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About what's welcome here and what is not:

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:11 pm

From the posting guidelines:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Beyond trolling and disruption, posts subject to deletion or locking will be those which<br><br>1. advocate violence, or<br><br>2. espouse hatred for a people based upon their race, religion, gender or sexuality, or<br><br>3. suggest a poster is a purposefully spreading disinformation. If you have suspicions, IM me.<br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I want to be clear about this: that includes espousing <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Jewish</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> conspiracy theory, even with a Makow- and Icke-like semantic sidestep such as Jews <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>aren't really</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Jews.<br><br>In a couple of weeks I need to pay ezboard about $300 for another six months of this. I'm not paying to provide a forum for the dissemination of ignorance and hatred by neo-Nazis, "third-way"-fascists, racists and anti-semites.<br><br>Be advised I'll be taking a hardline on this, and I won't be drawn into argument on it. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 1/18/06 3:15 pm<br></i>
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Re: About what's welcome here and what is not:

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:24 pm

Jeff,<br>My post was the last before you moved and locked the thread.<br>It was about a specific individual who has done illegal things to me. It was NOT about groups. It is also backed by hard evidence.<br><br>If you are taking ANY heat I will shut up.<br>I lost my own two daughters eleven years ago when they were three and five, and I have NO WISH for such a fate to befall others.<br><br>Other than that, I ask that same question.<br><br>Am I a Fascist because I was so inconsiderate as to become a victim of a Jewish banker?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: About what's welcome here and what is not:

Postby professorpan » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:34 pm

Thanks, Jeff. I was starting to stop by much less frequently because of the anti-Semitic crap. If I wanted to read that, Rense is a click away.<br><br>Antiaristo -- if you said you were the victim of a "banker" I'd listen. But when you say a "Jewish banker" you're implying that the "Jewish" part has something to do with it. <br><br>That's the issue. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby ir » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:47 pm

Without wanting to start this fire again, and not knowing who you are,-<br>Much of my wrestling bruises on this board came from a personal experience, with what I now term the "Jewish Mafia". I am Jewish and ISraeli, as you know, and once there are mafias involved, they do not disciminate, for better and worse, victims are those who become accessible, and sometimes those in proximity are more vulnerable. For a while I was just going around becoming paranoid about Jews ! I had the "privilege" of understanding how some people would get the feeling of a "world dominating cabal", because wherever I went, sometimes real many times imaginary Jews popped up to silence me, in defense of the powerful and rich ones who persecuted me. <br>There is a temptation at that stage to really look for a methodical explanation, but this is the pit. Its nothing to do with the religion or the ethnicity, its just mafia that tapps into those resources. Namely, if i were a Jewish rich mafioso who can bribe some people in the Israeli "right places" I could easily get an entire apparatus to work for my selfish interests, because such is the structure of certain Israeli organizations, and so forth. These people are also hoping you will turn the issue into an ethnic, religious or political one, which allows them to go on. Once you do that, they won, because you prove yourself a bigot, not worth of assistance. Its a test, so to speak, and not an easy one.<br>You don't want to become a bigot just because a jerk provokes you, cause isn't that what this board is all about ? realizing that we are in such times in history that we are being provoked and pushed to the wall, IN ORDER TO MAKE us lose our humanity. Each in her or his own community. I read Jeff's recent post on the Hamlin and Fort Bragg situations. Isn't it people being pushed to the edge to make them into monsters ? the programming, the violence, the drugs, the pressure on innocent people..until they flip and shoot their wife ? or, implicate themselves in something they never did ? or the 911, Katrina ? lots of stuff happening just to get people to be swayed in primal aggression without looking at who is in front of them. <br>-------<br>The Jewish banker is mafia ? treat it that way. The fact that he is Jewish is immaterial except if you fall into that category which is what he will want you to do. Its mafia, and do not always expect to win against mafia. Conventional wisdom suggests that it is quite a miracle to score victories in such cases, but you can rescue your life, or limit the damage and move to articulate your mishap in such words and phrases that will engage help against that individual. I don't know enough about your country and all those names mean nothing to me, I take your word that this person exists and is evil. <br><br>I am facing similar emotional challenge re my own country, Israel, which government ran over me a few times to make sure nothing is left of me. I am making an effort to draw distinctions among people, without losing sight of reality, namely, that under certain conditions, most fellow citizens will cooperate with government abuses- so one has to be watchful, realistic and careful, but not hate abstract entities, whole nations, whole ethnicities. These are hard times. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: About what's welcome here and what is not:

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:49 pm

Prof,<br>My message was addressed to somebody else, you know.<br><br>And you obviously have not been doing your homework, which is pretty naughty for one who claims such an exalted position from which to pronounce.<br><br>There IS an evidence trail available.<br><br>You've been pretty evident by your absence when I DID say I was the victim of a "banker". So why should I believe you? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: About what's welcome here and what is not:

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:56 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Am I a Fascist because I was so inconsiderate as to become a victim of a Jewish banker?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>No. Fascism is a corporatist model of governance that is not necessarily defined by scapegoating Jews. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: antiar

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:06 pm

IR,<br>I read many of your posts here, and I know you are sincere.<br>But I also think you are naive.<br>The point is I simply CANNOT rescue my life.<br>If you'd read the correspondence you'd know that.<br><br>That's what annoys me.<br>It's all there and available.<br>But the silence from our esteemed posters is palpable.<br><br>What comments I've had have been diminishing - "writing to Debretts" comes to mind.<br><br>UNTIL I MENTIONED HOLLICK'S ETHNICITY.<br><br>THEN I get a response.<br><br>"That's got nothing to do with it. You're a bigot"<br><br>HOW do they know?<br>When there is evidence to the contrary freely available in Data Dump.<br><br>And also please bear in mind that this specific man plans to do it all again.<br>In alliance with Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, for God's sake.<br><br>Look for youself<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showAddReplyScreenFromWeb?topicID=2221.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...2221.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Then tell me who's acting in bad faith here. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=antiaristo>antiaristo</A> at: 1/18/06 5:08 pm<br></i>
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Postby robertdreed » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:56 pm

I read your comment directed toward me in the now-locked Makow thread. I don't know what you're talking about. My previous comment on that page wasn't addressed toward you. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby ir » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:40 am

I am being called naive twice the same day in two different continents...in two boards in different languages. must be true then.<br><br>Well, to the point. If I wanted to understand your case, i'd ask you to write a concise (as much as you can) paragraphed chronological explanation, the first paragraph being you current, urgent, state of danger/risk.<br>Also, since most of the readers who probably disappoint you are not from UK regions, maybe a brief glossary of names/institutions that you mention, just so that the map becomes visible. <br><br>As for expectation - i had an email exchange over this issue with another rier. Surely, many here are in some trouble, distress, perhaps under attack from similar orgs/perps. We want to be heard, and supported and possibly helped. But frankly, can you define your expectation from a board with mostly anonymous participants ? <br><br>\Last, but not least. i had the same experience as you of "NOT BEING HEARD", and my plight being reconstructed by political interests preconceived ideas of people here. I think some people here might suspect any writer here of being manipulative; others don't want to hear some facts/truths that disturb their agenda, etc.<br>MOstly, I think people are afraid, legitimately from certain repurcussions. Isnt' that what mafia is all about? namely, witnesses to murder becoming deaf dumb and blind for the duration ? <br><br>--<br>The Allure<br>Jeff's blog reminds me of "canada allure" (or the NZ allure), namely of getting a fair, neutral and objective opportunity to state your facts, outside the polarized, and crazy, HEAVILY SPUN/CHARGED reality we are enduring now almost everywhere in the world. However, much as Canada in reality is, the existence of this "space" is doubtful. You can see the forces here, too. This space attracts the same duality and polarity, it is hard to maintain the safe zone, if you want to remain faithful to the truth, too. <br>I felt that physically in Canada as well, which led me to think it will eventually succumb to Bushism, or the other pole (can't define it, "third positioning fascists" that pop up here and I can't define them yet, but no good will they bring, too). <br>--<br>Although I am naive, if there is anything I can do that will help you extricate yourself from danger, let me know. Regretfully, although jewish, i have no influence over those lords of money, as you can see, I cannot extricate even myself from that grip. I was offering in the board to connect dots that exist in Israel/Hebrew data pools. But being on this board made it clear to me I don't have a clue about Brittish Jewish community, lords, ancestry, politics. I dno't know even ONE israeli of Brittish origins. I don't have a "feel" about how they operate, who their friends are in Israel (if at all) etc. I can look around, if anything is on the google here if you are looking for info. Specifically, if you didn't mention it, I wouldn't know there can be Jewish guy called Lord Hollick (the name would fool me as a pure Goy...), but then I didn't know Saatchi as well, before this board. <br>--I looked up stuff on Rothchild here, and it was interesting, same with bronfman and how they cleverly use their money here. you see, it might strike you as odd, but I think *many* Israelis are quite naive, contrary to the image. (naivette with hot headedness can be dangerous though). And I think some of those money lords are fully aware of how the Israelis are like "Indians" for them or simpletons with some cunning, courage, obstinacy that can be used smartly in the big business world. And of course, consider the language barriers, most Israelis can't read newspapers or internet from abroad at all. However, you have a "caste" of multilingual and "cosmopolitan" israelis, like Mossad agents all of whom have at least dual citizenships, who broker between the big business and the local "peasant heads" or "cannon flesh" idiots like myself. So information can be conveniently compartmentalized. <br>---<br>I think in some ways, the USA has a similar division, despite the English. Because most Americans are kept away from non american info, which leaves the field open for a caste of international movers and shakers to do as they will. (the Bushmen are taking full advantage of this compartmentalization, like the Italian/Niger scam happening away, and preventing the regular american from connecting dots). <br>etc. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: antiaristo

Postby Pants Elk » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:47 pm

I've read antiaristo's posts, as long and detailed as they are, and the impression I'm left with is of a man with a deeply personal vendetta which would perhaps be better aired elsewhere than here. <p></p><i></i>
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long posts

Postby rapt » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:57 pm

Pants Elk said, "...better aired elsewhere than here."<br><br>I for one appreciate the exposure to Anti's POV. If a post gets too long and detailed I can skim it or skip it.<br><br>Maybe the details are a bit too exhaustive at times to keep your attention, but we are being treated to a rare insight into Her Majesty's regime and how it operates. How better would you get this info? <p></p><i></i>
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Postby Pants Elk » Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:39 pm

I think his argument has been made, and he has contributed some extremely valuable information.<br><br>Edit: I don't see what anyone here can do to further his cause, nor what reiterating his case can do. I've found the tendency of his to "track back" to his own problem/issues (whatever) in each post he makes a little tiring.<br><br>For my own part, I've posted very little here in this forum, and little of that has been "valuable" or helpful. There is an edge of despair to much of what I read here, and a recent comment asked the pertinent question (more or less) "what can we <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>do</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> that is positive?"<br><br>Jeff is doing a fantastic thing here, but I think it's time for him to give himself a rest, get a dog, and go for plenty of walks in the countryside. There's a lot of evil in the world (and hovering near), and sometimes you can focus too much on it, and ignore the greater context. No matter what the Evil Fuckers get up to, the fabric of the universe (holographic or not) is woven from love, and a beautiful thing.<br><br>With that in mind, I've decide to give RI a rest for a while. I wish Jeff and all of you courage, and the occasional moment of laughter in the face of it all. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=pantselk>Pants Elk</A> at: 1/19/06 12:54 pm<br></i>
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what is welcome here

Postby anon » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:12 pm

Nearly every week emad posts anti catholic material; it goes undisputed. It contributes heavily to to hate and despair often found on this blog. While he gets points for determination, it gets old, week after week after week. <p></p><i></i>
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racism

Postby smiths » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:19 pm

it really is pretty simple, as soon as you attach a word that denotes ethnicity to a statement, name or group its racist, <br>and racism is a declaration of limited intellect,<br>so its not only offensive but it destoys your credibility and leads to retarded diatribes, not much fun for anyone<br><br>dont be lazy, watch yourself so jeff doesnt have to,<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: what is welcome here

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:54 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>it goes undisputed.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Well then, dispute it! <br><br>Seriously, if you see something objectionable, please send me a message. I can't read all the threads, and I need people to alert me when they think a post crosses a line.<br><br>on edit: I don't believe unregistered users have access to the pm function. If that's true, I can also be reached at rigorousintuition@hotmail.com <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 1/19/06 8:57 pm<br></i>
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