Colbert shakes up Bill Kristol over PNAC ties, then Bolton

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Colbert shakes up Bill Kristol over PNAC ties, then Bolton

Postby BannedfromDU » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:13 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Colbert shakes up Bill Kristol over PNAC ties</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Bill Kristol, who is one of the major players in the group called PNAC, joined the set of the "Colbert Report," and I think was taken off guard right at the outset of the show because he had to answer questions that our media never asks. PNAC envisioned America attacking the Middle East since the middle '90's and for some inexplicable reason (that was a joke) the media never questions him or his members which have lined the walls of Bush's cabinet about PNAC and how it influenced our foreign policy, which led us to attack Iraq.<br><br>Colbert immediately called him on it and Kristol was quite embarrassed talking about it.<br><br>Colbert: Speaking of thinking alike, you were a member, or are a member of the New Project for the American Century, correct?<br><br>Kristol: I am.<br><br>Colbert: Were or am, am?<br><br>Kristol: Were and am.<br><br>Colbert: How's that project coming?<br><br>Kristol: well. it's..(stammering)<br><br>Colbert: How's the New American Century, looks good to me?<br><br>Kristol: Ahh--I think...hehe yea--I'm speechless..<br><br>Colbert: Really?<br><br>Kristol: Yea...we've sort of...the Project for the New American Century is just a few people..<br><br>Colbert: Come on, it’s a terrific New American Century, right?<br><br>Kristol: Well I think we do OK.<br><br>Colbert: You Rummy Wolfowitz, Cheney, Pearle, Feith, all you guys right?<br><br>Kristol (responds timidly): Well, we fought back after 9/11..<br>----------<br><br>LINK to video & article-<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/290406Colbert.htm">prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/290406Colbert.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br>===============<br><br><br>The next day, Bolton gets the PNAC grilling!<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.crooksandliars.com/images/JohnBolton.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br>Did the reporter watch "The Colbert Report," before she asked John Bolton these questions? Bolton certainly didn't like it.<br><br>VIDEO Clip- quicktime<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://movies.crooksandliars.com/cnn_lt_bolton_iraq_un_060428b_240x180.mov">movies.crooksandliars.com/cnn_lt_bo...28b_240x180.mov</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br>=<br><br>C&L page<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/">www.crooksandliars.com/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>============================<br><br><br>What I find eqully amazing as the PNAC being brought up, is that Steven Colbert, a comedian, 4 years after the fact, and after the PNAC was a known entity for over 10 years, that he was the FIRST to bring up or address the cabal. The press is complicit in this treason. Even the spineless Dems FAIL to mention the PNAC. Did Kerry mention it? Did Edwards? Kusinich did, Charlie Rangle did. Al Gore did, as very few others...the number of politicians who dare bring up the cabal can be counted on one to two hands.<br><br>Both the press and politicians have been either bought off, complicit, or intimidated into submission. Whatever the reason, they have failed us. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=bannedfromdu>BannedfromDU</A> at: 4/29/06 8:45 pm<br></i>
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Colbert Report

Postby heyjt » Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:38 pm

I saw colbert shred Kristol, it was brilliant.<br>The Daily show and colbert are the cutting-edge out there, and It's hard to believe Neo-cons dare to walk onto the set.<br> I wonder if Bill O'Riley will ever appear on Colbert, who does a near perfect parody of O'Riley.<br> I will look at the Bolton interview also... <p></p><i></i>
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Postby streeb » Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:37 am

I dunno - both of those shows are often hilarious, but they ain't a threat to anybody, least of all Bill Kristol or his pals. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Colbert

Postby albion » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:12 am

Now on Crooks & Liars, "Colbert Does the White House Correspondence dinner" (a portion of it anyway). I thought it was freakin genius, not because I thought it was hilariously funny (mostly it's not), but because he's literally right there in Bush's face. The shots of the mostly non-amused audience reactions are particularly "amusing" - it's actually pretty Andy Kaufman-esque.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Stephen Colbert spoke tonight at the dinner and lampooned pretty much everything he could think of and Helen Thomas. I used the second half of his performance because it included the Generals, Scalia, the Faux press briefing and as E&P reported:<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"As he walked from the podium the president and First Lady gave Colbert quick nods, unsmiling, and left. E&P's Joe Strupp, in the crowd, observed that quite a few felt the material was, perhaps, uncomfortably biting."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> Video-WMP (low res) Video QT (it's a big file)<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.crooksandliars.com/images/WH-Colbert.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/29.html#a8104">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=albion@rigorousintuition>albion</A> at: 4/30/06 2:32 am<br></i>
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Re: Colbert

Postby FranklinCase Admin » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:33 am

First off here's the <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml">link to the Kristol Interview</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->, which definitely displays a bumbling Bill Kristol. <br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.comedycentral.com/images/shows/colbert_report/videos/guest/cr_2055_guest_m1.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>However, I would have to agree with <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Streeb's</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> opinion in regards to Colbert and Stewart. Even though they will talk about the secret societies, elite groups, and conspiracies, it's usually hard to decipher fact from joke unless you already know the truth. If anything Colbert has done a much better job defining the lines between reality and fiction. As a quick side note I was curious if anyone else saw the "Gannon" button on Colbert's press secretary podium during the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Crooks and Liars</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> presentation?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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must disagree

Postby anotherdrew » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:55 am

colbert and the daily show are very much a threat to the bushgang, not because they are going to be movement leaders, but because they set the stage, make and hold a space free for the view that our rulers are shameful imbeciles deserving of less than zero respect, deserving to be mocked as the exposed fakers, the obviously incompetent, inhuman, liers, cheats and swindelers they are. This, in and of itself, isn't going to swing the tide, but it provoides an on-ramp for millions of people who otherwise would see NO ONE with anything bad to say about the naked ape in the white house; and it provides a safe haven for the ever gowing majority of the population that know that SOMETHING very wrong is in the white house; and that it must go. <p></p><i></i>
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in bush's face

Postby anotherdrew » Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:00 am

I'm downloading the correspondents dinner now. Colbert has accomplished something no one else has, which is to put the fragrant monkey tail right in bush's face, in person, for an extended period of time. I hope this was really really fucking unpleasant for little georgie, he deserves public humiliation as a daily event, at least he got this first serving.<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.mininova.org/tor/296239">link</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=anotherdrew>anotherdrew</A> at: 4/30/06 3:04 am<br></i>
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Re: in bush's face

Postby streeb » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:33 pm

Wow - the correspondents dinner is something else. I hadn't seen it when I made my last post, and although it doesn't really change my opinion, it is a magnificent performance, and magnificently uncomfortable. <br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Colbert has accomplished something no one else has, which is to put the fragrant monkey tail right in bush's face, in person, for an extended period of time.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Agreed - it's wonderful, but I think that Georgie is finished, he's outgrown his usefulness, and that's why we get to see him twist in the wind these days. It's certainly gratifying to see the bastard suffer a little, and it was rewarding to see Jon Stewart call Tucker Carlson a dick when he made his Crossfire appearance, but I'm afraid that I think this is all limited hangout stuff. The Daily Show has occasionally made a powerful person squirm - yes - but it also consistently reinforces myths, chief among them that the war has a purpose that isn't criminal. In its own way I'm afraid the Daily Show quietly buys the neocon line. I can't really comment on the Colbert Report as I don't watch it that often. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=streeb>streeb</A> at: 4/30/06 12:49 pm<br></i>
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Re: in bush's face

Postby FranklinCase Admin » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:47 pm

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Anotherdrew</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> I do sincerely hope you're right. I categorically agree with you guys in regards to the Correspondence Dinner, I think Bush was and is maybe regretting inviting Colbert to speak. Godspeed Colbert & Stewart. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: in bush's face

Postby albion » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:09 pm

Looking at the morning-after headlines, most of them focus not on Colbert, but the Bush impersonator that Bush appeared with. Examples: "Double Bush Delights Media"..."Bush lampoons self at press corps event"..."Members of the White House Correspondents' Association were seeing double at their annual dinner Saturday night..." <br><br>I didn't see that, but from the descriptions, it seems more forced and creepy than anything else.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5146872,00.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>I guess it figures, since Colbert stuck it to the media pretty good too. <p></p><i></i>
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the play's the thing...

Postby Moddey Screbbagh » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:23 pm

"The play's the thing<br>Wherein I'll catch the conscience of the King" <br><br>just finished watching the rebroadcast on CSPAN of the correspondent's dinner. can't recommend this highly enough to all here: and try to watch the entire thing, as it's hard to discern from the crooks and liars link how palpable the tension in the room was as colbert landed blow after blow. colbert spoke after a silly set piece with W. himself and a double, where Bush got to play up the down-home silliness that i'm sure rove is telling him to use to get people to like him again. the audience loved it. in contrast, colbert did not go over nearly as well; the laughs were pretty tepid...no doubt because everyone was so uncomfortable. the only one who came out well was dear old helen thomas. of course it could have been better and bolder, but i wonder if people would have walked out....it seemed close to that at times. but this is the single best attack on our president and description of our unbelievable predicament i have yet heard....and from a comedian. looks like we truly have a king, and the jester is the only one who can get away criticism that even approaches what the hell is really going on here. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=moddeyscrebbagh>Moddey Screbbagh</A> at: 4/30/06 1:26 pm<br></i>
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Re: in bush's face

Postby Qutb » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:23 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"colbert and the daily show are very much a threat to the bushgang, not because they are going to be movement leaders, but because they set the stage, make and hold a space free for the view that our rulers are shameful imbeciles deserving of less than zero respect, deserving to be mocked as the exposed fakers, the obviously incompetent, inhuman, liers, cheats and swindelers they are. This, in and of itself, isn't going to swing the tide, but it provoides an on-ramp for millions of people who otherwise would see NO ONE with anything bad to say about the naked ape in the white house; and it provides a safe haven for the ever gowing majority of the population that know that SOMETHING very wrong is in the white house; and that it must go."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I agree. I love the Daily Show. I think they're funny, too.<br><br>I recently saw a documentary about political humor in the former Eastern Bloc. Apparently, humor played a role in undermining the legitimacy of the regimes in the eyes of the public. In the 1980s, the Soviet Union would increasingly allow these kind of jokes on television, but within limits. The idea was to let people blow off some steam, but the effect was probably the opposite. Anyway, even then I don't think they would have allowed anything like the Daily Show.<br><br>It <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>is</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> incredible that this is (probably) the first time PNAC has been mentioned on mainstream US television. And Billy Kristol was left "speechless", as if some unwritten rule had been breached. He clearly didn't expect that. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: in bush's face

Postby Qutb » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:57 pm

Wow... Colbert was awsome at the correspondence dinner. It's a must-see. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: in bush's face

Postby zjurhgvc » Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:50 pm

It was awesome, agreed. Making bush and co. look like monkeys in front of the world--what was this intended to prove? Not only was there a Gannon button, but Colbert actually said that McClellean was retiring so he could spend more time with Andy Card's kids. There was also a veiled reference to Rove's homosexuality, so he hit all three.<br><br>Cui bono?<br><br>Just the resurging "Left"? I'm not so sure. This whole mad rush to war with Iran--apparently back by France--has me wondering if our time is up, in the globalists' view. It seems we are being led on, egged on, drawn on to our doom, lured by greed, into same oblivion that Nazi Germany went to. Somebody is going to profit mightily when the US crashes and burns and has to be reconstructed. Such as great, great time to invest in Citibank and JP Morgan Chase, ABN AMRO and UBS, Rothschild and Morgan Stanley and all the rest. Perhaps it has already been decided--the reins of power will shift (back) to Europe, and China, India, and perhaps a resurgent Russia will be the new United States. I guess you'd have to have been to the Bilderbergers' get-together. <p></p><i></i>
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The "Gannon Button"

Postby albion » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:11 pm

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