Alex Jones: A real hero? Up close and personal

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Alex Jones: A real hero? Up close and personal

Postby darkbeforedawn » Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:47 pm

Some people have said Alex Jones is wrecking the truth movement. I found this personal account very moving and revealing. Maybe he really is a hero?<br><br>Submitted by SCAFFOLDRIDER on Sat, 09/16/2006 - 11:20am. <br>Personal Story<br> <br>I posted this on Loose Change 2 Forum, but I wanted to share it here and thank the many members who have responded to my post in the past.<br><br>On Sunday I decided I wanted to go to Cooper Hall and make it a two day<br>thing. My girl and I got there a little early, about 11:00 and wasn't<br>sure if we had the right place. I figured many would get there early<br>figuring as I did, that there would be a tremendous crowd. I wanted to get<br>my tickets and stay for a few hours and then go to ground Zero, then return<br>for the evening showing of Loose Change and hear Alex Jones speak.<br><br>We didn't see any signs or banners on the entrance and didn't<br>know if we had the right building, then I noticed a truck parked on the<br>side walk with the words, "Louder Than Words."<br><br>We waited to 12:30, when they started selling tickets, to be honest I was<br>a little surprised there wasn't more people, but thought maybe they<br>might be waiting for the evening presentation of the Loose Change movie<br>and Alex Jones.<br><br>We stayed a few hours and listened to a few of the key speakers and then<br>headed off to Ground Zero. I wasn't there ten minutes and I see a<br>crowd around Alex Jones. I didn't know what was going on, but was<br>concerned with seeing Secret Service and police around the crowd. I worked<br>my way through the crowd and there was Alex in a debate with a young Black<br>American man. I don't recall what the young man said, but it enraged<br>me to open my mouth. I yelled something to the effect, "If the EPA<br>would lie to New Yorkers about the air safety from all the toxins in the<br>soot and ash of 9/11, what makes you believe that our government<br>couldn't be involved in 9/11."<br>It got a little heated there for a while between me and this young man. I<br>tried to tell him tens of thousands are now suffered from deathly<br>illnesses and many have died already. My temper was boiling at this time,<br>I started shouting at him about all the schools in the area that were<br>reopened based on Whitman's press release about the air being safe<br>and how the 400,000 residents that live within 1 mile of Ground Zero<br>returned to their homes and cleaned up that poisonous ash and soot with a<br>damp mop and rag. It became a shouting match, back and forward, when I<br>mentioned that Bush was responsible for those statements by the EPA. The<br>man couldn't response with any decent reply, so he made the comment<br>to the effect "suck my cock." He threw me off guard with the<br>statement for a second and especially with all the cameras facing me. I<br>could only response, "This is the level of intelligence you<br>have." I tried to tell him the White House altered and cleared all<br>staements from the EPA that was to be released to the public and finally<br>the cops started to break up the crowd.<br><br>Well, that's how I met Alex Jones and Dylan Avery for the first time.<br>Alex asked me to come with him and to give an interveiw. He wanted me to<br>tell all about the kids and schools that reopened based on the EPA's<br>statement, the air and water was safe in lower Manhattan. He was<br>interested in the 400,000 residents that live within one mile of Ground<br>Zero and how they were advised to clean up with a wet mop and rag.<br><br>We crossed the street and were in front of the Century 21 Building on the<br>sidewalk and Alex stopped there and wanted the interveiw right there in<br>front of the crowd. I couldn't believe it, I never figured that. I<br>was so nervous, but I told my story about being there on 9/11 and<br>returning to Ground Zero to work, plus all about the EPA and how many<br>thousands will die directly from the EPA's and White House's<br>statements. To be honest I was so nervous in from of the camera and the<br>crowd I don't remember everything I said. Alex was cool and said I<br>did a great job and we hung out together with Dylan and the crew till we<br>rode the train back uptown to Cooper Hall. We talked a little on the<br>train, he's one hell of a guy, he's for REAL and believes in his<br>heart what he says. I got to see the personal side of him and where<br>he's from and the events that brought him to where he is today.<br>He's a powerful speaker, his mind is so shape and his retention for<br>facts and names is unbelievable.<br><br>Back at Cooper Hall, the scene was totally different than it was when I<br>left hours before. There was a large crowd outside with everyone wearing<br>the Loose Change black T-shirts. I was even more shocked when I went<br>inside, the audoritorium was packed, cameras everywhere. The evening<br>presentation was fantastic, but the morning to come was the REAL STORY.<br><br>We got there early and everyone met in a little park in front of what I<br>learned was the PET GOAT's Bank, sorry can't remember the name.<br>Well as I walked up to the park I saw the NYPD brass going up to the guys<br>holding one of our banners. The owner of the property sent two of his<br>represntatives down and wanted our banner removed from the property. Dylan<br>and Alex wasn't there yet, Dylan was doing the Popular Mechanics<br>interview, so I asked the officer's what the problem was and why only<br>our banner and not the other banners that people were displaying. I was<br>informed it was the tall sticks that were holding the banner. with that I<br>told the guys holding the banner to take the banner off the sticks and<br>hold it like the others who had banners. Well, that didn't work<br>either, the two representatives pulled the NYPD brass to the side and they<br>returned saying now they wanted "THAT" banner off the property. I<br>tried to explain this wasn't right or legal, but to no avail. Then one<br>of the LTW guys showed up and they worked something out with the cops. They<br>put together a police escort in about a half hour and allowed us to march<br>of the sidewalk across from Ground Zero with all our banners and flyers.<br>It was a beautiful site, the line was easily a few blocks long and we all<br>showed the utmost respect. We marched silently and respectfully, it was a<br>site to see with all of us in black T-Shirts.<br><br>When I later met up with Dylan, he was pumped up, people were coming up to<br>him saying they did a great job with the interview with Popular Mechanics.<br>Dylan and I hung out all day together, we put some miles on that day.<br>Dylan wanted to do an interview with me and he wanted it in a quiet area,<br>so we decided to go over to the Winter Garden where the World Financial<br>Center Buildings are.<br><br>Once we finally got across the West Side Highway and in front of WFC where<br>they had that beautiful giant American flag, we had to take a few pictures<br>of how gorgerous the flag was bellowing in the wind. Jason, Dylan's<br>camera man got some great shots of the flag and so did I. Once inside the<br>Winter Garden, which is very beautiful, we decided to go to the park<br>behind it because there was so many people there. We found a quiet spot by<br>the water with the Statute of Liberty in the back ground and we were all<br>just talking, my girl, Dylan, Jason, and myself.<br><br>We were just enjoying the moment, when a man starts walking towards us and<br>wants to ask a question. He has a NYDP pin on his jacket and wants to know<br>what why and what we are doing. It starts off in a pleasant matter and<br>turns into a debate. Jason is quietly recording the conversation, then the<br>shit begins.<br><br>Another guy comes walking over, a stock broke, and wants to say something.<br>He says we have no respect and why today, there's 364 other days for<br>this shit. Well, I try to keep my calm, especially when he says, "We<br>believe that no plane hit the WTC!" I argue with him over that and he<br>responded, "One of OUR people was preaching it to him earlier." I<br>try to be respectful and tell him that's not my beliefs or that of 99%<br>of the Truth Movement. Well, you guessed it, it got a little ugly! The<br>stock broker, the second guy tells us to get the "f*ck OUT OF<br>THERE" and something to the effect I wasn't there and don't<br>know what I'm talking about. I see "RED" and I start walking<br>after him, I tell the so called respectfully BASTARD who cares so much that<br>He couldn't even take a day off work out of respect, that I was there<br>that day and I worked Ground Zero. He says, "sure you did", I<br>got crazy, yelling at him my photos are in the Library of Congress and I<br>donated over a dozen artifacts to the 9/11 Memorial. The guy now knows he<br>picked the wrong guy and just keeps on walking, while the other guy, the<br>retired cop, holds me back. I didn't know jason filmed the whole<br>thing. Dylan thought the footage was going to be great.<br><br>Well we finally find a little spot where a small pond and some ducks were<br>and I gave Dylan his interveiw. Again, I was a nervous wreck, there was so<br>many things I wanted to say but I couldn't say them. Dylan, like Alex,<br>was kind and said the interview was great, but I know I was a nerous wreck<br>and couldn't express all the things I wanted.<br><br>We stopped for lunch in a little pizza shop on the way back to GZ, the TV<br>was on Channel 1 and we saw coverage of Our guys protesting, we were all<br>so excited to see it. I told Dylan, it would be on every News station in<br>the world, he was so pleased that the media might finally cover this in<br>the right light. Only later that night I would learn how wrong I was and<br>thought about how upset Dylan must have been sitting in his New Yorker<br>Hotel later that night going from channel to channel learning the media<br>had screwed the MOVEMENT once again!<br><br>After eating, we returned to Ground Zero and the little park where it all<br>began, that's where I finally met Jason Berma, I really like this guy<br>he's a character. as we sat in the park for a minute we heard that<br>undenable sound, which could only be started by one person, "IT WAS<br>AN INSIDE JOB." It was Alex Jones and gang around the block in front<br>of Spitzer office. Naturally we headed toward the sound, as we reached<br>Broadway, we saw a large crowd in the street. The cops had to close half<br>the street for them, it was beautiful, The Movement and Alex Jones had<br>closed down a section of Broadway.<br><br>Then it was off to Police Head Quarters, at first I thought it was a<br>terrible idea to protest there, especially in light of how the cops<br>treated us that day. But I quickly realized that the gentleman, I"m<br>sorry I don't know his name, was speaking to the crowd was thanking<br>New York's Finest and Bravest and that we understand how the<br>government failed all their sick who went to Ground Zero to help! I<br>watched the faces of the cops as the speech focused on them, it was clear<br>they were with us, yes silently for most part but totally in HEART! They<br>know what happened that terrible day and they want the TRUTH also.<br><br>Dylan and I finally sitting on the train heading for his hotel, the New<br>Yorker. It was a time of reflection, he was proud of what the day turned<br>out to be, respectfully! The video that Louder Than Words had put together<br>had touched people around the globe and with prayer and hope the Truth<br>would one day come to light.<br><br>As we said our good byes in front of the hotel, I gave him a little slap<br>on the cheek and told him, "Stay Strong, KId!" To each and<br>everyone who was there in body and those that were there in spirt, I thank<br>all of you from the bottom of my heart.<br><br>STAY STRONG! Louie<br><br>SCAFFOLD RIDER<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Alex Jones: A real hero? Up close and personal

Postby greencrow0 » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:17 pm

DBD<br><br>what a wonderful account. I was in New York in 2003 and visited those sites...it brought back memories.<br><br>Yes, I hope all these people, Alex, Dylan, Louie the scaffoldrider and the NYPD stay strong...until the truth is out.<br><br>gc <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=greencrow0>greencrow0</A> at: 9/17/06 6:18 pm<br></i>
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Alex Is Alex

Postby Pissed Off Cabbie » Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:06 pm

Well, there you have it. Alex is a good guy, doing good work. Sure, he has a lot of bravado, but he also has a lot of balls. Does anybody want Woody Allen heading this thing up? <br><br>I have an activist background, and I feel strongly that you have to get in people's faces and push buttons to get results. Merely issuing press statements and making milquetoast speeches doesn't get it.<br><br>Alex deserves a lot of respect for what he's done, and I hope people will get behind him. If they are offended by him or resentful of him, then they should seek to do better. As they used to say at Greenpeace, either lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way. And, besides, he's from Texas. What do you expect? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Alex Is Alex

Postby dbeach » Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:45 pm

thanx FOR POSTING<br><br>Wonder IF the NYPD or NYFD<br>will come forth with new facts in the near future.<br><br>TIME'S A WASTIN! <p></p><i></i>
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