Sarkozy reveals terror links

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Sarkozy reveals terror links

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:43 pm

Row over French bomb arrest claim <br> <br>Mr Clarke has vehemently denied the claims <br>Home Secretary Charles Clarke has denied some of the London bomb suspects were arrested last year. <br>French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said the UK delegation made the claim at an EU terrorism meeting. <br><br>Mr Clarke said the comments were "completely and utterly untrue", and said there had been no conversation on the issue. <br><br>Officials are adamant the men were not arrested and then released in order to break a wider network. <br><br>Mr Sarkozy said: "It seems that part of this team had been subject to partial arrest." <br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4680155.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4680155.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>This sounds terribly familiar.<br>The French leaked the connection between British security and the bombers!<br><br>And France has just closed its borders to schengen.<br>THIS IS VERY INTERESTING<br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sarkozy reveals terror links

Postby Qutb » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:52 pm

Holy crap, got a link to the Schengen story? Was an attack on Paris part of the plan?<br><br>Remember that it were the French that leaked Bin Laden's meeting with the CIA station chef in Dubai after 9/11. And, I believe, the meeting in Paris in 1996 between Bin Laden's people and the Saudi oligarchs. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=355677&in_page_id=1770&ct=5">www.dailymail.co.uk/pages...=1770&ct=5</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Bomber's uncle: 'Forces' drove him to kill<br><br>Mr Ahmed said it was hard for the family to accept their son had caused such loss of life, adding: "It wasn't him. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>It must have been forces behind him."</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <br><br>He said his nephew was intelligent, adding: "He was a very kind and calm person. He was respected by everyone." <br><br>Pakistan trip<br><br><br>Mr Ahmed said his nephew went to Pakistan for two months earlier this year to study religion. <br><br>He denied earlier reports that his nephew travelled to Afghanistan and took part in training camps. <br><br>"There is no way, I have seen his passport." <br><br>Mr Ahmed described his nephew as "calm and collected". <br><br>He added: "He was intelligent. He went to university, Leeds Met, to study sport science. His plan was to go into sports." <br><br>He added: "He had everything to live for. His parents were loving and supportive. They had no financial worries." <br><br>He said he now accepted the family may have to move away from the area. <br><br>'Proud to be British' <br><br>Mr Ahmed said his nephew, who had studied in Lahore in Pakistan, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>was "proud to be British"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. He said if he had known he was involved in any fanatical groups or organisations he would have put a stop to it. <br><br>Yesterday I actually thought this probably was pretty much what it looked like. Today, I'm a lot more suspicious.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sarkozy reveals terror links

Postby slimmouse » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:58 pm

If this is true, then the crap is truly going to hit the fan.<br><br> And Mr Sarkozy had better check his unemployment insurance amongst other policies.<br><br> Lets hope, meanwhile that there is some <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>real</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> journalists out there prepared to look into this.<br><br> I have to say that whats baffling me about this whole case at the moment is the claim that large quantities of explosives have reportedly been found at one of the homes subject to the investigation.<br><br> These guys are found with the ID on them, and then a large quantity of explosives are left, according to the commentator "perhaps to be used by another cell at a later date". Sounds completely nonsensical to me. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Sarkozy reveals terror links

Postby antiaristo » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:05 pm

The Home Secretary last year was David Blunkett. Blunkett lost a lot of support when he bad-mouthed his colleagues in a book. He was caught "fixing" something for a pal and had to resign. He was allowed to stay on in his luxurious accomodation. He was paid 18000 pounds for loss of position. He is now back in the Cabinet.<br><br>Clarke might well have been bad-mouthing Blunkett, and fucked up<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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french revenge for UK euro meddling?

Postby hmm » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:57 pm

the UK isnt making itself popular with its joined-at-the-hip with the USA game either.. <p></p><i></i>
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forgot to add this

Postby hmm » Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:03 pm

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1527429,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/attack...29,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Ten days ago Shahzad Tanweer, a 22-year-old British Asian, was playing cricket in the local park with his friends. It was something he loved to do. He was a sporty young man who loved martial arts, drove his dad's Mercedes and had many friends in the Beeston area of Leeds.<br><br>"He is sound as a pound," said Azi Mohammed, a close friend. "The idea that he was involved in terrorism or extremism is ridiculous. The idea that he went down to London and exploded a bomb is unbelievable.<br><br>"I only played cricket in the park with him around 10 days ago. He is not interested in politics." <p></p><i></i>
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when I read about that lad, I think ....

Postby maggrwaggr » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:50 am

just read the guardian article about the boy.<br><br>I think he met a girl. <br><br>Think about it. When you're that age, and you're a boy, the one thing that can completely change your life is a chick.<br><br>"Can you carry this backpack for me? I'll meet you later." (peck on the cheek, flirtatious smile) "Thanks!"<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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"It must have been forces behind him"

Postby psyop samurai » Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:58 am

"Forces behind him" sounds about right.<br><br>There's a lot of smoke and mirrors here, folks...<br><br>Aside from the dubious nature of the suspects' identification (see Bismillah's post)...<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p097.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm7.showMessage?topicID=634.topic">p097.ezboard.com/frigorou...=634.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"France's interior minister had not been referring to any of the four suspected bombers but to other members of a network to which they belonged, the spokesman added."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>...and so it goes. 'Round and 'round. The "scandalous wiff" of "incompetence" provides new meat, while helping to solidify the suspects as perpetrators in the public mind. It looks like a dog and pony show to me - misdirection. "Look over here..., no, over here."<br><br>We gotta take this one step at a time. How do we know the "suspects" belonged to this "network"? We don't. How do we know this "network" isn't another chimera? <br><br>Be careful out there. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=psyopsamurai@rigorousintuition>psyop samurai</A> at: 7/14/05 2:04 am<br></i>
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Sarkozy

Postby antiaristo » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:04 pm

Sarkozy is in Madrid today. What's interesting is that he is not with Alonso, the Interior Minister. He's with Zapatero.<br><br>And I'm not sure whether or not I'm hallucinating, but they are NOW claiming the bombs were made in the kitchen with chemicals from the local hardware store.<br><br>THIS THING STINKS <p></p><i></i>
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Madsen: Some Londoners Suspect Rightwing Britons ...

Postby Starman » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:46 pm

INteresting ...<br><br>The thing about 2 bombs discovered with mechanical timers sure queers the recieved wisdon about the London Bombings being an 'Al Queda' plot --<br><br>Also reports about 'military explosives' being used --<br>And surveillance of communication reveals known terrorist cells expressing total surprise ...<br>And the 'suspects' having given NO indication they're esp. political let alone capable of such crimes ...<br><br>Taken together with the many oddities of previous 'terrorist' bombers, the London bombings sure give one cause to reconsider what its REALLY all about --<br><br>IMHO, False-Flag ops.<br><br>Thruthelookinglass's link to 'Cut-outs, moles, patsies and prococateurs' is an excellant article, IMO -- Thaks t!;<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://rasputin.gnn.tv/blogs/7306/Cut_outs_moles_patsies_and_provocateurs">rasputin.gnn.tv/blogs/730...ovocateurs</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>BO7306 posted:<br>"I have tried, without success, to find a single bombing attributed to “Al-Qaeda” that hasn’t been “masterminded” (according to terrorism “experts” and their mouthpieces in the press) by an informant connected to some or other intelligence agency. <br><br>"This may suggest a modus operandi on the part of either Al-Qaeda, the intelligence agencies with which her members so frequently interface, or both. In the case of the CIA and Al-Qaeda, it is becoming increasingly difficult to separate the goals, strategies and even membership of these two groups, despite their alleged, bitter and mutual enmity. The convergence of personnel and the remarkable proclivity of Al-Qaeda to promote Anglo-American/Israeli business interests by blowing things up or issuing communiqués just at the right time and just at the right place has led to the now popular term “Al-CIA-Duh”. "<br><br>In all, an EXCELLANT article with numerous cites and quotes following the clues suggesting most of the notorious terrorist acts of our recent history have been planned, covered-up, facilitated or actually done by actors very closely linked with the US, Israel or GB.<br><br>And now we have the suspicious London Bombings -- If only this was the straw that broke the camel's back, and made the Sheeple look UP.<br>Starman<br>******<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MAD20050715&articleId=697">www.globalresearch.ca/ind...icleId=697</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Some believe London bombers were right-wing Britons<br>by Wayne Madsen<br> <br>July 15, 2005 <br>Online Journal <br><br>Some informed British sources believe that the recent London Transport bombings may have been the work of far right-wing British terrorists hoping to stir up tensions with the nation's large Muslim population.<br><br>There are several reasons for this belief. One is that GCHQ and MI-5 intercepts of the communications of Muslim groups in Britain and abroad—groups suspected of ties to militants—revealed that targeted individuals and organizations were genuinely surprised at the London bombings. Another is the statement of former Metropolitan London police commissioner Sir John Stevens that the perpetrators were "almost certainly" British. Although many accused Stevens of stirring up racial tensions, he never referred to British Muslims. British Prime Minister Tony Blair ruled out any probe of the bombings claiming it would "distract" from the investigation.<br><br>Although U.S. and some British media were quick to point blame at Muslim terrorists, little has been mentioned about David Copeland who set off a nail bomb in the Admiral Duncan pub on Old Compton Street in London's Soho in April 1999. The bomb killed three and injured 139. Copeland, a 22-year old electrical engineer and native of Hampshire, wanted to start a war against non-whites and homosexuals and believed he was a messenger from God. Copeland had a fascination with Adolf Hitler and dreamt of being an SS commander holding women sex slaves. Copeland was also charged with setting off nail bombs in an Afro-Caribbean neighborhood in Brixton and a Bangladeshi district in Brick Lane. The British police dismissed a claim of responsibilty for the Soho bombing by a fascist group called the White Wolves, emphasizing that Copeland acted alone. It is also significant that when he planned his terrorist bombings, Copeland worked as an electrician on the London Underground's Jubilee Line extension project. Copeland was sentenced to six life terms in prison for the bombings.<br><br>There are reports that some members of British law enforcement and intelligence maintain a liaison with British fascist groups who are mainly centered in the Kentish Town neighborhood of north London, a neighborhood rife with Nazi posters, stickers, and graffiti. In addition to Kentish Town, Roetherhithe and Eltham in southeast London are bevies of fascist activities. British fascist groups include the British National Front, National Socialist Movement, and ex-members of Ulster paramilitary loyalist groups. Another fascist group, Combat 18, was established in 1992 as a security force for the National Front. It was later discovered that MI-5 had infiltrated Combat 18 to slip informants into loyalist paramilitary cells in Northern Ireland.<br><br>Informed observers also point to the David Tovey case. In 2002, police searched Tovey's Oxfordshire home in an investigation to find the source of a spate of racist graffiti. According to The Guardian, police discovered much more than spray paint cans in Tovey's home: an arsenal of weapons (including a Baikal pistol with silencer), explosives (including PE4 plastic explosive, which is used by the British Army), bomb making equipment, NATO body armor, maps where mosques were located, British National Front literature, and license plate numbers of African and Asian individuals. Police learned that Tovey was involved in a right-wing gang that was placing anti-white graffiti in public toilets in Warwickshire and Oxfordshire. As with Copeland, police said they determined Tovey was a loner.<br><br>On July 12, The Times of London revealed that the explosives used in the London Transport bombings were military-grade explosives and investigators emphasized they believed the bombers were British and worked in small cells. Furthermore, although the British police are putting out information that suicide bombers were involved in the London bombings, Vince Cannistraro, the former CIA counter-terrorism chief, told The Guardian that "two unexploded bombs" were recovered along with "mechnical timing devices." It goes without saying that suicide bombers would not have been using timing devices.<br><br>The belief that British right-wing terrorists may have carried out the London train bombings coincides with a major Italian investigation of ties between far-right Italian groups, Italian law enforcement personnel, U.S. Defense Department covert operations agents, and Jihadist terrorists.<br><br>Wayne Madsen is a Washington, DC-based investigative journalist and nationally-distributed columnist. He is author of the forthcoming book, "Jaded Tasks: Big Oil, Black Ops & Brass Plates." He is the editor and publisher of the Wayne Madsen Report.<br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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