Michael W. Smith--Christian Pop Star/Satanist?

by **rothbardian** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:11 am

For those of you who were intrigued by what had caused Pat Robertson to flash a Masonic (luciferian) hand sign...this one ought to fry your gizzard-- (Robertson: <a href="http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,1101860217,00.html?internalid=AC">www.time.com/time/covers/...ernalid=AC</a> ) I had followed the career of Christian pop musician Michael W. Smith for years. I didn't really like his music much but when my kids came along they liked watching his concert videos, as he was one of the few Christian artists to have professionally produced videos like that. It kept my kids occupied when they were three and four years old. They've since moved on to more 'mature' stuff. Having watched him up close on these videos (behind-the-scenes footage and scenes of him at home with his All-American family) and having seen him perform (on TV) at a number of Billy Graham crusades, where he sang and talked briefly about his life...Smith had always come across as completely sincere, very gracious, rather mild-mannered and very charitable with his fans. He wrote and performed a song at the Columbine memorial service. He had a least one song that rose to the top of the secular charts "My Place In This World" and he has collaborated with Amy Grant over the years. For those of you unfamiliar with the world of 'Christian' pop music, it is fair to say that Smith is at the pinnacle of that world. (There may be a couple others who come close.) Now...when I ran across the following info, it really jolted me big time-- it was my introduction to the mindboggling concept of hidden Luciferians who have been deceptively inserted into the Christian culture. Here is one of his CDs (I'll get back to that in a moment). <img src="http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/8f/18/4e3c7220eca04fe70edd2010.L.jpg" style="border:0;"/> On the back of one of Smith’s CDs entitled “The Big Picture”, his name is spelled backwards. Now I am not jumping to a conclusion here, but spelling, talking (and a host of others things) backwards is HUGE in satanic circles. But...what is really interesting is that two of the letters in his ‘backwards’ name are of a RUNIC font. Notice the ‘t’ and the ‘m’. That’s not good. The runic alphabet originates directly out of occult practices and witchcraft. It is virtually the satanic alphabet. (The word ‘runic’ means ‘secret’.) <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/mwsmith_rune.jpg" style="border:0;"/> There are several variations of the runic alphabet, but in my research I found that the three major versions which have predominated the occult world, all have the identical ‘t’ and ‘m’ that you see on the back of the Michael W. Smith album. Now take another closer look at this "Christmastime" CD cover-- You will notice that Smith is, again, bringing this runic ‘t’ and ‘m’ into play. He is forming a runic ‘t’ with his body (going so far as to lower his head, to round off the top of the ‘t’) AND is standing on top of this chair which forms a runic ‘m’. That was pretty shocking to me. <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/mssmith_christmas.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Then if you visit his website...sure enough, he's got more occult symbols-- there are all these spinning (crescent) moons, and there is a white five-point star (i.e. pentagram) on display. I normally wouldn't pay much attention to a 'star' but in this context and having studied the actual origin of five-point stars (yes, I believe the stars on the US flag are of Masonic design)...it is significant. Also compare this, for example, with the crescent pendant carefully displayed by the occultic Karl Marx- <img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f9/Kmarx.jpg" style="border:0;"/> I think I've detected yet another thing like this from Smith. Let me first set the stage-- You have to take a quick look at the history of the so-called 'Peace symbol'. It's origins seem rather indisputable to me. Here is a quote: "Known as the 'peace sign' throughout the sixties and into the present day, this symbol is the Teutonic rune of death. Fifties peace advocate Gerald Holtom may have been commissioned by...Bertrand Russell to design a symbol to unite leftist peace marchers in 1958. It is clear that either Holtom or Russell deemed the Teutonic (Neronic) cross as the appropriate symbol for their cause. The peace symbol (also called the "broken cross," "crow's foot," "witch's foot," "Nero Cross," "sign of the 'broken Jew,'" and the "symbol of the 'anti-Christ''') is actually a cross with the arms broken. "The Germanic tribes who used it attributed strange and mystical properties to the sign. Such a 'rune' is said to have been used by 'black magicians' in pagan incantations and condemnations....To this very day the inverted broken cross--identical to the socialists' 'peace' symbol--is known in Germany as a 'todersrune,' or death rune. Not only was it ordered by Hitler's National Socialists that it must appear on German death notices, but it was part of the official inscription prescribed for the gravestones of Nazi officers of the dread SS. The symbol suited Nazi emphasis on pagan mysticism.''http://www.nisbett.com/symbols/peace_sign.htm Take a look at the cover of this Smith DVD-- It certainly looks to me that the Crow’s Foot/Raven's Foot is being displayed on Smith’s forehead...keeping in mind, the context of what we have already looked at. He seems to be tilting his head slightly down and to the left. <img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00013NE72.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" style="border:0;"/> He has openly acknowledged (apparently without his fans understanding the ominous significance) that he has patterned himself in the past, after the Alan Parsons Project, a pointedly occultic rock group that has routinely displayed satanic symbolism on it's cover art. <img src="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/parsons_eye.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Smith therefore, likewise has a CD cover where it seems fairly clear that he is indicating The Eye of Horus...a luciferian/Masonic symbol found on the dollar bill and many other places these days. And the title of the CD is intriguing also-- "I2(EYE)" <img src="http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000004R2.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg" style="border:0;"/> You can clearly see the shaded triangle in the background, which is a pretty clear indication, in light of the album title (and everything else we have seen). I've wondered why the bottom part of the photo has been torn off. Here is a more recent manifestation of this symbol (on the cover art for the movie "Aeon Flux")-- <img src="http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000EOTAM6.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_V57015707_.jpg" style="border:0;"/> You might wonder what purpose it would serve to have these Luciferian plants (if indeed that is what we are looking at here): A few weeks ago I turned on the TV and there it was...a great big Billy Graham TV special...a 'support-our-troops'/support-the-Iraq-War extravaganza. They had pulled out all the stops....Christian celebrities, Christian pop artists. And a big appearance by Michael W. Smith. It was just a huge 'dog-and-pony' show, with American flags flying every where, old footage of Johnny Cash (who was a Graham regular over the years) singing patriotic songs...the works. Some of these people are apparently playing the role of Pied Pipers, leading the American people by the nose, straight into totalitarianism.

by **rothbardian** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:39 am

Here's the website link I forgot to add in-- <a href="http://www.michaelwsmith.com/index2.php">www.michaelwsmith.com/index2.php</a> By the way, I have communicated with ex-cultists who claim that what you see on this "Christmastime" CD is routinely recognizable as runing activity. After all...what on God’s green earth is Michael doing out there in the snow, standing on a chair in this (otherwise) utterly inexplicable position…and with no indication whatsoever as to what this is about?? (One researcher half-jokingly asked: “Where’s the manger scene, by the way?”)

by **mother** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:19 am

The Christmas album cover should be the clue that this boy worships himself, not baby Jesus. Further, the term Christian Rock or pop is by itself not possible. It is dumbed-down commercial garbage, requires nothing of the listener; it's all about me,me, me. Try some Palastrina or other ancient polyphony. Or,if the photo of White Boy Simpering is too much get yourself some Eminem fast before it's too late. Where's the crow's foot thingie on his Promise Keeping forehead?

by **sunny** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:52 am

I'm willing to follow your logic, but I don't see the shaded triangle on the 12(EYE) cover, tho I do see the crows' foot on the other. But couldn't that be an accident?

by **professorpan** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:10 am

The album cover is odd, to be sure. But some of your other examples don't impress me as Satanic/Luciferian. The hair on head as a "crow's foot"? And the Eye of Horus is not necessarily a "Satanic" symbol -- it's Egyptian. Alan Parsons Project an occult band? Gimme a break. Ditto the shaded-triangle-as-Eye-of-Horus theory. How the hell is a shaded triangle anything more than a shaded triangle? And what do you mean by you know why the bottom of the photo is ripped? I can see you cribbed this material from this site: <a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/michael_smith.htm">www.jesus-is-savior.com/E..._smith.htm</a> That site scares me more than any Alan Parsons Project song. It's a front for Christian separatists, whose ideology is paranoid and extremist -- anti-Catholic, anti-popular culture (all music -- rock, rap, country), anti-gay... in short, the typical Talibanic far right brand of Christianity. But let's just say that you are 100% correct and Michael W. Smith is an agent of Luciferic forces, and that his album encodes occult symbols. I have to wonder, what would that actually accomplish? The man is out pimping Jesus across the U.S., organizing prayer meetings, and generally advocating a Christian lifestyle. Are some runic letters really going to subliminally convert Christians to Satan? Are some coded shapes enough to override his overt Christian message? I dunno. Seems unlikely to me. And the examples aren't in any way (pardon the expression) damning.

by **sunny** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:22 am

professorpan: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>But let's just say that you are 100% correct and Michael W. Smith is an agent of Luciferic forces, and that his album encodes occult symbols. I have to wonder, what would that actually accomplish?<hr></blockquote> Simply to make fools of the dangerously naive, regardless of whether he's an agent of Luciferic forces. The man must be making a ton of money- couldn't you just imagine a Machiavellian ego-maniac getting a perverted kick from undermining the very message he's selling so lucratively? And a "wink-wink" to the ones who get it would only fuel his narcisism.

by **professorpan** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:41 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Simply to make fools of the dangerously naive, regardless of whether he's an agent of Luciferic forces. The man must be making a ton of money- couldn't you just imagine a Machiavellian ego-maniac getting a perverted kick from undermining the very message he's selling so lucratively? And a "wink-wink" to the ones who get it would only fuel his narcisism.<hr></blockquote> Sure, that's possible. If that's the case, it's nothing more than an in-joke. But the sites that seek to expose alleged music/occult connections generally imply that the occult imagery somehow corrupts the listeners. I don't buy that argument, especially in the case of an openly Christian musician with allegedly demonic artwork. And although the runic alphabet and cover photo are strange for a Christian CD cover, it would be interesting to hear what MWS has to say about it, who came up with the cover design, and so forth. I could imagine a disaffected art director working for an ad agency putting in his hidden critque of crappy Christian pop music via some runes and a weird pose. "Ha ha, that'll show those Bible-bangers. Wait until someone finds the "Satanic" symbols... hoo, boy!"

by **sunny** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:50 am

I could imagine a disaffected art director as well. But that supposes MWS is wholly unaware of symbols that one would think would be flaming red-flags to a portion of his audience.

by **professorpan** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:29 pm

I'll agree, it is odd -- the use of runes in particular. Most fundamentalists would have an instinctive, negative reaction to any odd-looking alphabet, Satanic or otherwise.

by **Wolfmoon Lady** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:09 pm

Rothbardian writes:<blockquote>Quote:<hr> The runic alphabet originates directly out of occult practices and witchcraft. It is virtually the satanic alphabet. (The word ‘runic’ means ‘secret’.) <hr></blockquote> I'm starting with a bit of background on Runes, for those who are interested. (I majored in anthropology, with a particular interest in mythology and religion among pre-Christian peoples and I don't attribute every use of ancient symbols to Satanism or its practices.) First and foremost, runes are a kind of alphabet. They were used by the Germanic peoples to mark possessions, gravestones, and were inscribed on weaponry. Like Egyptian hieroglyphs, runes hold the key to understanding Viking culture. Without runes, we would know precious little about the Norse peoples and their language. The earliest Runes date from the Bronze Age (1300 BCE). The Vikings did not practice Satanism in the sense that we understand it today. In other words, they'd have had to practice Christianity in order to embrace or worship Christ's evil counterpart, Satan. However, the Vikings didn't accept Christianity until around 200 AD, as part of their cultural assimilation with the Anglo-Saxons. Prior to that, as most Europeans, they were a pagan people, as were the Greeks and Romans. That does not make them Satanists. For that matter, I've seen instances where occultists used Theban runes and Latin script. Some, who follow the Egyptian mystery cults, use hieroglyphs. The Germanic runes are no more sinister, or specific to Satanistic beliefs, than any other ancient form of writing. However, I agree the Runes have magical and divination uses, and it's important to understand these practices within the context of ancient Germanic culture. In Germania, written around CE 97, and one of the first ethnographic texts, the Roman historian Tacitus writes: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> To divination they pay much attention. Their method is a simple one: they cut a branch from a fruit-bearing tree and divide it into small pieces which they mark with certain distinctive signs and scatter at random onto a white cloth. Then the priest of the community (if it is done publicly) or the father of the family (if it is done privately) after invoking the gods and with eyes raised to heaven, picks up three pieces one at a time and interprets them in accordance with the signs previously marked on them.<hr></blockquote> It's good to understand the runes origins and place in the culture and history of the Germanic peoples, and how some, of Germanic ancestry, still use runes, even though they are devoutly Christian. For example, the Pennsylvania Dutch have used runic symbology since they settled in America. The familiar hex-symbols on the barns and houses usually incorporate several runic glyphs, usually meant for protection and house blessings. They still use folk healers (called "Pow-Wows") who incorporate Christian prayers with their workings. So, yes, runes are used for all kinds of reasons and by many kinds of people. This practice is as old as human culture. I read somewhere that their use in rural England was so widespread that Thomas Hardy pooh-poohed their significance as "worth nothing more than finding a lost cow." (FWIW : Another example of a Christian culture that includes elements of their pagan past is the Irish/Celtic culture. The bale fires of Lughnassadh and Beltane, for example, still burn all across Ireland and Scotland. Gifts are still left for the Fairies, and many believe the spirit mounds are inhabited by the wee folk. These are pagan practices. The word 'pagan' comes from the word 'pagani' - from the Latin, meaning country-dweller, civilian, and carries the connotations of superstition and simple-mindedness by comparison to city-dwellers. Not evil and not a Satan worshipper, but someone not educated in the ways of institutionalized religion.) It's worth pointing out that most of us wouldn't even know about the swastika, let alone consider it an evil symbol, if not for Hitler. The swastika is a universal symbol, seen in multiple instances throughout many world cultures. To the Germanic people, it was a sun symbol, fyi, which meant LIFE, and an acknowledgement of the power of natural forces. To wear the swastika was to draw the power of the sun into oneself for power. The Norse were a warrior people with a very distinct worldview about the afterlife. (Valhalla was a place of brawling and drunkenness, after all, and only heroes could go there. I guess this mythology appealed to Dolph and fiends.) Rothbardian writes: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> After all...what on God’s green earth is Michael doing out there in the snow, standing on a chair in this (otherwise) utterly inexplicable position…and with no indication whatsoever as to what this is about?? (One researcher half-jokingly asked: “Where’s the manger scene, by the way?”) <hr></blockquote> Are you saying that if Smith does feature a manger scene he is not being appropriately Christian? I can't comment on that. Whether or not Michael Smith is a practicing Satanist, I couldn't say by the photo. I do see him using runic symbology in the Christmastime CD cover. In this pose, Smith is making the sign of Tyr (the Sky God), who (according to Norse mythology) sacrificed his hand to the Fenris Wolf in order to save others. It is also a warrior symbol of great courage, and of overcoming death. He is standing on an M, which is the rune for Mankind. I don't see that as sinister but make of it what you will. Perhaps it might be useful to consider Smith's background. Could he be of Germanic or Scandanavian origin? If not, maybe he's a white supremacist. That movement certainly uses runes in symbol and practice. Anyway, this is getting really long. Morgan See, for reference, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyr" target="top">TYR</a>, Wikipedia See, also, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/vikings/evidence_02.shtml" target="top">How Do We Know About the Vikings?</a> By Gareth Williams See, also: <a href="http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/vikings/write.html" target="top">The History of Runes</a> See, also: <a href="http://www.sunnyway.com/runes/links2.html" target="top">Rune Websites from Around the World</a>

by **thoughtographer** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:22 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/CCM/mwsmith_rune.jpg<hr></blockquote> Hmmm -- I wonder if there's an agenda behind this. I mean, I'm all for the fact that nobody should be exempt from a trip under the microscope, but JESUS CHRIST! These witch-hunts are getting pretty tiresome. P.S. - Another "faggot" on the fire: the Masonic "G" is often syncretistically viewed as a simplification or reduction of The Eye of Ra (or the right eye of Horus). "A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 5/22/06 12:28 pm

by **Wolfmoon Lady** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:29 pm

Well, yes, that was my long-winded point. If you see Satan everywhere, He'll certainly turn up. There could be any number of reasons why Smith chose to enact that runic pose. It doesn't have to be Satanic, or evil. It could very well be cultural and meant to evoke a positive symbology. That said, I agree with Pan -- certain fundamentalists might not appreciate seeing it. Morgan

by **albion** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:56 pm

Great post, Wolfmoon Lady, thanks.

by **thoughtographer** » Mon May 22, 2006 3:15 pm

Yeah, that was a great post. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>It could very well be cultural and meant to evoke a positive symbology.<hr></blockquote> True. It could also be argued that it's intentionally open-ended to draw attention to cultural parallels, past and present -- warrior cultures with imperialist tendencies, the cultural significance of divination and prophecy, etc. It could even be viewed as mockery, in that regard. I'd say that it's probably designed to piss off the fundamentalists, and to that I say: "good". Otherwise -- color me confused and/or disinterested. "A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 5/22/06 1:16 pm

by **rothbardian** » Mon May 22, 2006 4:50 pm

By the way, one more observation about Smith. He has a long standing relationship with the Bush family. I've heard him AND Bush family members refer to him as a 'friend of the family'...and he is a golfing buddy to George W. I find that interesting. Mother-- I don't know that I was quite following your train of thought. The Christmas cover displays his ego? I didn't get that myself but...maybe it's all in the eye of the beholder. Also, I happened to like a lot of different kinds of music...including some Christian contemporary stuff. U2 constantly incorporates into it's songs, some of their Christian beliefs. I just recently bought their latest concert DVD so...to each his own, I guess. Sunny-- Have you got a fix on that triangle yet? It's a shaded area behind the photo. The triangle is tilted to the left and the title "I2(EYE)" is placed at one of the corners of the triangle. Pan-- I appreciate you're at least acknowledging that it's "odd". Although, you're hitting me a little hard when you say I'm "cribbing". I don't know how one would do Internet research without, as you say, 'cribbing'. Sounds like I'm cheating on a test or something. I fully realize I got a couple of those photos from a rather odd hyper-fundamentalist website but...I get info from scary BigBrother-advocate lefty sites too (like the "ProfessorPan blog" and RI). Internet research is not for the fainthearted. I've gleaned info from David Icke, for that matter. This fundy site happened to have this stuff about two of Smith's CD covers. That whole over-the-top 'demonizing' and/or 'sanctifying' of entire websites (that goes on here at RI much of the time) just strikes me as dubious and counterproductive. But depending on where a person is coming from culturally/philosophically, I don't blame them for having triple or quadruple layers of queasy disdain for pompous JerryFalwellian religiosity. I'm onboard with that myself. Now when you say you're at least a little intrigued by this runing activity, it makes me wonder then, why the rush to dismiss the other indications (the Raven's Foot etc). If the runing activity is real, then the other (apparent) manifestations would be something you would expect from a secretively runing Luciferian. (It's no 'biggie'. I'm just wondering.) You were questioning the I2(EYE) CD with the shaded triangle-- Again, this is about context. In the context of the other stuff we see...there is this shaded triangle on this particular CD cover, and the CD is entitled I2(EYE). Triangle+EYE. Get it? He's being a tad subtle, granted. But in context, that is something notable. For me personally, it's a slamdunk...given the context. Keep in mind- particularly with someone who has a 'Mr. Pan'-type orientation (no offense intended), I know from the outset I am probably only going to be able to go so far, in a discussion. You are steeped in a particular worldview, that I respect but disagree with. It is a 'disconnect' for me when folks like yourself can't make the connection between the ancient Egyptian religions...and Luciferianism: Firstly, you have all this satanic RA going on (Franklin, Shadow Ridge Church -per the Hamlins, Hosanna Church, ad infinitum). Secondly, we're constantly seeing connections to the 'power elite' in that regard (the Jeff Gannon/JohnnyGosch/Barney Frank thing, the Finders, Marc Dutroux etc.etc.) And thirdly, these elites obviously love this ancient and/or occultic symbolism because they're having it crop up absolutely everywhere...everything from the Washington monument obelisk to the illumnist Statue of Liberty, and the fifty little pentagrams on the American flag etc. (And all of that is just for openers.) I would think that at the very least, one has to ask why this Triangle/Eye thing is cropping up on the dollar bill, on a Smith CD cover, a Hollywood movie cover (Aeon Flux shown above) and absolutely all over the place. Now...at your blog you are documenting satanic ritual abuse under the cover of a Christian church...and yet you're wondering why there would be undercover Satanists (like Smith?) hidden in a Christian context. That's a lot of not-connecting-the-dots, from my perspective. But again, in fairness, your 'jury' is still out (from your comments). That's somewhat hopeful. You were asking what purpose this covert Satanism serves-- You may possibly have missed the entire last section of my post. I address that question directly. Did you miss that? Let me answer that in different words-- Most of you libs are quick to recognize how sedated and sheep-like the Christian/BibleBelt/MidWestern/Suburbanite/FoxNews types are. There has been a huge and systematic push coming from so-called 'Christian' leadership over the years...to equate Christianity with 'patriotism' AND to equate patriotism, in turn, with a heavily militarized (imperialistic) US foreign policy and now also...an increasingly clamped-down police state (to fight the "war on terror"). If you've sat back and watched these Christian leaders operate, the way I have over the years, you can see a systematic propagandizing-- "go along with the program" "don't question authority" "just be a nice, quiet, passive, neighborly sap"...and "support all US wars". There is in fact a HUGE overall distraction process like that underway with the American community, from my viewpoint-- keeping everybody busy following sports, movies, American Idol, what Paris Hilton is wearing, etc. And meanwhile (if you've noticed) it is generally a cultural taboo to discuss politics, the very thing we SHOULD be discussing. Most RI posters seem to be aware of this 'dumbed down' status in the Western world. The same thing is going on in conservative Church culture-- parishioners are being herded from one MichaelWSmith concert to the next. And a long series of church picnics, beach parties and sterile 'prayer meetings'. Meanwhile, it is literally against the law for them to discuss community (i.e. national) matters in their meetings (per the PTB). This whole setup is not an accident. As I said-- the role of people like Smith has been that of a Pied Piper. When the Columbine thing happened, guess who rushed in to help paint it as a Christian martyrdom thing, when in fact (per Dave McGowan's intriguing research) there were far more sinister things involved? Answer: Michael W.Smith. I'm not sure why more people aren't connecting the dots in regard to some of these things. Many people are testifying that powerful evil people out there are deliberately inflicting MPD/DID on any number of victims...and then utilizing that condition for any number of nefarious purposes. Anything from sex slavery to...very complex and prolonged tasks. People like Svali and Springmeier (with or without their flaws) have provided some insight into what is going on here. When you take some of their insights, and compare/contrast with other evidence such as the bizarre 'runing' and symbol-flashing of Smith...I begin to get a picture. Somebody like Smith may very well have been taken from early childhood (similar to "sw", "havangilla" and many others) and subjected to mind control (via DID) and then used in this manner. Like I said, I've watched Smith for years. He has a very mild-mannered, charitable, kindly demeanor that doesn't jibe with a stereotypical satanic personality. If he is a DID/Luciferian, I would not be at all surprised to know that he is utterly unaware of his MPD/DID status. His 'core personality' may only be aware of his Christian pop musician status. Many others have testified to that mental block-- Svali, Richard Hamlin experienced this with his spouse, there are some at this board I have friend who wasn't consciously aware of her involvement in Satanism/Luciferianism until she was in her forties and somehow the 'amnesiac walls' broke down. So I've seen this phenomenon, first hand. P.S. I disagree with you about Alan Parsons. They have a very heavy occultic emphasis. Almost every cover has the symbolism. They write songs about Satan. It goes well beyond a MotlerCrue guy, flashing the 'horns'. (Not that there's much at stake in this disagreement.) Also, I didn't say I know what's on the missing portion of the photo. I said I wonder what's on it. (FYI)

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