Plague-infected mice missing from NJ lab

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Plague-infected mice missing from NJ lab

Postby Fearless » Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:50 pm

Plague-Infected Mice Missing From N.J. Lab<br><br>Sept. 15, 2005 — The FBI and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are investigating the disappearance from a New Jersey research lab of at least three mice carrying a deadly strain of plague.<br><br>The rodents have been missing for two weeks. <br> <br>Sources say FBI agents and bioterrorism experts are interviewing and polygraphing employees at the University of Medicine and Dentistry in Newark, N.J., the location of the lab run by the Public Health Research Institute, a leading center for research on infectious diseases.<br><br>There are no indications of terrorism.<br><br>"The FBI responded to the matter, and we dedicated a great number of agents as well as a large number of resources to the investigation, which is still ongoing," said Special Agent Steve Siegel, a spokesman for the FBI's Newark field office. "We're satisfied that there is no public safety risk and there doesn't seem to be any nexus to criminal activity or terrorism."<br><br>New Jersey officials also are downplaying the health risk. They believe the infected mice probably died quickly.<br><br>...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=1128953">abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=1128953</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Plague-infected mice missing from NJ lab

Postby Nymarya » Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:15 pm

This sounds like a black-comic end-of-the-world book by Gore ("Kalki") Vidal or Kurt ("Cat's Cradle") Vonnegut...end of civilization due to a mouse.<br><br>Ever since I read "The Hot Zone" I think it was, where the monkeys got loose who MIGHT have had Ebola...and worked in a facility that had in fact been a Level IV containment area where everyone was always sick, even young healthy kids who worked out all the time...and where we joked about the Ebola monkey who was still lurking at the back of the parking lot...I've been waiting for something like this.<br><br>I worked in a university med school lab and a lab rat who was critical to someone's study--they needed this little fella for their grant and everything--got loose. He wasn't infected with anything, they had been experimenting with inducing sores to study topical medications on his skin. The researchers went to every office looking for him and telling people to call ASAP if they glimpsed him. I said "Sure" and prayed that he would come to me and I could save him, name him Templeton (after the rat in "Stuart Little"), take him home and let his wounds heal and then find him a good home (rats are very smart and affectionate pets, but I had cats.) As far as I know he was never found, I hope he got outside and made some kind of rat-life for himself.<br><br>This med school, by the way, had an underground unmarked animal experimentation facility beneath the parking lot that you entered via a Get-Smart/Man from UNCLE elevator, the doors were locked and bullet proof and you needed a pass to get in. One of the secretaries told me once she had to deliver something there and the cries of animals made HER cry; the next time she had to go she asked me to go with her as moral support, so I saw this for myself. That time we didn't go in, someone came out and got the envelope she had. I asked her if she knew why the secrecy, she said they were afraid of being picketed by PETA. Right. I no longer work there but when I visit hospital patients there I look at that innocent looking parking lot and it creeps me out wondering what they are actually doing down there.<br><br>Some days I just feel humans are so vile, I wish for a pestilence that would kill only us and leave the animals and the rest of nature to regenerate itself without our depredations. You go, plague rat.<br><br>The Fourteenth Book of Bokonon:<br><br>Title: What Can a Thoughtful Man Hope for Mankind on Earth, Given the Experience of the Past Million Years?<br><br>Only verse: Nothing.<br><br>~Kurt Vonnegut, "Cat's Cradle" <p>=======<br>Oh, I enjoy an egg myself, yes. They don't make good pets, though; you can never get them in at night. <br> ~Doctor Pratt (played by Peter Sellers), "The Wrong Box"</p><i></i>
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Re: Plague-infected mice missing from NJ lab

Postby Dreams End » Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:18 pm

Well, at least rodents don't have anything to do with how the plague is spread. A quick search on the "Black Death" and rodents reveals....<br><br>Oh crap..... <p></p><i></i>
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IIRC

Postby Fearless » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:19 pm

Isn't the plague spread by the fleas of rats? The fleas bite the infected rat, the fleas bite humans. I think. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: IIRC

Postby Dreams End » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:54 pm

Yes, that's what I was referring to...in a strange mood today. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Plague-infected mice missing from NJ lab

Postby DrDebugDU » Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:19 pm

Welcome nymarya. You have added some wonderful conversation.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Some days I just feel humans are so vile, I wish for a pestilence that would kill only us and leave the animals and the rest of nature to regenerate itself without our depredations. You go, plague rat.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>They detach. In university there were some people who did this as part of their cancer research. They were nice, friendly people. They told me that during their study they killed about 300 mice. And we are talking about normal people which you can have fun with and which weren't stupid at all, but the life of mice didn't matter that much and that the protocol required several mice to be killed per day so they could be disected had become a normal routine. The first couple of mice were hard but after a while it turned into a normal routine.<br><br>They also said sometimes a mouse would escape and there were mouse traps all over the research center, so this story about the mice having escaped doesn't surprise me... <p></p><i></i>
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