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CitizenSpook calls Daniel Hopsicker a Govt Mole

Postby dbeach » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:47 pm

LOVE HIM OR NOT HE IS BACK and blastin away!!<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/">citizenspook.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>'DANIEL HOPSICKER IS THE GOVERNMENT MOLE MESSIAH OF 911 TRUTH DAMAGE CONTROL <br><br><br>I haven't written about 911 before in this blog. So let me state what I believe has already been proved by the physical, scientific, testimonial -- repressed -- evidence: the US Government pulled off the 911 tragedy to further its own goals of reshaping the global power grid in favor of their interests. It's the greatest crime ever perpetrated.<br><br>And the genius elements of the Government who were charged with the 911 task certainly anticipated that their would be a 911 truth movement. They, more than any of us, knew that they had a very small window under which they could remain safe from public scientific media scrutiny. They knew they could whitewash 911 for a couple of years, but eventually the massive truth would come down on them in this information age. After all, you can't effectively spin things like "scale" and "physics" let alone eyewitness reports.<br><br>The stakes were just too huge to ignore the ability of truth to come to the fore. So the Government prepared their antidotes well in advance of 911. This is the Citizenspook take and the following attack on Daniel Hopsicker's credibility is intended to expose his reporting on 911 as a black psy op of damage control. And I must applaud the intelligence involved with this operation. It was planned before 911. It's first strike came in September 2001 and it has continued to grow under the excellent handling of an incredibly talented group of operatives charged with taking the sting out of the real 911 truth movement.<br><br>Let me warn you, the following argument, while simple to grasp, must not be judged until the punchline at the very end. Thank you for your patience while reading this.<br><br>Last week I became aware of Daniel Hopsicker's recent article regarding the intricate web connecting Mohammad Atta with a local Venice, Florida convenience store owner by the name of Makram Chams. Atta hung out at Chams' convenience store many times before 911. Hopsicker originally wrote about this connection back in 2005. Last week a new development tied Chams to Titan Corporation:<br><br>"San Diego defense contractor Titan Corporation, already implicated in the fraudulent bankruptcy of a shadowy St. Petersburg FL company which owned the DC9 "Cocaine One" flight busted in Mexico, employed a Lebanese contractor who assisted Mohamed Atta and other terrorist hijackers in Venice, Florida."<br><br>From Hopsicker's Mad Cow report. <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/05172006.html">www.madcowprod.com/05172006.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I was fascinated by Hopsicker's articles which make a very convincing case that the CIA was involved in assisting the so called 911 hijackers obtain flight training.<br><br>SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS SERIES OF ARTICLES AND MAY BE SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD ASKING -- WHY WOULD SOMEBODY IMPLICATE THE CIA IF THEY WERE A GOVERNMENT MOLE MESSIAH OF 911 TRUTH DAMAGE CONTROL?<br><br><br><br>Hopsicker's Nov. 2001 article finishes as follows:<br><br>"Frankly, we can’t differentiate between terrorism and organized crime and drug dealing," Assistant Attorney General Michael Chertoff told the Senate Banking Committee hearings about the terrorists’ money trail in the aftermath of the Sept 11 disaster.<br><br>Terrorist groups have been implicated in the $360 billion a year international narcotics trade, directed by organized crime, says Judge Thierry Cretin of the European Anti-Fraud Office.<br><br>As recently as six weeks ago, crime families were being seen as particularly important for terrorist groups involved in the acquisition and transport of arms, like in the case of a Jersey City man, accused of attempting to smuggle Stinger missiles out of the country to Osama bin Laden, who is now reportedly helping federal agents investigating the Sept 11 terrorist attacks.<br><br>If the deal he got caught doing was typical, insiders say, it was oil and heroin up front for guns and training.<br><br>Oil and heroin upfront for arms and training. Now there’s a story we haven’t heard about yet in the roiling skies above the terrorist flight schools on the Gulf Coast of Florida. "<br><br>He's got this concept down -- A CIA BUNGLED ATTEMPT TO INFILTRATE AL QUEDA WENT HORRIFICALLY AWRY RESULTING IN 911 DISASTER AND COVER UP -- since all the way back in November, 2001. And isn't it amazing how the story has continued to blossom for Hopsicker right up until yesterday, May 25, 2006, when he published the following article:<br><br>"PORTER GOSS RESIGNATION MYSTERY SOLVED: DC 9 WITH 5.5 TONS OF COCAINE WAS CIA PLANE." <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/05252006.html">www.madcowprod.com/05252006.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>This Hopsicker, a regular 911 Nostradamus. He's the Messiah of Government 911 damage control. You heard it here first at Citizenspook.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CitizenSpook calls Daniel Hopsicker a Govt Mole

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:50 pm

well, this sucks. i still think hopsicker is one of the better ones. <p></p><i></i>
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Ah yes, CitizenSpook

Postby nomo » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:53 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>You heard it here first at Citizenspook.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Please. At least Hopsicker has sources you can check. All CitizenSpook can come up with is half-assed speculation about Controlled Demolition. And because Hopsicker doesn't believe in that, he must be a government mole. What. Ever. <br><br>Can we just stick to verifiable facts here, please? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ah yes, CitizenSpook

Postby dbeach » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:02 pm

'Can we just stick to verifiable facts here, please? "<br><br>My mistake though this place was open to discussion<br><br>Hopp went from MM to 9/11 truthseeker in a NYC second<br><br>CS was acceptable for discussion last summer.<br><br>.DID the rules change??<br><br>I will ask Jeff<br><br>THANX!<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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I have a lot of respect for Hopsicker

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:12 pm

and I've lost some for Citizen Spook. He disagrees with Hopsicker, fine: he should make his argument. Calling Hopsicker a "mole" is cheap and dirty and foolish.<br><br>Hopsicker's genius is in the miniature, combing Florida like a crime scence. What he thinks the big picture might be doesn't carry as much weight, because to speculate about it he needs to move away from his area of expertise.<br><br>If Hopsicker's the government's "mole messiah," I suppose we can chalk that one up as a failed op. There's no one on the 9/11 scene in the US more deserving of attention who's more widely ignored and scorned. And there's not a more important book than <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Welcome to Terrorland</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.<br><br>I like what <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2005/06/important-news-on-mohammed-atta-and.html">cannonfire</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> said last year, endorsing Hopsicker's work:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>The events of September 11, 2001, have occasioned many unconvincing theories, and have filled many a plate with a side order of scarlet red herring. Readers interested in the "unconventional wisdom" on 9/11 will, I hope, pay less attention to wild claims of "controlled demolition," jet-shaped missiles, and similarly far-fetched ideas. The "ground level" investigative leads which I have briefly outlined here seem much more promising.<br><br>Here's a very telling fact: Well-funded right-wing conspiracy theorists have embraced the "controlled demolition" nonsense. Yet these rightists have studiously ignored the more important tale of Mohammed Atta and the subterranean linkages between the terorrists and various personages within our own national security establishment.<br><br>That is where we should focus our attention.<br></em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 6/2/06 1:13 pm<br></i>
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Re: Ah yes, CitizenSpook

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:26 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Can we just stick to verifiable facts here, please?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>no, we really cant. theyve got the questions and the answers sewn up.<br><br>lookout kid, they keep it all hid... <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dudehhomesliceix@rigorousintuition>dude h homeslice ix</A> at: 6/2/06 1:27 pm<br></i>
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Re: Ah yes, CitizenSpook

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:29 pm

agreed. the entire case can be built on human intelligence, the actually story. asking how the buildings came down is irrelevant, compared to the real questions of who and why. <p></p><i></i>
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The rules haven't changed

Postby nomo » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:29 pm

Wow. So anytime someone goes from the mainstream media to "truthseeker" he must be an agent? What kind of reasoning is that? <br><br>This place is still open to discussion. But smearing someone just because he doesn't share your own deluded paranoid conspiracy theories is not the kind of discussion I'd like to see here.<br><br>But that's just me. <p></p><i></i>
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it wasn't an abrupt jump from mm to 9/11

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:43 pm

For years before, Hopsicker was writing pieces and producing videos on parapolitical subjects like CIA drug trafficking and mob/government ties.<br><br>If Hopsicker's suspect for having once worked in mainstream media, what kind of a cloud of suspicion should a figure like "ex-Bush Administration insider" Morgan Reynolds be under? And yet those who might call Hopsicker a "mole messiah" embrace Reynolds uncritically as a champion of the most outlandish 9/11 theories. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ah yes, CitizenSpook

Postby albion » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:46 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>At this very moment in time they are getting [Hopsicker] ready for the major talk show circuit.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Nice touch, but unless CS has photos of Hopsicker going over scripts with Wolf Blitzer and John Negroponte in the green room at CNN (or something), it's more likely that he just made that up. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ah yes, CitizenSpook

Postby dbeach » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:03 pm

This place is still open to discussion. But smearing someone just because he doesn't share your own deluded paranoid conspiracy theories is not the kind of discussion I'd like to see here.'<br><br><br>NOME the keyboard commando<br><br>your syle REMIANS THE SAME attack THE MESSENGER!<br><br>How do you know I am deleded and paranoid as you say ?<br> Is that your rigorous intutition?<br><br>YOU smeared me after CS <br><br>Nobody is above a good smear ...BUT you get vicious<br><br>We had this same discussion before <br><br><br><br><br><br>Jeff weighed in I will let it rest <br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Ah yes, CitizenSpook

Postby nomo » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:10 pm

Dude, chill. Ever heard of the rhetorical "you"?<br><br>I wasn't saying <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>you</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> were deluded and paranoid -- but after reading your reply I might have to reconsider...<br><br>(Oh, and that's <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>sarcasm </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->-- not a smear.)<br><br>Peace. <p></p><i></i>
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Citizenspook and easy conclusions

Postby sijepuis » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:23 pm

Thanks, Dbeach, for bringing this article to our attention.<br><br>Citizenspook may or may not be correct with regard to Hopsicker, but his view is worth consideration, in any case. <br><br>CS never set out to be a "believe-my-scoop" kind of guy. When he ventures into speculative terrain, he's been honest enough to recommend that we use <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>our own judgment</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. In fact he's been scrupulous in this respect. <br><br>In his most recent post, he's warned us about a possible set-up, which could, potentially, do great damage to the validity of 911 research. -- And if you give it some though, his argument is altogether <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>plausible</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, given the DoD's moves to annex everything intelligence-related, and its concerted effort to place lump sum blame on the CIA for faulty intelligence from 911 to Iraq. <br><br>The world's a messy, illusory place. I'd recommend not discounting either Citizenspook or Hopsicker, if it's out of need for the comfort of a tidy viewpoint. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Citizenspook and easy conclusions

Postby dbeach » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:42 pm

NOME <br><br> I don't kiss the boots of bush or you or anybody you attack me then slap me dowm with your snide side reamrks not directed at me<br><br>OH PLEASE<br><br>Stick with your annointed sources like Hoppi ..the former MM darling and I will do same <p></p><i></i>
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Thank You Dbeach

Postby bamabecky » Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:07 pm

for bringing forth the discussion. The 911 truth movement suffers from NWO types infiltrating and guming up the works. I don't know that much about what motivates either one of those guys. You have to wonder why some here want to throw mud at others here. I guess everybody is motivated by some agenda of some sort. Mine is the truth WHEREVER IT LEADS and I know you well enough to know that's exactly what your after also. <br><br>It is good to bring stuff like this out. Weight it out. Pick it apart. Let others add what they know. Through the mix perhaps one or the other writers ends up still standing tall. And the rest of us end up the wiser perhaps. <br>Bama <p>Be the Media! Write a personal essay to your friends and family, telling them what's going on and tell them how and where to find more info.</p><i></i>
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