William I was told to leave or be arrested I live in Fort Smith Arkansas and 360 people from NO have been shipped to an old army base outside our town. The problem is the base barracks they have put the people in is listed as a toxic waste dump. The barracks are so inundated with lead paint that the people that have to get around them wear masks so they don't have to breathe the fumes coming off them. There is no air conditioning and it is 95 degrees at this time of year. I am afraid some of the older people will die of stroke from the heat. This morning I went out and snuck into the area where they are being kept and told many of the people that the buildings were poisonous and got many of them to promise to leave as quick as they could before I was told to leave or be arrested for inciting a riot.. When I say the building are poisonous you must believe me. They have been trying for years to find a way to destroy them but the EPA won't let them do it..If they burn them it will release lead into the air and it will settle in the lakes and streams around the area. They can't tear them down and send them to other places because no one wants poisonous wood..They ground around them is even poisonous from the lead wash off when it rains. So what does our Illustrious Repug Governor do,.. well he puts NO refuges in them... Ain't that america baby.. <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4608754&mesg_id=4608754">www.democraticunderground...id=4608754</a> tsuki (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-03-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #6 23. Found this: The Fort Chaffee Redevelopment Authority (FCRA) was established to develop a set of recommendations for reutilization and development of the remaining property, including removal or disposal of more than 600 World War II-era temporary wood frame buildings comprising about 2 million square feet of floor space. A number of unique characteristics of the property make redevelopment a costly endeavor. Fort Chaffee has over 700 buildings that must be demolished in order to encourage development. The buildings date from the World War II era and contain a significant amount of asbestos and lead. This hazardous material must be removed before the buildings can be demolished. The projected cost of the entire project is $22 million. And because the lead and asbestos do not pose an immediate threat to the safety of the community (and will not until the buildings come down), the Fort Chaffee Public Trust has been unsuccessful in finding federal funds through the EPA to help with this effort. Other infrastructure needs that must be addressed before the property is ready for reuse total another $10.6 million. <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/fort-chaffee.htm">www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/fort-chaffee.htm</a> undergroundrailroad (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-03-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #5 25. Here is more reference to the infected blankets: On 24 June 1763,] the commander of Fort Pitt gave representatives of the besieging Delawares two blankets that had been exposed to smallpox, in hopes of spreading the disease to the Indians in order to end the siege. Indians in the area contracted smallpox. It is impossible to verify how many people (if any) contracted the disease as a result of the Fort Pitt incident; the disease was already in the area and may have reached the Indians through other vectors. Even before the blankets had been handed over, the disease may have been spread to the Indians by native warriors returning from attacks on infected white settlements. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_American_indigenous_peoples#Deliberate_infection.3F">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_American_indigenous_peoples#Deliberate_infection.3F</a> in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Sat Sep-03-05 06:45 PM Response to Original message 27. American Concentration Camps, aka, Relocation centers Fort Chaffee on list Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 06:46 PM by in_cog_ni_to I know nothing about this site, but Fort Chaffee is on their list. ARKANSAS Berryville FEMA facility - east of Eureka on Hwy 62. Blytheville AFB - was closed; now a camp. Newly constructed wooden barracks surrounded by high barbed wire-topped fencing and guard towers. Ft. Chaffee - has new aircraft runway and detention facility for 20,000 prisoners. Jerome, Chicot/Drew Counties - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention facility. Omaha FEMA facility - on Hwy 65, south of old wood processing plant, on a dirt road that leads to a toxic waste dump. Rohwer, Descha County - Renovated WWII Japanese-American Special Internment detention center. <a href="http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/known_relocation_centers.htm">www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/known_relocation_centers.htm</a> <hr></blockquote> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/4/05 4:45 pm

Alright which one of you wrote Madsen? Locked threads at DU

Alright which one of you wrote Madsen? Locked threads at DU

It's even worse. A number of threads have been deleted

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More DUers will be coming to this site with 'lock fatigue.'

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We need our own list of mods and DU-ers who squelch info.

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Interesting, citing Madsen helped get me banned as a CT loon

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Bingo. I found a reference to the Haitian "man-tittie&q

the magistrate! i have complained about him in the past

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