Decoy film hides US-Nazi connection from US school kids.

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Decoy film hides US-Nazi connection from US school kids.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:01 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>This movie is a decoy being given to America's kids by a CIA cut-out film company to hide the US-Nazi connection exemplified by the grandfather of George W. Bush, Prescott Bush who was found to be aiding the enemy in 1942. </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->Even John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles were funneling big corporate money to build the Nazi Party in the 1920s and 1930s.<br><br>The mastermind behind this whitewash of US-Nazi history is a German public relations consultant named Peter Schroeder who is an international Karl Rove-type-<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.polcon.de/en/peterschroeder.htm">www.polcon.de/en/peterschroeder.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.polcon.de/pics/schroeder.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>1971- 1978 General secretary of the federal state organisation of the liberal Free Democratic Party (F.D.P.) in Schleswig Holstein<br><br>1978 - 1982 Head of "Department for communications and elections" in the headquarter of the party and at the same time head of "Department for training and programmes" in the Friedrich-Naumann-Foundation.<br>1982 - 1987 Director of the advertising agency for social marketing (BOSS).<br><br>Since 1987 Director of the "Institute for communication researches" and lecturer for political sciences at the "Cologne School for Politics and economy" in Cologne.<br><br>Other assignments since 1987 as freelance consultant:<br>Planning for political strategies, consulting in political communications, training adult educators and managers.<br><br>Consultation for parties, politicians, non-governmental-organisations, governments, local authorities in strategies for elections, conflict management and negotiations and projects of decentralisation, deregulation, new public management.<br><br>Consultations in more than 60 countries in all parts of the world. <br>....<br>Planning of strategies for policies, business and personal career.<br><br>With our special strategy-planning instrument for political, business and interpersonal acitivities we are successful in implementing difficult policies as privatization, participation, creating new levels of administration, deregulation, decentralization, fighting corruption and fundamentalism <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>as well as winning elections, stabilizing governments and making opposition more effective.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>The instrument is also effective in planning market-strategies for companies to enlarge the market share or to stabilize the market. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Even for the preparation of career planning and interaction with other persons this flexible instrument, which has been influenced by different cultural areas and personalities (von Clausewitz, Macchiavelli, Kautilya, Sun Tzu), is suitable.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Yes, Macchiavelli can plan your propaganda, too! For $1000 a day plus expenses.<br><br>Schroeder was instrumental in getting this decoy project off the ground going so far as to come up with an authentic Nazi railroad car to be flown to the tiny town in Tennessee where a middle school project on tolerance was germinating, pun intended.<br><br>http://www.washingtonian.com/people/03/paperclips.html <br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The project might have died, too, were it not for Lena Gitter, a Washington Holocaust survivor, and her friends Peter Schroeder, 61, and Dagmar Schroeder-Hildebrand, 60, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>journalists who cover the White House for a German-language newspaper group.<br><br>The Schroeders have lived in Washington for 23 years, mostly covering US politics.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> They often have written about the Holocaust.<br><br>“We are the last generation who will know this,” Dagmar says. “We have a certain responsibility as Germans.”<br><br>When the Schroeders moved to Washington in 1980, Dagmar met Lena Gitter through the local German club. Peter was so intrigued by her life that he wrote a book about her.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Peter Schroeder isn't exactly "a journalist." <br>He is a political consultant and propagandist.<br><br>As of 8/15/06, schools around the US will be offered an 'award-winning educational version' of Schroeder's and the Johnson Group's decoy movie as a Holocaust history class for junior high and senior high school students.<br><br>An "inspirational film company" called the Johnson Group was behind the making of a documentary released by Miramax in 2004 about the use of paper clips in WWII to protest against the Nazis. The heartwarming affirmation of the spirit of resistance is called <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'Paper Clips.'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>This movie is still sitting on a top shelf at my local video store-<br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/eb/Paper_Clips_poster.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Clips_Project<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Paper Clips Project</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> is a project by middle school students from the small southeastern Tennessee city of Whitwell who created a monument for the Holocaust victims in Nazi Germany. It started in 1998 as a simple 8th-grade project and evolved into a project gaining worldwide attention. At last count, over 30 million paper clips had been received. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Paper Clips</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, an award-winning documentary film about the project, was released in 2004 by Miramax Studios.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>By remarkable coincidence, the name of the US program to take in hundreds of Nazi war criminals after WWII as assets to form the CIA and NASA was...<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'Project Paperclip.'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Project_Paperclip_Team_at_Fort_Bliss.jpg/300px-Project_Paperclip_Team_at_Fort_Bliss.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Operation Paperclip was the codename under which the US intelligence and military services extricated scientists from Germany, during and after the final stages of World War II. The project was originally called Operation Overcast, and is sometimes also known as Project Paperclip. [1]<br><br>Of particular interest were scientists specialising in aerodynamics and rocketry (such as those involved in the V-1 and V-2 projects), chemical weapons, chemical reaction technology and medicine. These scientists and their families were secretly brought to the United States, without State Department review and approval; their service for Hitler's Third Reich, NSDAP and SS memberships as well as the classification of many as war criminals or security threats also disqualified them from officially obtaining visas. An aim of the operation was capturing equipment before the Soviets came in. The US Army destroyed some of the German equipment to prevent it from being captured by the advancing Soviet Army.<br><br>The majority of the scientists, numbering almost 500, were deployed at White Sands Proving Ground, New Mexico, Fort Bliss, Texas and Huntsville, Alabama to work on guided missile and ballistic missile technology. This in turn led to the foundation of NASA and the US ICBM program.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>This information war method of hiding politically damaging names or themes with <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>decoys</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> is called <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>'keyword hijacking.'</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>As of 8/15/06, schools around the US will be offered an 'award-winning educational version' of the Johnson Group's decoy movie as a class for junior high and senior high school students.<br><br>http://www.paperclipsstore.com/Educational.html<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>DVD SPECIAL FEATURES<br><br> * 4 Lesson Plans Geared Towards Junior and Senior High School Students<br> * Student Handout Materials<br> * Educator's Manual<br><br>Includes<br><br> * 4 Curriculum<br> * 1 Study Guide<br> * 1 Student Manual<br> * 1 Educator’s Guide<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br>Earlier this year James Bamford interviewed one of the Rendon Group's two brothers. One brother does heartwarming peace work like arranging teleconferences between American and Iraqi students while the other brother markets the Iraq war for the White House out of the very same office.<br><br>Now look more closely at The Johnson Group which got this 'Paper Clips' documentary film into video stores around the US.<br><br>http://www.thejgroup.com/There are some films about AIDS, people with disabilities, mental health, and domestic violence. All community-minded topics.<br><br>But there is also promotion of 'foreign violence,' that is, war.<br><br>It appears that The Johnson Group is another CIA cut-out functioning as a psy-op production company in Maclean, Virginia and working for the White House and Pentagon.<br><br>"Producers of the Christmas Pageant of Peace at the White House."<br><br>Bob Johnson is on the executive board of this annual White House propaganda scene where America's Godly Role is sung about no matter who they are bombing and torturing that year.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Christmas Pageant of Peace<br>For nearly 20 years, The Johnson Group has produced the annual lighting of the National Christmas Tree. For one special night of the year, The Ellipse near the White House becomes America’s town square. More than 7,000 visitors and neighbors in the Capital area gather to hear the President’s Christmas message and to watch as he lights the National Christmas Tree. Each year, The Johnson Group invites some of America’s favorite entertainers to participate in the lighting ceremony.<br><br>More information is available at www.pageantofpeace.org. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>http://www.thejgroup.com/project.html<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Bedford: The Town They Left Behind<br><br>Bedford: The Town They Left Behind (working title) is our latest documentary and is currently in pre-production. When finished, Bedford will share the enormous personal sacrifice of the small town of Bedford, Virginia – the community that lost more men per capita on D-Day than any other in America. And the sacrifice continues. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Johnson Group plans to connect Bedford’s bravest soldiers from WWII to those from the community who serve in Iraq and Afghanistan today.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.thejgroup.com/images/wk_bedford4.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.thejgroup.com/images/wk_bedford7.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br> HALO<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>HALO, a documentary produced for the Discovery Channel, takes <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>an in-depth look at an elite unit of soldiers training to become “High Altitude, Low Opening” jumpers. As part of the nation’s effort to combat terrorism, HALO soldiers train to jump at altitudes as high as 35,000 feet, freefalling to about 2,000 feet before opening their chutes.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> HALO also explores the impact of such rigorous training on the families that support these unusual soldiers.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.thejgroup.com/images/wk_halo.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>Another 'Paperclip' decoy is an online project involving a Canadian who started a series of trades with one red paperclip and eventually traded up to a house and an appearance on a TV show, a heartwarming excercise in capitalism.<br><br><br><br><br><br>I hope more RI readers can discern the mind viruses in the culture warrior theme park known as the 'entertainment industry.'<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br>And warn the kids that they are being offered decoys to keep them from learning the truth about history.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 7/26/06 4:02 am<br></i>
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Re: Award-winning film company hides US-Nazi connection.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:05 am

Funny how many of my links don't convert to URL links on ezboard.<br><br>Instead of 'clicking,' you have to copy and paste. Oh well. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Award-winning film company hides US-Nazi connection.

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:07 am

The saddest part of this is that the kids almost certainly had no schooling in the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>other</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> Paperclip. For those who know the history, seeing paperclips used as a feel-good symbol of Holocaust remembrance is - well, let's say discombobulating.<br><br>I think, to consider whether this was an act of intentional keyword hijacking, we'd need to know more about the genesis of the school project. Did the teachers or staff who were presumably guiding this know about Project Paperclip? What are their politics?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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inside joke

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<br><br> You don't have to assume a complex hierarchy or evil nazi teachers: it only takes <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>one</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> person to plant an idea and he/she can be long gone or standing on the sidelines before it takes root. This is the essence of viral marketing.<br><br><br> I'm with Hugh on this and many others: I don't believe it's accidental/coincidental rather it's the Irony of the New Millenium the ultimate inside joke....<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Paperclips and Halos

Postby Dreams End » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:59 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>This information war method of hiding politically damaging names or themes is called 'keyword hijacking.' <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>By whom? Have you seen this phrase used anywhere besides your own posts?<br><br>I'm really not dissing you, Hugh. The general idea is sound. But you make these assertions like the above and have no evidence of it. If it had read "I call this..."keyword hijacking"" then we'd say, that's an interesting theory...seems plausible. But that's not what you say, you write it as if you've seen the manual. Well, WE'D like to see the manual as well.<br><br>In conspiracy research this sort of associative thinking, looking for patterns is sometimes all we have. THEY, whoever you conceive them to be, don't always leave paper trails or detailed confessions. So I understand that. But then we are forced to say things like "it appears" or "I find this correlation compelling." <br><br>When you state things like they are simply facts that you've read in a FOIA document somewhere and then can't produce that document, you undermine your credibility.<br><br>It's a great and important avenue of research but it's important to be accurate.<br><br>By the way, either your characterization of the movie is innacurate or there is a third use of paperclips.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>An "inspirational film company" called the Johnson Group was behind the making of a documentary released by Miramax in 2004 about the use of paper clips in WWII to protest against the Nazis. The heartwarming affirmation of the spirit of resistance is called 'Paper Clips.'<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The movie is about the Tennessee kids...did they choose paperclips because of some Nazi protest during World War 2 that involved paperclips? I'm not aware of that if it's true.<br><br>The fact that they call it "Paperclip" is....well, definitely one of those things that is very suggestive. It's just not the same as proof.<br><br>By the way, you mentioned the documentary on HALO, a term I didn't know. I find it interesting that one of the biggest selling console video games of all times is called HALO, though it refers to a big space station. It's a first person shooter. I'd never heard the military term before. And since we KNOW FOR A FACT, that many video games have military connections...I mean FACT as in the game "America's Army" was actually commissioned by the US military, there's some more area for research. Which is a good phrase, by the way, that Dave Emory always uses. He will usually qualify an interesting connection by saying that it's not proof but it is "grounds for further research."<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Award-winning film company hides US-Nazi connection.

Postby professorpan » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:26 pm

Time to hijack this thread with a dose of reality.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>In 1998, assistant principal, history teacher, and football coach David Smith of Whitwell Middle School suggested to principal Linda M. Hooper that they could use the Holocaust as the basis for teaching tolerance in a voluntary afterschool program. Having difficulty in comprehending the massive scale of the Holocaust, students decided to collect 6,000,000 paper clips to represent the estimated 6,000,000 Jews killed between 1939 and 1945 under the authority of the Nazi government of Adolf Hitler.<br><br>At first the project went slowly, as it did not gain much publicity. Students created a website and sent out many letters to friends, family and total strangers. The project started snowballing after it received attention from Peter and Dagmar Schroeder, journalists who were born in Germany during World War II and who cover the White House for German newspapers. They published some articles, and a book "Das Büroklammer-Projekt" (The Paper Clip Project) in September 2000, promoting the project in Germany. The big break in the U.S. came with an article in the Washington Post on April 7, 2001.<br><br>After the article, almost every major media outlet seemed to pick up the story. Soon, millions of paper clips started to flood the school.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I see... someone from the Johnson Group, at the behest of the CIA, compromised a high school teacher, David Smith, in 1998. The MOCKINGBIRD puppeteers convinced him to use ordinary paper clips to represent Holocaust victims. Little did David Smith know that he was to become a shill in a very elaborate project... Operation PAPERCLIP'D.<br><br>That's right... the CIA/MIRAMAX/JOHNSON GROUP entity put in place a faux "grassroots" operation in Whitwell Middle School. They groomed this operation, conniving the teacher and the poor kids, into believing they were doing something positive to commemorate victims of the Nazis. Little did those pawns know they would ultimately be tools of fascists themselves...<br><br>Three years later, all is going as planned. MOCKINGBIRD controlled Washington Post "discovers" the project. Soon, the other little media birdies pick up on the story. The Weinstein Brothers, with a nudge from Langley, decide to finance CIA asset Joe Fab's short documentary and make it into a full-length feature. <br><br>Why?<br><br>So that the historical PROJECT PAPERCLIP is pushed deeper down into the collective dustbin. Anytime the phrase "paper clip" enters anyone's mind, they will (thanks to clever PSYOPS) think of the heartwarming story and not the historical integration of Nazis into the U.S. war machine.<br><br>Yes, the history of U.S./Nazi collusion has been effectively scrubbed from the record, and video store shelves are the proof. Any mass movement to purge the current fascists from power -- inflamed by growing public knowledge of PROJECT PAPERCLIP -- has been nipped in the bud.<br><br>Oh, in answer to DE's question: paper clips were worn by Nazi resisters in Norway.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=professorpan>professorpan</A> at: 7/7/06 10:40 am<br></i>
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"keyword hijacking"

Postby Dreams End » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:27 pm

Oh...I see where the term comes from. There's an internet attack that allows attackers to take the keywords that Google advertisers use so that relevant Google ads will show up on pages which display them. For example, you go to a site on Mexico and ads with keywords of "Resort vacation" show up on the side and the site gets a little $$$ if someone clicks on them.<br><br>This is the only use of the term I found that comes close and it resembles something else Hugh was worrying about earlier...<br><br>I haven't seen where it is used to do anything other than disable ads....but it is something to look into...it's just not what Hugh is talking about:<br><br><br>Opodo Promos séjours<br>        <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>                <br>(Publicité)<br><br>        05/02/05 - Publicité - Google Adwords : Des campagnes de publicité manipulées ? - Manipulated Google Adwords advertising campaigns ?...<br><br><br>Google Adwords Hijacked - Keywords Web Hosting 5 cents - HostingNews<br><br>"Google's premiere advertising unit, AdWords, appears to have been attacked over the last two days across several highly targeted keywords and strings through an approach termed keyword hijacking.<br><br>AdWords is the contextual advertising division of Google that allows an advertiser to create ads, choose keywords and pay only when someone clicks on them. The program was developed in 2000 with the official launch of AdWords Select™ taking place in January 2002. The advertising system is widely thought to be the cornerstone of Google’s revenue.<br><br>Beginning Thursday, February 3, 2005, apparently several keywords across multiple search topics have been attacked. Such search terms as “web hosting,” “irs,” “mortgage” and even “ebay” have resulted in significantly fewer AdWords contextual placements appearing in search results.<br><br>ClickRisk, a click fraud consulting service, issued a Google AdWords advisory on February 2nd that botnets are able to “shut down or seriously impair a Google Adwords advertising campaign by artificially inflating the number of times an ad is displayed.” This in turn would cause AdWords to automatically disable the targeted keywords essentially shutting down the campaign for those words.<br><br>Adam Sculthorpe, security specialist and CEO of Clickrisk.com, and his team of 19 researchers have discovered through extensive forensic testing and analysis of Google Adwords, a new type of click fraud—Keyword Hijacking. Keyword Hijacking is where an attacker disables campaign keywords to secure a higher ad position. Sculthorpe explains, “this is achieved by disabling targeted keywords across many advertisers’ campaigns simultaneously by artificially inflating the number of times an ad is displayed.”<br><br>Speculation as to the cause throughout many blogs and forums has been wide and far. One such example has regarded botnets using Google’s AdWords API beta (a service that lets applications created by developers, advertisers and third parties to more efficiently - and creatively - manage their large AdWords accounts and campaigns directly with the AdWords server) to disrupt the system. Another speculation has connected Google's recent ICANN accreditation to the AdWords attack.<br><br>The AdWords attack has potential far reaching affects. From Google investors losing ad revenue across multiple industries to the industries themselves, the dollar figure could be astronomical. Trey Gardner, Online Marketing Manager at Globat.com said “Overall hundreds of hosting providers and web hosting directories spend tens of thousands of dollars every day to attract the thousands of potential customers searching the “web hosting” key term in Google…the percentage loss of new customers today may have been greater than 15%.”..."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.strategic-road.com/confid/archiv05/special050205_1.htm">url link (to see if that works for me)</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "keyword hijacking"

Postby professorpan » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:29 pm

One basic question for you, Hugh -- what leads you to believe that the CIA is putting a vast collection of resources into covering up Operation Paperclip -- something that has been extensively documented and in the public domain since the 1980s? If the information has been readily available to the public for a very long time, why put so many resources into an elaborate plot to create a film with the purpose of obscuration?<br><br>Also, your theory has another gaping hole: Someone who enjoyed the movie <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Paper Clips</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> would be likely to go online to find out more information about the film. Someone typing in "paperclip" (an obvious search term) into Google would find information about Operation Paperclip on the first set of hits.<br><br>Just the use of the term "paper clip" or any of its variations in a film or other media context is just as likely to <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>expose</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> the CIA operation as it is to conceal it.<br><br>So... how abou them apples? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "keyword hijacking"

Postby orz » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:36 pm

Hugh; hope you'll rent it, watch it and get back to us? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "keyword hijacking"

Postby havanagilla » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:01 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>what leads you to believe that the CIA is putting a vast collection of resources into covering up Operation Paperclip<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>don't know about the rest PP, but they are. It is also public domain, the endless struggles to get them to comply with the laws and release the Nazi lists is a proof. It is documented and I will find the website for you (it was linked here several times, namely, the organizations that archives and publishes the declassified materials from the CIA). At least from the Jewish pov it seems there is a still a large cover up and that it does matter a lot to your gov, particulalry the current white house, (it is also of utter importance for the siraeli security that it IS NOT released soon).<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "keyword hijacking"

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:12 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Also, your theory has another gaping hole: Someone who enjoyed the movie Paper Clips would be likely to go online to find out more information about the film. Someone typing in "paperclip" (an obvious search term) into Google would find information about Operation Paperclip on the first set of hits.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Let's back this up with some assertiveness:<br><br>EzCode Parsing Error:=www.google.com/search?q=%22operation+paperclip%22&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> fficial">"Operation Paperclip" google search[<br><br>To be fair(and accurate), I've also added the proper film title:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hs=P0D&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22operation+paperclips%22&btnG=Search">"Operation paperclips" google search</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Examine the results for yourselves.<br><br>edit: <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>PROPER</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, proper film title has a space between 'paper' and 'clips', so here's the search as well:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&hs=RhY&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :o --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/embarassed.gif ALT=":o"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> fficial&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=%22operation+paper+clips%22&spell=1">"Operation Paper Clips" google search</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p>____________________<br>Oderint, dum metuant</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 7/7/06 12:42 pm<br></i>
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Re: "keyword hijacking"

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:19 pm

For the record, I'm pretty familiar with the concept of keyword hijacking, but I see it implemented in much broader and competent useage in things like the Men in Black films and of course, the X-Files. I can't assert that either had any deliberate, causitive directives to discredit/annul valid discussions, but they both had withering effects nonetheless.<br><br>I'd almost hope they <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>were</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> real attempts at thought sabotage, because the alternative is worse; we simply derided our own collective self-interests trading them in for entertainment value, ie: nothing at all..<br><br> <p>____________________<br>Oderint, dum metuant</p><i></i>
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Re: "keyword hijacking"

Postby orz » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:49 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>To be fair(and accurate), I've also added the proper film title:<br><br>"Operation paperclips" google search<br><br>Examine the results for yourselves.<br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Uh, where did you get that from??? the proper film title is "<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=%22paper+clips%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=">Paper Clips</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->" not operation anything...?<br><br><br>Hugh, I have to say your theory doesn't make much more sense than it did in the other thread. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START |I --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tired.gif ALT="|I"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>If this were a totally fictional movie I could begin (just maybe) to entertain such notions, but it's a documentary about an actual school project... as others have pointed out it becomes increasingly absurd as you have to assume this was somehow engineered too... <br><br>and for that matter how about we go back to: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Paper clips were chosen in part because some people from Norway wore them on their lapels as a symbol of resistance against Nazi occupation during the World War II. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> - of course, the US tricked the Norwegians into doing this so they could later organise a school project based on it which they could even later base a low budget documentary on in order to distract people from the "Project Paperclip" they were planning at the time! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Hmmm if they really wanted to stifle discussion on the subject, maybe they should have called it "Project Jkhg83bfvuwyb8fwafgwuh9(&G&g&f&o*OvF£9DFh" or something?<br><br>In the end, my main problem with this kind of idea is that it seems a ludicrously risky, complicated and inefficiant way to cover up an issue... I mean, despite all the 'connections' you haven't demonstrated any concrete way in which a fairly obscure indie documentary having the name "Paper Clips" will prevent people learning about Operation Paperclip.<br><br>Don't get me wrong, I am aware how propagandised the media is, and I love the idea of this level of insiduous paranoic secret message stuff as a PKD-esque fictional premise, but it simply doesn't ring true in your specific examples here.<br><br><br>Incidentally, the wikipedia page has "See also - Operation Paperclip" at the bottom! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> So the film will actually help MORE people learn about the Operation. Surely the CIA-funded secret 24-hour wikipedia editing team should be having a revert war with someone over that one!? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br>A few more obvious examples of Keyword Hijacking in the film industry<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> : <br>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0415199/ - unknown animator hides US-Nazi connections!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>http://www.imdb.com/company/co0045293/ - Rodney Dangerfield hides US-Nazi connections!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>http://www.imdb.com/company/co0169005/ - Canada hides US-Nazi connections!!! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "keyword hijacking"

Postby Et in Arcadia ego » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:59 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Uh, where did you get that from??? the proper film title is "Paper Clips" not operation anything...?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It apparently does in this pet theory. Of course, there's not much point in showing google results for 'paper clips', is there..<br><br>ahem. <p>____________________<br>Oderint, dum metuant</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 7/7/06 1:57 pm<br></i>
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Memory Hijacking

Postby elpuma » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:31 pm

I wonder if the Palestinians living in Gaza have "paperclips".... <p></p><i></i>
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