Bush orders Fitzgerald fired espionage indictments quash

[dbeach]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/CiaPlameCaseIndictments.htm">www.tomflocco.com/fs/CiaP...tments.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Bush orders Fitzgerald fired and espionage indictments quashed<br><br>by Tom Flocco<br><br>Washington, DC—October 21, 2005—12:00 EST—TomFlocco.com exclusive—Today Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald handed over 22 indictments to Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, accusing President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard Cheney and others of espionage, obstruction of justice, perjury and a variety of other charges in the matter of the CIA/Valerie Plame leak-gate case.<br><br><br><br> <br>According to intelligence sources who spoke with federal whistleblowers Thomas Heneghan and Stewart Webb, Bush then ordered Gonzalez to fire Fitzgerald and have the indictments quashed and sealed.<br><br>Gonzalez refused to release the indictments which have been handed down by the grand jury and ordered served by a judge, subjecting the Attorney General to additional charges of obstruction of justice, the sources said.<br><br>The indictments confirm our original “Bush-Cheney indicted” report on August 2, 2005.<br><br>Gonzalez was Bush’s former personal White House counsel before receiving a presidential appointment as U.S. Attorney General."<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

that someone has zero credibility, but I will say that about Flocco now. <br><br>His sources these days seem to be Skolnick, Heneghan and Webb, and they all strike me as self-deceived fabulists.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

maybe? they are liars...<br><br>MAYBE once and for all then we can collectively expose their lies and stop paying any attention..<br><br>I know that the MM is gonna cover for bush at all costs and the bush criminals are capable of EVRY sisnsiter plot imaginable.. <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

Melodramatic self-deceived fabulists. I never trust melodrama or hysteria.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[robertdreed]

A few points about the Mainstream Media.<br><br>They don't act as a unified, concerted conspiracy. <br><br>Their audience includes a lot of government, intelligence and law enforcement worker bees, basically honest folk who have to be at least mollified about having some of their concerns publically addressed. <br><br>The mainstream media can do things like overlooking- or pretending to overlook- researchers like Daniel Hopsicker, Dave Emory, and John Judge, but they can't sweep a massively huge story under the rug once it's reached a certain level of notice. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 10/21/05 6:15 pm<br></i>

[bamabecky]

I went over there and read the flocco article. I'm wondering if this article isn't a trick on us. They are so upset about the indictments. Think they may have set a little trap for us, to see if we would bite and then go spread it around? Ray McGovern said something in his last missive about firing Fitz, but why waite till now to fire Fitz....when you have the whole world waiting with baited breath for the release of the Indictments? I think they are trying to trap us with this one, and everything else he has put out lately.....<br><br>Wonder if Tom is ok? Wonder if they took over his site?<br>Bama <p>Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.</p><i></i>

[Col Quisp]

Happy anniversary to you dbeach! (belated)<br><br>It was my understanding that Fitzgerald cannot be fired as special prosecutor due to the convoluted state of the law. <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

Bush cannot fire Fitz according to CS.<br><br>I will stay with CS on this.<br><br>Bama asks a good question..Is Flocco being forced to put out this stuff??<br><br>The indictment story of 8/2/05 is almost a reality and Flocco puts out this article with the Tom H. spin.<br><br>Ray Mac is hinting today bush CAN fire Fitzgerlad and now<br> Mr. Flocco is saying NOT that Fitz is fired BUT that bush ordered Gonni to fire Fitzgerlad<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/27128">www.alternet.org/waroniraq/27128</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Unless Bush fires prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald -- a distinct possibility -- we are likely to see senior administration officials led out of the White House to be booked for the Plame affair. Tools<br> <br><br> <br>Indictments are expected to come down shortly as special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald completes the investigation originally precipitated by the outing of a C.I.A. officer under deep cover. In 21-plus months of digging and interviewing, Fitzpatrick and his able staff have been able to negotiate the intelligence/policy/politics labyrinth with considerable sophistication. In the process, they seem to have learned considerably more than they had bargained for. The investigation has long since morphed into size "extra-large," which is the only size commensurate with the wrongdoing uncovered -- not least, the fabrication and peddling of intelligence to "justify" a war of aggression.<br><br>The coming months are likely to see senior Bush administration officials frog-marched out of the White House to be booked, unless the president moves swiftly to fire Fitzgerald -- a distinct possibility. With so many forces at play, it is easy to lose perspective and context while plowing through the tons of information on this case. What follows is a retrospective and prospective, laced with some new facts and analysis aimed at helping us to focus on the forest once we have given due attention to the trees."<br>"<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Fearless]

CS says Fitz cannot be fired.<br><br>` <p></p><i></i>

[OnoI812]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>His sources these days seem to be Skolnick, Heneghan and Webb, and they all strike me as self-deceived fabulists.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Thats an interesting way of putting it..<br>but I don't think it's so much self deceived<br><br>I do think they really believe what they're saying.<br><br>but they quite likely may be being decieved from someone feeding them these wild accusations and documents and thus a tool for someones agenda.<br><br>the last Flocco interview I listened too over a month ago...Tom has put blind faith In these documents and "secret sources" Heneghan and Webb keep shoving his direction.<br><br>seems very risky and foolhardy to me.<br><br>btw- Heneghan has recently said that this first round of over 20 indictments is just the DC GJ, he went on to say that the Chicago GJ is handling many more to come at a later date and those include the Clinton gang , Rahm Emmanuel and other dems as this thing widens.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[BlueCherub]

Why is most everyone on this thread dismissing the Flocco info out of hand? I thought this was a place we could discuss the really "out there" or "tinfoil" topics...?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[dbeach]

how all the various plots interweave layers of greed and veils of secrecy as they plie on after the crimes are commiited and to loot wall st. small players and of course the US Treasury.<br><br>I lost $ 50,000 bewteen 2/00 and 6/02 <br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD/07-30-04/discussion.cgi.31.html">www.apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD...gi.31.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br><br>"No Arabs are involved. Israelie/Zionazi "Jews" commandos move around using forged or stolen Arab ID's and--if necessary--they wear masks to hide their real identities, such as in beheading videos. <br><br>Israelies/Terrorist Zionist "Jews" continue to fake whatever it takes to prove that the "war on terror/War on Coomon Sense," i.e. the war on Arabs/Muslims has to continue. <br><br>Listen to them more carefully, folks. The Zionists in our midst have been telling us the truth all along. Just replace "Arab" with "Israelie," replace "Al-Quida" with "Mossad," .<br><br>By Ciro Scotti - At a Massachusetts political rally, Michael Moore leveled some well-deserved zingers at the media, while ducking a key question. The film goes on about filial revenge and oil, but it never ventures onto really touchy turf -- namely the role of fiercely pro-Zionist Jews "Israel" neocon hawks in convincing the Pathetic Moron Bush to go to war. The elephantine Mr. Moore conveniently fails to mention that other pachyderm in the Democratic room. Why didn't Fahrenheit go there, Mr. Moore? <br>Rahm Emmanuel, former Clinton adviser, current congressman from Illinois, staunch supporter of Israel, and suspected by many of being "Mega", the Mossad mole in the Clinton White House, has a brother, Ari Emmanuel, who just happens to be Michael Moore's agent. Maybe a few of you would write Mr. Scotti at ciro_scotti@businessweek.com and let him know about this compromising connection. Also mention the Questions for Michael Moore. <br><br>An Issue Too Hot for Fahrenheit?"<br> <p></p><i></i>

[Rigorous Intuition]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>...dismissing the Flocco info out of hand?"</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I don't think it could be described as out of hand. I used to give Flocco credit, but in recent months he's discredited himself. The last straw for me was his "dead Barbara Olson arrested on the non-existant Polish-Austrian border" story. Anybody seen a follow-up on that one? <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"I thought this was a place we could discuss the really "out there" or "tinfoil" topics...?"</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Sure it is, and we are. Discussion doesn't mean suspension of critical faculties, groupthink, and swallowing every breathless rumour. We need to show some discernment. And if any "exclusive" from Skolnick, Webb and Flocco prove true I promise to eat my tinfoil hat. <br><br>Just trying to apply some rigour to my intuition here. <p></p><i></i>

[ewastud]

Heneghan appears to me possibly be an escapee from a mental hospital. I don't htink we can take any report from that website with anything but an enormous grain of salt, one way or another. <p></p><i></i>

[Prac]

Sorry Jeff<br><br>It seems that some categories of high wierdness are OK here... but others are not.<br><br>And BTW some of Flocco's, Skolnick's, Hennigan's high wierdness has turned out pretty much on the money.<br><br>Put on your coloured glesses... and suspend judgment... please.<br><br><br> <p>What's done in this world is what's paid for...<br>...Who's had the Money</p><i></i>