I think PNAC is a bit of a smokescreen...

by **thumper** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:06 pm

"I think the American World Order is Plan A since it had the best chance of succeeding, however the American World Order isn't exclusively American, it is the globalists (bankers, corporations, royalty, BFEE etc.) who are pushing it." I think we're seeing a repeat of history. America is now being set up as the new Nazi Germany. Why else would we see images of Abhu Graib being leaked from so called 'imbedded reporters' or because they were 'accidently uploaded onto the internet.' A New World Order needs moral leverage. America doesn't have that. In fact, it appears downright evil right now. As for who will represent the antithesis 'Allies' side, I guess that will be the rest of the entire world???

by **DrDebugDU** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:14 pm

Allies will appear to be Europe/Japan, but that's Bilderberg/Trilateral territory as well and they'llbe pushing for the NWO under UN. The world is already one. Go to a random city anywhere in the world and ask the following question: "Where is the McDonalds?" and they'll tell you where it is. Order a Coke. They'll give it you. And even if the names appear differently, remember it's the same companies who are behind it eventually... The best way to look at it is to look at the non-food section of the supermarket. You'll notice many different labels and companies. Check out who is behind them and you'll notice that the choice is Proctor & Gamble and Unilever. If they stuck to their original names they could conquer only 1/3 of the market, by using artificial brand names those two companies managed to get 2/3 of the market...

by **eric144** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:37 pm

I think the plan is to create a world authority on the basis of total global disarmamernt following a near holocaust conflict - US/UK/NATO/Israel Vs The Rest. This will be the end of war because only the world authority will have weapons.It will also be the end of history in the sense that those who are in control when the music stops will make the rules for the future. Much like the Anglo American empire made the rules post WWII. People will think they've arrived in some new age star trek script but behind the scenes the same criminal octopus will be tightening its grip. If George Soros (or similar) gets elected king of the world, I'm leaving. This is from Tony Blair and is a manifesto for the New World Order <a href="http://www.newecon.org/blairspeech10-2-01.html">www.newecon.org/blairspeech10-2-01.html</a> This is a moment to seize. The Kaleidoscope has been shaken. The pieces are in flux. Soon they will settle again. Before they do, let us re-order this world around us. Today, humankind has the science and technology to destroy itself or to provide prosperity to all. Yet science can't make that choice for us. Only the moral power of a world acting as a community, can. "By the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more together than we can alone."

by **Watchful Citizen** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:34 pm

It would appear that the Nazi Master Race plan to conquer the world has been moving along unimpeded for about 80 years. The PNAC are just the latest torch bearers burning down our global village. I wonder how we tell all those WWII veterans that the Nazis won and are about to stop their social security checks? This 1945 article called 'The Plot Against the Peace' describes German elite planning as many wars as necessary to take their spoils as the 'Master Race,' that is, world domination. <a href="http://maebrussell.com/Plot%20Against%20The%20Peace/Plot%20Against%20The%20Peace.html">maebrussell.com/Plot%20Ag...Peace.html</a> This lengthy and thorough article describes the infusion of Nazi war criminals into the US government, CIA, West Germany, and NATO after Hitler lost WWII. The ticks of war merely changed hosts. <a href="http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/randy/swas1.htm">emperors-clothes.com/arti.../swas1.htm</a> Air Force-CIA liason L. Fletcher Prouty described the CIA coup against the American Republic in the 1950s following a 1949 blueprint written by Allen Dulles, one of the biggest supporters of the Nazis in America.. <a href="http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ST.html">www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ST.html</a> <a href="http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/STchp9.html">www.ratical.org/ratville/...Tchp9.html</a> "The Dulles-Jackson-Correa report was the CIA Mein Kampf. In this study, Dulles described exactly how he would lead the Agency from a low-key intelligence coordination center to a major power center in the U.S. Government, and in the process, how he would become the closest adviser to the President. He foretold the existence of a vast secret intelligence organization, a top echelon clandestine operations facility at White House level, a hidden infrastructure throughout other departments and agencies of the Government, and the greatest clandestine operational capability the world had ever known primarily based upon the exploitation of military manpower, money, and facilities all over the world." >snip<

by **thumper** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:22 am

I don't see how there's a 'Master Race' program going on, especially when all the western countries are so enamored with the ideals of multi-culturalism. Did you mean something completely different?

by **Watchful Citizen** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:32 am

It's the US that is the Fourth Reich, Europe got over that disease called fascism. Europe sees this and realizes it is the same old shit different dictator. But with a military budget the size of the rest of the world's pointed at them with no FDR to save them..

by **thumper** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:51 am

well call it fascism then. You threw in 'Nazi Master Race' program, when there's no such thing even going on.

by * » Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:19 am

"Europe sees this and realizes it is the same old shit different dictator. But with a military budget the size of the rest of the world's pointed at them with no FDR to save them.." Nonsense. NATO (Europe+US) executed a joint hostle takeover of Yugoslavia and is now marching into Iraq. I haven't heard a word of protest from anyone, though there's not much they could do about it since NATO is not an elected official......

by **Qutb** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:57 am

"You threw in 'Nazi Master Race' program, when there's no such thing even going on." Hmm, New Orleans? Or the deliberate starving of the Third World? The eugenics agenda of parts of the environmental and Peak Oil movements? The whole "population reduction" thing? I don't know how prevalent those ideas are among the elite, but they are there. How much it's about "race" and how much about color-blind Social Darwinism is unclear though, but I'm sure there is a "racial" component. These "master race" ideas were common in US and British elite circles before WWII, and they didn't just disappear. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **thumper** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:12 pm

[[Hmm, New Orleans? Or the deliberate starving of the Third World? The eugenics agenda of parts of the environmental and Peak Oil movements? The whole "population reduction" thing? I don't know how prevalent those ideas are among the elite, but they are there. How much it's about "race" and how much about color-blind Social Darwinism is unclear though, but I'm sure there is a "racial" component.]]Well let's not forget population reduction is happening in white countries as well (birth control, feminism). I've read that the Illuminati is basically an Aryan/Khazar type clique (not sure if that's true), although they certainly have no loyalty towards their own people. Case in point, the Zionist promulgated holocaust, or state sponsored Islamicization of Western Europe, or the media blackout about the Boer genocide happening in South Africa. They hate us all. Myron Fagan said their goal is for the rest of humanity to be a nationless, mongrelized, and easily molded population (globalization) ripe for domination. It seems that's right on track.

I think PNAC is a bit of a smokescreen...

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Allies = BFEE

New World Order manifesto

The Nazis planned to regroup and continue...in the US.

re: nazi master race

Washington DC is the new Berlin as of 1945.

talk about a misnomer

Re: Washington DC is the new Berlin as of 1945.

Re: talk about a misnomer

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