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*phew*..<br><br>Zappa is in a proverbial Lion's Den with some rabid fucking idiots and has them jumping through hoops over and over..I suggest you listen to these guys <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">very</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> carefully.<br><br>There's other things touched on that will be of interest to RI members..<br><br>Enjoy:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=6HljzEXJvj8">youtube.com/watch?v=6HljzEXJvj8</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>

Interesting video... Zappa just said it the way it is, and they didn't get it. <p></p><i></i>

"In some cases preferable"<br><br>The glee with which that way repeated by Lofton.<br>Lofton, who worked for the Washington Times.<br><br>And I never knew how awesome Frank Zappa was.<br>"Fascist theocracy"...the disbelief, and yet here we are.<br><br>I love it. I want more. About to watch second half. <p></p><i></i>

I'm curious - what was the particular Prince song in question? <p></p><i></i>

Nice one A! But why didn't you just drop it in the vid links? Would fit right in.<br><br>Another slither down that slope?<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/5297600.stm">Mother wins ban on violent porn</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

And don't forget that the left side of this farce is played by CIA vet Braden.... <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I'm curious - what was the particular Prince song in question?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Probably "Darling Nikki" -- with the famous verse about her sitting in a hotel lobby "masturbating with a magazine." <p></p><i></i>

The Prince song was "Sister".<br>It's about him having sex with his siter when he was 16 and she was 32.<br><br>What I find ironic is that Prince went through alot of hassle because of this song and "Darling Nikki", but years later after Sinead O'Connor ripped up a picture of the Pope on SNL (one of the greatest things I've ever seen on TV, BTW), Sinead swears that Prince, a "devout Catholic", kidnapped her and took her to his mansion, where he imprisoned her for several hours and berated her for "daring" to attack the Holy See.<br>He apparently was not happy that she had covered his song "Nothing Compares To You" and then allegedly said some things about how he was gonna "make her pay".<br><br>So he has free speech to make his crappy music, but she doesn't have the right to tell people to "fight the real enemy" and attack the man who didn't do a fucking thing about pedophilic priests?!?<br>Fuck that assclown.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

What an amusing twenty-odd minutes.<br><br>Had a handful of Zappa album in the 70s...'borrowed' by friends and never saw them again. The only thing I still have is a 12" of his early Reagan years song 'I don't wanna get drafted.'<br><br>I smiled at how Zappa looked a bit like a young Groucho Marx, with a bit of Louis XIII musketeer thrown in.<br><br>The most surprising thing about the video was how civil the show Crossfire was when still in the cable ghetto...more like a dinner party discussion rather than the camp theatre (hello Tucker Carlson et al) of the last terminal five or six years of the show's run. Actually, thinking back to Michael Kinsley and Pat Buchanan...make that a decade.<br><br>No shouting...usually plenty of time for the person talking to expand and support and idea, before being prodded to the next outrageous statement and counter-statement.<br><br>I'd point out the coming change was properly blurted out by the toad-like John Lofton of The Washington Times, Zappa's opposition, in trying to get Zappa to look or act amused:<br>"well you can fake it...".<br><br>Maybe the right picked up a thing or two from Zappa's sticking to the "...just words" line to bat away stupid points and questions. It was effective and sparse, and I'd say misinterpretted as "Let's stick to talking points like he did"; the problem was he didn't. Zappa jettisoned it when appropriately moving onto other seriously offered queries or statments. The talking point meat puppets just bray and verbally circle back, skulking again to the talking point, avoiding and closing down debate.<br><br>A Zappa laid low with cancer certainly made the world a little easier for those can't stand being questioned.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Great clip! For me tho, the spookiest thing was watching Robert Novak... he was actually one of the cooler heads in the video. I wonder, post plame, what he thinks of theological fascism, in fact anything Zappa was laying on them, now?<br>And yeah, I'd forgotten how civil those shows were before everything got 'springerized'. <p></p><i></i>