1 degree of separation: Al-Qaida terror message & neocon

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1 degree of separation: Al-Qaida terror message & neocon

Postby hmm » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:51 pm

To prove to myself a gut-feeling i had, i played a funny game with a al-qaida terror message.<br>If i can do this,make this connection based on a single news item, think of all that this implies.<br><br>the news item:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.184286030&par=0">www.adnki.com/index_2Leve...6030&par=0</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"TERRORISM: AL-ZARQAWI CALLS WOMEN TO JIHAD<br>        <br>Baghdad, 6 July (AKI) - The latest audio message, purporting to be from Jordanian militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, has called on Muslim women to play a more active role in the Jihad or Holy War. The one-hour-long speech, posted on Islamist Internet forums, is entitled 'Religion declines and I am still alive'.<br>~snip~<br>The message confirms al-Qaeda's strategy of involving Muslim women in its terror activities, as first indicated nearly a year ago on an al-Qaeda-linked website, Al-Khansa, targeted at a female audience."<br><br>It was this Al-Khansa,the al-qaida's female terrorists story that caught my attention.<br>It turns out there is a Al-Khansa but its a Palestinian womens association doing the things that womens organisations do worldwide if one is to believe their innocent looking website.<br><br>So i moved on to the two stories in the western media mentioning Al-Khansa that came up first on google.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3594982.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middl...594982.stm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.washtimes.com/world/20050117-122001-8417r.htm">www.washtimes.com/world/2...-8417r.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The bbc article offers only this as a further clue:<br><br>"The magazine says it is published by an organisation called "The Women's Media Bureau in the Arabian Peninsula"."<br><br>The washington Times article's source for the Al-Khansa information is "Italy's SISDE secret service"<br>This is the sister organisation of SISME that gave the USA the iraqi yellowcake "intelligence".<br><br>but thats not close enough for me so i googled my bbc clue and this is where it got even more interesting:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.memri.de/uebersetzungen_analysen/themen/islamistische_ideologie/isl_qaidawomen_08_09_04.htm">www.memri.de/uebersetzung..._09_04.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"The new online magazine Al-Khansaa [1] is published by Al Qa'ida's Arabian Peninsula Women's Information Bureau. The first issue features articles calling on women to participate in Jihad, along with an article criticizing women in Saudi television. The following are excerpts from the articles: [2]<br>~snip all the BS~<br>[2] The website is presently not online, but MEMRI has a copy of the magazine."<br><br>The website is not online anymore but rest assured, MEMRI has a copy.So who is MEMRI?<br>I only need a quote from respected scholar Juan Cole to illustrate:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3898">antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3898</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"MEMRI was founded by a retired Israeli colonel from military intelligence, and co-run by Meyrav Wurmser, wife of David Wurmser. David Wurmser is close to the Likud Party in Israel and served in Douglas Feith's Office of Special Plans in the Pentagon, where he helped manufacture the case that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and was linked to al-Qaeda.<br>~snip~<br>MEMRI is funded to the tune of $60 million a year by someone, and it is a sophisticated anti-Arab propaganda machine."<br><br>David Wurmser currently works for Dick Cheney.<br>I have tried to keep it simple for maximum impact but there is much more flesh to this story.<br><br>the people that need there to be an Al-Qaida bring us Al-Qaida,the people that faked the reasons for war on iraq bring us more fakes?<br><br>some more background:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.juancole.com/2004/11/intimidation-by-israeli-linked.html">www.juancole.com/2004/11/...inked.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,773258,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/elsewh...58,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=David_Wurmser">www.sourcewatch.org/wiki....id_Wurmser</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.al-khansa.org/english/about.html">www.al-khansa.org/english/about.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.al-khansa.org/english/projects.html">www.al-khansa.org/english/projects.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>if that isnt enough Meyrav Wurmser co-wrote the infamous "Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" (see sourcewatch link)<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Propaganda, Public-Brainwashing and Socal Conditioning

Postby Starman » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:41 pm

Hmm.<br><br>Very auspiciously suspicious, alright. Whose 'ends' do such propaganda serve? Follow the money ...<br><br>Your post made me reflect on how the mainstream US media has essentially completely ignored and censored all reports that many if not most of the infamous Osama bin Laden video 'confessions' have been pretty-conclusively shown to be either grossly mistranslated or out-and-out forgeries. It isn't that MSM has an obligation to either prove or prove the claims, but they haven't even given the public the option of understanding that there ARE questions about the authenticity of these tapes in which the US official bias clearly is that they are bonafide and unchallenged confessions of responsibility for 911, instigating an all-out war of terrorism against the infidel West.<br><br>Another huge ommission is the MSM's failure to inform or remind the public that the US was responsible for the overthrow of Iraq's moderate President and installing the hardliner Ba'athe party simply because they promised to carry-out America's virulent anti-Communist policy in the Middle East -- and assisting the US's policy of impeding and confounding pan-Arab nationalism which would lead to stronger Arab regional links and cooperation, representing a potential hazard to Israel's defensive security. <br><br>As part of the US's historic meddling and interference in Iraq's domestic affairs is its pivotal role in assuring Saddam's rise to power -- The US is directly responsible for bringing Saddam to power against the will and interests of Iraq's citizens, which is a complete and utter travesty of America's CLAIMED support for self-rule democracy. What is SO bizarre is that so many Americans can be so ignorant about such a basic and central issue which goes to the heart of Arab distrust and resentment for US's true goals -- they've suffered terribly as a direct result of US political duplicity. <br><br>How much good-will and highly-motivated cooperation has been sabotaged by several decades of horribly misguided, underhanded, and manipulative scheming for alterior motives by American politicos, diplomats and foreign policy officials? That's what I find so unconscionable -- there's absolutely NO good reason why the 'problems' of the Middle East needed to happen or would have been inevitable. <br><br>And I also hold the US public accountable for those who haven't bothered to find the real history of US/Middle East relations and so understand what the issues are, and why the US is NOT warmly embraced by most of the people of Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, and elsewhere -- especially following the atrocious lies and scheming by which the Bush thugs made the Afghan and Iraq wars their top agenda. It still amazes me that so many dumb Americans rationaliuze the Iraq war as a legitimate response to 911. Such prideful ignorance and contempt for truth thoroughly disgusts and offends me --But I think it really reveals the kind of subtle mind-control conditioning the public has been subjected to. <br><br>Peachtree Pam posted a very intriguing rense.com website article by a Dr. Coleman that discusses this to a significant extent -- although I find some of his specific conclusions pretty tenous, such as that the Beatles were part of a complex plot to overwhelm conventional morals and introduce an Aquarian Age system of contrary and defeatist values, etc. -- but overall, his thesis is worth consideration. <br><br>I also object to his making reactionary value-added judgements and some of his more extreme intolerance for lifestyle choices and sexual orientation are repugnant -- he seems to relate creative variety and self-expression as anathema to a strong, vital, dynamic society; In short, I think he makes short-cut errors in his zeal to provide compelling evidence for his claims, indicting LSD and Rock-n-Roll and the 60s Peace and Love and anti-war movement and 'liberalism' in general as contributing to social decline. But in other cases, he correctly I think identifies such things as the example of double-standards of respect for law unless you can get away with it as one of the many mixed-messages that confounds and overwhelms people. <br><br>There's a lot in the article to reflect on as well to criticize, such as its evident appeal to a kind of oversimplistic John Birch/Super Christian morality. Apparently written about 91-92 during the end of Bush 41's reign -- things have 'deteriorated' quite a bit more since, as Dr. Coleman probably couldn't even imagine at the time that George Bush's gaddamned incompetant spoiled-brat SON would become president eight short years later -- if by-crook as it turned out. But the ongoing conditioning of the public under Clinton, with 'shocking' WH sex-claims and Heidi Fleiss' popular semi-officially-condoned sex-ring callgirl scandal and the Whitewater witchhunt that innoculated the public against further presidential impeachment hearings, and a whole bunch other stuff I can't even remember right now. (Help me out?)<br><br>Ennyway...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rense.com/politics5/300.htm">www.rense.com/politics5/300.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>Tavistock Institute and Heirarchy of Control<br><br>--excerpt--<br>I was privileged to receive a copy of "THE CHANGING IMAGES OF MAN" from my intelligence colleagues five days after it was accepted by the United States government. What I read shocked me, as I realized I was looking at a blueprint for a future America, unlike anything I had ever seen before. The nation was to be programmed to change and become so accustomed to such planned changes that it would hardly be noticeable when profound changes did occur. We have gone downhill so fast since "THE AQUARIAN CONSPIRACY" (the book title of Willis Harmon's technical paper) was written, that today, divorce draws no stigma, suicide is at an all time high and raises few eyebrows, social deviations from the norm and sexual aberrations, once unmentionable in decent circles, are now commonplace and excite no special protest. <br> <br>As a nation we have not noticed how "CHANGING IMAGES OF MANKIND" has radically altered our American way of life forever. Somehow we were overcome by the "Watergate Syndrome." For a while we were shocked and dismayed to learn that Nixon was nothing but a cheap crook who hobnobbed with Earl Warren's Mafia friends at the beautiful home they built for him adjoining the Nixon estate. When too many "future shocks" and news headlines demanded our attention, we lost our way, or rather, the huge number of choices with which we were and still are daily confronted, confused us to such a degree that we were no longer able to make the necessary choices. <br> <br>Worse yet, having been subjected to a barrage of crimes in high places, plus the trauma of the Vietnam War, our nation seemed no longer to want truths. Such reaction is carefully explained in Willis Harmon's technical paper, in short, the American nation was reacting exactly as profiled. Worse yet, in not wishing to accept truth, we took matters a step further: We looked to government to shield us from the truth. <br> <br>The corrupt stench of the Reagan-Bush Administrations we wanted covered with six feet of earth. The crimes committed under the title of Iran/Contra affair (or scandals), we didn't want uncovered. We let our President lie to us regarding his where abouts in the period October 20-23rd, 1980. Yet these crimes far exceed in quantity and scope anything Nixon did while he was in office. Do we as a nation recognize it as going downhill with our brakes off? <br> <br>No, we do not. When those whose business it is to bring the truth to the American people that a private, well-organized little government inside the White House was busy committing one crime after another, crimes which attacked the very soul of this nation and the republican institutions upon which it rested, we were told not to bother the public with such things. "We really don't want to know about all this speculation," became a standard response. <br> <br>When the highest elected official of the land blatantly put U. N. law above the Constitution of the United States--an impeachible offense, the majority accepted it as "normal." When the highest elected official of the land went to war without a Congressional declaration of war, the fact was censored out by the news media and, again, we accepted it rather than face the truth. <br> <br>When the Gulf War, which our President plotted and planned, began, not only were we happy with censorship of the most blatant kind, we even took it to our hearts, believing that it was "good tor the war effort." Our President lied, April Glaspie lied, the State Department lied. They said the war was justified because President Hussein had been warned to leave Kuwait alone. When Glaspie's cables to the State Department were finally made public, one United States Senator after another went charging to defend Glaspie, the harlot. It mattered not that they came from both the Democrats and the Republicans. We, the people, let them get away with their vile lies. <br> <br>In this public attitude of the American people, the wildest dreams of Willis Harmon and his teams of scientists became a reality. The Tavistock Institute was elated at its success in destroying the self respect and self esteem of this once great nation. We are told that we won the Gulf War. What is not yet perceived by the vast majority of Americans is that, in winning the war, it cost the self respect and honor of our nation. That lies rotting in the desert sands of Kuwait and Iraq, alongside the corpses of the Iraqi soldiers we butchered in the agreed retreat from Kuwait and Basra--we could not keep our word that we would abide by the Geneva Conventions and not attack them. "What do you want," our controllers asked us, "victory or self respect? You can't have both." <br> <br>One hundred years ago, this could not have happened, but now it has happened and excites no comment. We have succumbed to the long range penetration warfare waged against this nation by Tavistock. Like the German nation, defeated by the Prudential Bombing Survey, enough of us have succumbed to make this nation the kind that totalitarian regimes of the past would have only envisaged in their dreams. "Here," they would say, "is a nation, one of the largest in the world, that doesn't want the truth. All of our propaganda agencies can be dispensed with. We don't have to struggle to keep the truth from this nation, they have willingly rejected it of their own volition. This nation is a pushover." <br> <br>Our once proud Republic of the United States of America became no more than a series of criminal front organizations, which history shows is always the start of totalitarianism. This is the stage of permanent alteration we are at in America as 1991 drew to a close. We live in a throw-away society, programmed not to last. We do not even flinch at the 4 million homeless nor the 30 million jobless, nor the 15 million babies murdered thus far. They are "throw-aways" of the Age of Aquarius, a conspiracy so damnable that, when first confronted with it, the majority will disavow its existence, rationalizing these events as "times have changed." <br> <br>This is how the Tavistock Institute and Willis Harmon programmed us to react. Dismantling of our ideals goes on without protest. The spiritual and intellectual drive of our people has been destroyed! On May 27th, 1991, President Bush made a very profound statement, the thrust of which appears to have been totally misused by most political commentators: <br> <br>"The moral dimension of American policy requires us to chart a moral course through a world of lesser evils. That is the real world, not black and white. Very few moral absolutes." <br> <br>What else could we expect from a President who is most probably the most evil man ever to occupy the White House? <br> <br>Consider this in the light of his order to the military to bury alive 12,000 Iraqi soldiers. Consider this in the light of his ongoing war of genocide against the Iraqi people. President Bush was delighted to characterize President Saddam Hussein as the "Hitler of our times." He never bothered to offer a single scrap of proof. It was not needed. Because President Bush made the statement, we accepted it without question. Consider this in the bright light of truth, that he did all of these things in the name of the American people while secretly taking his orders from the Committee of 300. <br> <br>But, more than anything else, consider this: President Bush and his controllers feel so secure that they no longer deem it necessary to hide their evil control of the American people, or to lie about it. This is self-evident in the statement that he, as our leader, will make all manner of compromises with truth, honesty and decency if his controllers (and ours) deem it necessary. On May 27th, 1991, the President of the United States abandoned each and every principle embodied in our Constitution and boldly proclaimed that he was no longer bound by it. This is a great victory for the Tavistock Institute and the Prudential Bombing Survey, whose target changed from German worker housing in 1945 to the soul of the American people in a war that began in 1946 and runs through to 1992. <br> <br>Increased pressure on this nation for change was applied by Stanford Research Institute in the early 1960's. SRl's offensive gathered power and momentum. Switch on your television set and you will see Stanford's victory in front of your very eyes: talk shows featuring heavy sexual details, special video channels where perversion, rock and roll and drugs reign supreme. Where once John Wayne ruled, we now have a made-over apology for a man (or is he?) called Michael Jackson, a parody of a human being who is held up as a hero, as he gyrates, shuffles, mumbles and screams his way across television screens in millions of American homes. <br> <br>A woman who has been through a series of marriages gets national coverage. One filthy, half-washed drug-ridden deca-lent rock band after another has hours of air time devoted to its inane sounds and mad gyrations, clothes fashions and language aberrations. Soap operas showing as near as "dammit" is to wearing pornographic scenes draw no comment. Whereas in early 1960 this would never have been tolerated, today it is accepted as normal. We have been subjected and we have succumbed to what Tavistock Institute calls "future shocks" whose future is NOW and we are so numbed by one cultural shock after another that to protest seems like a futile gesture and, therefore, logically we think, it does no good to protest. <br> <br>In 1986 the Committee of 300 ordered the pressure turned up. The U.S. was not going down fast enough. The United States began the process of "recognizing" the butchers of Cambodia, the criminal Pol Pot regime, self confessors to the murder of 2 million Cambodian citizens. In 1991, the wheel turned the full circle. The United States went to war against a friendly nation that had been programmed to trust the Washington traitors. We accused President Hussein of the small nation of Iraq of all manner of evil, NONE OF WHICH WAS EVEN REMOTELY TRUE. We killed and maimed its children, we left them to starve and to die of all manner of diseases. <br><br>--end quote--<br><br>Keep in mind the Thesis, Counterthesis and Synthesis model of elite manipulation of social issues/agenda in regards to mind-control practices described in the article, which I highly recommend reading for insights on what might more accurately be called broadband-channel mass-media public brainwashing. One can readily surmise that a lot of the Fascist scientists and Intelligence professionals smuggled out of Europe and brought to the US after the war and put-to-work for the military-industrial complex or more-directly absorbed into the OSS/CIA, brought along with them many lessons learned in manipulating the German people to endorse Hitler even though he appealed to the people's most base instincts;<br><br>Starman<br>BTW: Thanks again for the Link, PeachtreePam! <p></p><i></i>
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i dont like the word brainwashing

Postby hmm » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:04 pm

but if you want to call it that you can.<br>Some of the largest "conspiracies" are the open ones. Once you become aware the coded messages in our media jump out at you.<br>There is alot of "reality" being created.<br>The danger is once one figures this out one could fall easily into one of two traps,<br>insanity,which needs little elaboration and<br>confusion,thanks to the disinformation and distraction industry.<br>who told "you" the mainstream media's purpose was to inform you?and why did they tell you?who told them?<br><br>but understanding one is conditioned and finding ways to "break out" without breaking down is a real challenge if i look around me at the people in the "real world" <p></p><i></i>
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