by Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:01 pm
Beware CIA men bearing limited hang-out criticisms.<br><br>'Retired' CIA analyst Ray McGovern lets slip four interesting words in an interview with Dahr Jamail posted at TruthOut.org.<br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><br>"Control of the media"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> Oops, Ray. Are you sure you meant to tell Americans they live under a system of state-controlled press?<br><br>McGovern decries the influence of Israel on US policies and then goes on to line out what he thinks Rumsfeld/Cheney might say to Bush about their situation in the middle east during the 2006 election season.<br><br>McGovern has been acting as mouthpiece for the 'liberal wing' of the CIA in criticising Bush II admin. policies while pretending that his CIA isn't the largest terrorist organization on the planet with hypocritical huffing like this-<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The whole thing is so corrupt. The whole thing is so disingenuously deceitful that it's hard to believe that our elected leaders and the people they appoint could be so corrupt.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>McGovern even minimizes CIA torture as only "12-13 guys"--<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>When the president decided he'd like the CIA to start torturing folks who were captured in Afghanistan, they came back to him and said, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"We have 12-13 people who are willing to do this, they are all special-ops guys from Vietnam and know how to do this. </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->But Mr. President, we have this little paper we'd like you to sign."<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>McGovern reinforces the bogus 9/11 cover story, too.<br><br>But, more importantly, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">I think he accidentally re-confirmed Operation Mockingbird, the CIA control of US 'mainstream media' going back to the 1950s which was exposed in the 1975-1976 Senate hearings on CIA abuses which even the complicit NYTimes had to report on to pretend they weren't a Mockingbird stronghold. The NYTimes slipped this little bombshell past the American people by printing it on Christmas Day, 1977. </span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END--> --<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/090506R.shtml">www.truthout.org/docs_2006/090506R.shtml</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Interview With Ray McGovern, Part 3<br> By Dahr Jamail<br> t r u t h o u t | Perspective<br><br> Tuesday 05 September 2006<br><br> During the Veterans for Peace National Convention in Seattle, I conducted an interview with Ray McGovern. McGovern was a CIA analyst for 27 years and is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).<br>.....<br>So what I'm saying is these people are criminally culpable, in my view, criminally liable under US Code, criminal statute for war crimes. This is something that has to worry them, and it's precisely why they are trying to change the law. They are trying to change the US War Crimes Act of 1996 to permit the kinds of things that they've already done. I've never seen the likes of it.<br><br> How does this all play out?<br><br> If I were they, I would be very receptive to a Karl Rove and a Dick Cheney who would come up and say, "Mr. President, we have to do something to prevent this. And the best thing we can think of is: you did pretty well as a war president. You like that role. So we think if we take off after Iran, because of course it is threatening Israel, and juice that as the justification and the fact that they are still trying to get a nuclear weapon - we can make people think that. Then you'll be a war president again. It's risky, these damned armed-forces guys are a bunch of cowards and warn that all hell could break loose, but look at the downside here. Let's say the Democrats take the House. We are in very deep kimshei. So this is what we advise. We advise using these smart bombs, and the Air Force guys say they can do it, even though the Army and Marines are being a bunch of wimps about this, they are afraid of having to go in and clean up after the Air Force. But the Air Force guys say they know where most of the targets are and the Israelis could start it. We could finish it up. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The domestic ramifications would be OK because of the control of the media </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->and the Israeli lobby and there's a good chance that if you could become that kind of war president, maybe it would be accompanied by a minor terrorist incident - which we could certainly arrange - you have a decent chance of hanging onto the House."<br><br> Is that Machiavellian? Is that un-American? Is that beyond the pale? Yeah, it is! But I would not put that past this crew. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 9/6/06 10:10 am<br></i>